My Response to 48 Hours

Last Friday, the CBS News Magazine 48 Hours broadcast a story about Everquest as part of a show about addiction. This broadcast showed such a serious lack of journalistic integrity and left so many questions unanswered that I feel compelled to respond. Clearly, in this case true journalism was set aside, and CBS instead came up with what they thought was a juicy premise and then manufactured the facts to fit, purposefully ignoring the multitude of other facts that repudiated their predetermined storyline. In doing so, they insulted and belittled the hundreds of thousands of us who play and enjoy online games and have no difficulty integrating our hobby into our regular daily lives. (I’m including the DAoC site in this editorial because there is no doubt that had they focused on that game, their premise would have remained the same). The title of their show was “Addiction”, so let me start with the word itself. All too often our media adopts a viable scientific or medical term and warps it far beyond its original meaning to the point where the term loses all actual meaning. Addiction is one of those terms. I am sorry, but Everquest is not addictive. Neither is eating, working, having sex, or any of the myriad other activities our press loves to call addictive. To call Everquest addictive is an insult to the many people out there who are struggling to overcome the many serious and valid debilitating addictions in our world. An addictive substance is something you need, not want, and no matter how you look at it, nobody needs to play Everquest. Playing Everquest is definitely a lot of fun, and some may prefer playing it to doing any of the other activities life may offer, even to the point of ignoring things society deems important. This is not an addiction, but rather a lack of self control. A man sweating with the anguish of withdrawal from his normal dose of heroin is addicted and in need to help to kick his habit. His body needs that heroin. A man who plays Everquest to the point where he ignores his family, job and life is simply out of control. He may want to keep playing the game, but he does not need it. There is a difference. CBS’s premise that this is some sort of evil game that sucks the mind out of its players and causes them to lose control of their lives is simply ridiculous. If someone loses control of his life, it is likely that he would have found some other way to do it even if he did not find Everquest. It makes for a juicy headline, but really is tabloid journalism at its worst. Even more tabloid journalism was the presentation itself. Is there any doubt that 48 Hours interviewed hundreds of people and kept rejecting person after person for being too normal or because the game did not have any negative impact on their lives before picking their eventual subjects? Even the player they eventually did decide to film hardly supported their premise, although they used every trick in their book to make it seem that he did. It’s obvious they had no intention of presenting an unbiased article and routinely rejected anything that contradicted the story they wanted to make. They instead wanted to shock the viewer and make him believe that there are hundreds of thousands of mentally unstable gaming addicts playing this online video game who are probably just steps away from killing themselves and who knows how many others. Obviously the CBS motto is to never let the facts get in the way of a good story. The player they finally chose to interview was a doctor who played Everquest about 20 hours a week. He seemed to be a fairly normal person with a normal family life. They obviously chose him because his wife complained that she wished that he spent less time playing Everquest and more time with his family. The implication was clear that this was an otherwise good and normal man hopelessly corrupted by this evil game. Funny, but I saw something else. Here is a man who manages to hold down a high pressure job, is a loving husband, properly raises his children and provides for his family. Yet CBS wants to excoriate him for stealing 20 hours a week of private time for himself, because he does it playing a video game and, quite frankly, they think that’s weird. They showed him sitting there fighting something in the game and then zoomed in to the reporter so that she could arch her eyebrows and look properly horrified that anyone would be silly enough to waste his time on something like that. “Look”, she said, “he even has trouble looking away from the screen when I’m talking to him”. Oh if only he hadn’t met this evil game, he would surely be the perfect husband and father. Let me add something up here. CBS sports is a very profitable part of their network. Watching two Sunday NFL games takes a good 7 hours. A single college game on Saturday is another 3 ½ hours and there are games on all day long. Add in a couple baseball, basketball or hockey games during the week and you can easily add up to 20 hours watching sports on TV for just your average sports fan. A dedicated sports fan would of course go much higher than that. I’m guessing if that was his hobby, 48 Hours would have never come knocking at his door. “Man ignores family to watch football” does not make as tantalizing a headline as “Man becomes addicted to evil video game”. I don’t see CBS urging their sports division to put a warning label at the bottom of every football game warning that watching sports can be addictive and cause you to spend time away from your family. His wife should be glad he is not going out to the bars every night with his friends like many other men and women and that he instead found a way to blow off steam that keeps him at home and available when she needs him and that comes at a relatively small cost. She was never asked, but would any of us be surprised to find out that the wife who is complaining so much about her husband’s game playing spends far more than 20 hours a week watching television or shopping. I would think just about anyone spends at least 20 hours a week on personal projects and hobbies. Playing golf, sports, television, reading, and shopping are a few obvious examples of activities people spend long hours at, but there are plenty of others. Of course that wouldn’t fit into CBS’s concept for the show, so those facts simply got ignored. Besides, they want to make him look weird, not normal, and pointing that out would simply remind people that this isn’t really all that odd after all. He’s playing a video game, so there must be something wrong with him. This is after all a tabloid and not a real news show. 48 Hours also interviewed Ben Stein about his son’s Everquest playing. I guess this was to show that even pseudo-celebrities like him are not immune to this scourge. (If they wanted to interview a celebrity, why not a real one who actually plays Everquest like Curt Schilling? – Oh yeah, Curt would have told them they were full of it and blown a hole in their whole false and demeaning premise). Am I the only one struck by Mr. Stein’s method of stopping his son from playing EQ? He sent him off to a boarding school where, according to Mr. Stein, they did not allow games like that to be played. After a stint of time away from Everquest, and not coincidentally away from his parents, he was suddenly cured. (and I’m glad we were spared the manufactured scenes of his son lying in bed at the boarding house, body shaking and sweating profusely, and mewing pitifully about “just one more orc, please just one more”). Well, Ben, why didn’t you just not allow those games at your house? If your son is playing video games to what you consider an excess, maybe you should just put your foot down and pull the plug on his computer. If he instead spent his time downloading online porn, would you have let him do that for a while until you finally threw up your hands and sent him off to a porn-free school somewhere? Who is the problem here? The teenager who plays a game to excess, or for that matter does anything to excess, or the parent who allows it? Sorry Ben, but don’t blame the manufacturer of a game for your bad parenting. Finally, there is poor Mrs. Woolley. It must be terrible to lose a son, and we all feel sympathy for her. But eventually she is going to have to face up to the fact that Everquest did not have anything to do with it. Shawn was a troubled and mentally disturbed child and had been so for all of his life. Something was bound to set him off eventually. Maybe it was indeed something that happened to him in the game. Everquest is after all populated with real people, and the inability to interact with people seemed to be at the root of his mental illness. It really could have been just about anything that brought about his suicide. The unfortunate fact in life is that sometimes bad things happen and there’s not much we can do about it. Blaming Everquest for her son’s death probably makes Mrs. Woolley feel better and gives her an outlet for her grief, and you know what? I really have no problem with that. Let her deal with her grief in whatever manner she wishes. What is wrong is for a news outlet like CBS to exploit her grief for the sake of their ratings. And make no mistake that this is pure exploitation on their part. “Satanic Video game convinces man to commit suicide” was just too good a headline for them to resist. The tabloid journalists who make up the 48 Hours staff must have truly started salivating when they thought that one up. So they hauled their cameras into that poor woman’s living room and helped feed her delusion so that they could broadcast it to the rest of the world and sell a lot of commercials. Frankly, this part makes me sicker than any other part of their story. Manufacturing facts to make up a false story you hope will bring big ratings makes you a poor journalist, but exploiting a mother’s suffering and grief from the death of her son for those ratings makes you a poor human being. The journalists who made their trek to the Woolley residence to get their juicy video game murder story were simply parasites feeding on that poor woman’s grief and delusions. I’d like to think that Susan Spencer, the journalist who did this story, has a little more trouble sleeping a night because of her actions, but unfortunately I doubt it bothers her in the least. It is sad to see that the network of the great Walter Cronkite has sunk to such depths. I had always thought journalism was about facts first and story second. Yet CBS managed to do an entire story on the supposedly addictive and evil nature of this game without displaying a single fact to prove it and by ignoring the many facts that disprove it. In the end they made fun of something they know nothing about, exploited something that should be pitied instead, and succeeded in nothing more than insulting the hundreds of thousands of people who consider playing Everquest and other video games a normal, healthy and enjoyable part of their lives. For what it’s worth, they also lost my respect and viewer ship. If you wish to contact CBS about this show, here is the contact information: 48 Hours 524 West 57th St. New York, NY 10019 E-MAIL: 48hours@cbsnews.com. PHONE: (212) 975-3247
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And the word for today is...
# Oct 22 2002 at 9:02 AM Rating: Default
And the word for today is bias. I just finished reading most of the posts and main article here and I would have to say CBS is about as full blown as most religion. Now I have nothing agianst religions( except for the converting ones) I was Christian in my youth and I accept the fact that there is a possibility that every religion is true in one way or another it just seems improbable to me. Anyway, I just wanted to say that I played Everquest for over 2 and half years, wonderful game might I add, and I would have to say if there is an addition it would have to be the feeling of fun and excitment I get when I played it. I am currently playing DAOC because I have a negative cash flow income towards buying any new EQ expansions after the one with the new tiger race. But when I did play EQ, and DAOC for this matter it was and still is extremely fun. So I support the fact that there is no addiction from EQ or any MMORG for that matter, except for fun. Yes, that is the same fun that everyone finds in something one way or another in this world. Thanks for taking time to read this. I am an MMORG player and I love it!
RE: And the word for today is...
# Oct 22 2002 at 9:04 AM Rating: Default
Opps spelled addiction wrong, instead I put addition, it's meant to be addiction. sorry for the typo
An even reply ot all parties
# Oct 22 2002 at 8:45 AM Rating: Default
I sent this to all three concerned parties:

To whom it may concern at CBS News, Allakhazam.com and Sony Online Entertainment,

Unfortunately, the recent story about "addiction" on 48 Hours was upside-down wrong in many ways, but almost none of them are the ways that were pointed out in the heated reply on Allakhazam.com:

https://everquest.allakhazam.com/news/sdetail1150.html?story=1150

Since I'm sure 48 Hours gets a lot of heated replies to their stories, I just wanted to make sure that you understood which parts of your story were wrong regardless of this sort of backlash:

1.

Allakhazam claimed a definition for addiction which would be more appropriately labeled "physical addiction".

Psychological addiction is a much more difficult matter, and while it is possible to say that the social elements of EverQuest, combined with the numbers game of gaining experience, items and the perception of "power" can be addictive, activities are simply not acknowledged as addictive by the psychological community. Running produces endorphins which are known to be habit-forming, and thus running can be classified as psychologically addictive. EverQuest has no such chemical component.

That aside, 48 Hours usage is not unusual, and certainly the more colloquial and less technical definition of addiction is understandable, had it been framed with at least some disclaimer as to the differences between types of addiction.

2.

Teens kill themselves. It happens. While I found Allakhazam's coverage on this topic to be the most reasonable portion of the response, it is important to understand the scope of 48 Hours' lack of research on this topic. Every popular fantasy game in the last 30 years has been accused of directly promoting suicide. In the case of Dungeons and Dragons, the Centers for Disease Control even went so far as to perform a study of the correlation. Their findings? While there was no evidence of ANY suicide ever being linked to such games rather than to overwhelming external influence or a marked history of suicidal tendencies, they did point out that the simplest form of prevention for teen suicide is social interaction, and that these games provide a venue for just that.

3.

Rampant speculation about the selection process for interviewees in Allakhazam's reply are unwarranted, however it would have added some credibility to the story if you had interviewed people who play the game socially. I've certainly found that playing EverQuest has allowed me to stay in touch with friends who are out of state, and I find it hard to believe that 48 Hours would have needed to do very much leg-work to find other players like me.

Hopefully, future stories about video games and suicide can be more even-handed, and better researched. I will look forward to your future reports.

RE: My Response to 48 Hours
# Oct 22 2002 at 8:43 AM Rating: Default
You don't think online gaming is addictive? I was seperated from my wife and almost got divorced over a text based MUD years ago. Something is a problem when it affects your RL in a manner like this. I almost did the same thing again with EQ. Now I hardly play at all.

The man who played "20 hours a week" has to be playing way more than that. That's just what he admits to. Did you see the time lapse thing? I'd guess it's more like 80 hours a week. Did you see his kids hanging on him while he played the game ignoring them? Soon they'll stop interacting with him at all and he will never get those years back when they are gone.

Sorry to play devil's advocate here but I'm just stating my opinion. A couple of hours a week is fine but you can barely do anything in EQ in that amount of time. However I don't think Sony should be held responsible either. People just have to regulate their playtime. Unfortunately many people can't do that.
Where is the rest of the BLAME!
# Oct 22 2002 at 8:25 AM Rating: Default
Where is the blame for the gun manufacturer, who made such an evil device that could be used by someone to take thier own life? What about the company who produced the bullet which actually caused the damage when this poor unfortunate pulled the trigger? Isn't it their fault for making the devices which caused the death? I think not. Its just as rediculous to blame a "game", any game. What about placing some blame on the mother herself, whom I do feel very badly for, but she admits watching her son "spiral down" and what actions did she take to prevent, or stop this? Anyone who commits suicide has some serious issues occuring in thier life, and many things can add to this. If a man or woman loose thier "significant other", and take thier own life, do you blame or arrest the significant other because they caused this person to commit suicide? This is journalism at its worst, ranked right alongside of "Globe", "National Enquirer" and other such tabloids which help to degrade our society today.
My Thoughts
# Oct 22 2002 at 8:11 AM Rating: Excellent
I purposely did not watch the show when it originally aired because I knew what to expect from it. I did finally watch a recording of the segment and was not surprised by their spin doctoring. I was, however, disturbed enough to write a response to CBS which I have posted here.
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Dear Sir or Madame:

I had the distinct displeasure of recently seeing a recording of the "virtual Addiction" episode of your program. I am shocked and apalled at the light in which you have managed to cast a harmless hobby shared by thousands of people throughout the world. With a single episode of your trash journalism you managed to insult an entire segment of society. I am a normal, 28 year old software engineer, a veteran of military service, and I have a wife and child. I play Everquest as an outlet for relaxation because I enjoy it. Yet you have equated me and thousands like me with junkies and alcoholics. Everquest is not an addiction, it is a GAME.
You further went on to bring up the tragic suicide of Shawn Woolley. This was an outrageous abuse of your journalistic powers. You exploited a mother's grief to emphasize a point you didn't support with any facts. While Shawn's death was a tragedy, you could just as easily blame it on any number of other factors including the fact that he was a troubled and disturbed young man long before he ever began playing Everquest. You can no more blame a GAME for his suicide than you can blame FORD for a drunk driving death. There is no logic in such accusations, they merely serve to disguise the far more pressing issue in our society of AVOIDING RESPONSIBILITY. No one wants to be held responsible for their own actions, and you and the rest of the American news media are fostering that attitude through sensational, tabloid reporting like this piece.
As to the one VALID argument that can be made from your story, that some Everquest players neglect other responsibilities in favor of playing the game, let's consider that for a moment. The average american (according to A.C. Nielsen Co) spends at least 4 hours a day watching television. That's 28 hours per week, yet you make it seem as if 20 hours a week is a horrible number. Perhaps TV is an addiction? Maybe someone should be screaming of the dangers of watching television and how it can impact our health and well-being.. I guarantee you that more than one person who watches television has committed suicide, probably more on the order of 99% or more of american teens and young adults who commit suicide watch television. The point is that watching the sort of tripe that the media and television networks put on the air is at least as time consuming as playing Everquest and is at least as detrimental to social lives. After all, Everquest is a social game, one which encourages and even requires interaction with other human beings through an electronic format. Watching TV is a mindless, non-interactive activity, especially when it involves the dribble that you and the american media has decided is news worthy.
Quite frankly I knew there was a reason why I do not read newspapers and do not typically watch television news. Our media has NO JOURNALISTIC INTEGRITY remaining. I do not know where you lost the path, but the news media no longer promotes the spread of fact, it has become a business of entertainment, misinformation, and sensationalism. The time spent watching your program would be better spent watching infomercials, at least there they make no pretenses about their intentions. It is attitudes and programs like yours that make me want to be ashamed to be called an american. I hope you will be pleased to know that your feeble attempts at some form of journalism will be watched by less family now, as I have blocked your network from my television at home, and will be encouraging my friends and family to do the same.

Sincerely,
RE: My Thoughts
# Oct 22 2002 at 10:46 AM Rating: Decent
I completely agree with "moonwolf the Magnificent".

But the American people are smarter than anyone gives them credit for, most people I know always watch the news with a filter on to separate the garbage from the facts. Its no suprise to anyone that the media uses sensationalism to get ratings. Most of the people who would believe something like this completely are too stupid to care.

Just another biased story full of crap to make the story look exciting. The truth is that the real problem is avoiding responsibility as others have said. Lack of discipline. Which a percentage of EverQuest players will have, just as in any other group, even groups known for their discipline such as the US Army will have their slackers.

The only people scared by this show will be nieve parents of children who play everquest occasionally. Which I would assume would be the target audience for this television show.

... Anyway, they do think we're weirdos... isn't it cool?! >:)

/rude CBS

Edited, Tue Oct 22 11:29:44 2002
RE: My Thoughts
# Oct 22 2002 at 8:34 AM Rating: Decent
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Thyramon,

I could not have put it better myself. Great letter!
New Mobs
# Oct 22 2002 at 7:55 AM Rating: Good
Maybe we should create new mobs like, "a goblin reporter" or "a gnoll anchorman" and destroy them with our evil satanic weapons. We all may become addicted to fighting them.

P.S. Who cares what they think. I didn't start playing EQ for them, and I won't quit for them. If they don't like it, don't buy it.
Voice yourself
# Oct 22 2002 at 7:32 AM Rating: Good
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Unfortunately, 48 hours is free to express any point of view on the subject that they see fit. Freedom of the Press, afterall. However, in such a consumer economy, public opinion is a very weighty force. I encourage you all to follow Allkhazam's advice and either send a letter or just tap out a quick e-mail to CBS expressing your opinion of the show. (And please, don't make our community look stupid :).
To take it a step further, a quick letter to their sponsors can be even more effective. Most companies don't want their product associated with a show at which people are angry. Too much rambling for an /ooc.

--Roz

(Sorry, had a dangling participle had to edit out)

Edited, Tue Oct 22 08:15:47 2002
oops
# Oct 22 2002 at 7:23 AM Rating: Good
I was just curious as to what part of this game is satanic, AND what is so wrong with people interacting in a semi controlled interactive chat room where there are rules to abide by. Parents should rejoice that there is now a form of media out there where there children can learn vocabulary and typing skills, o yea, and interpersonal communication skills. Now they wont have to waste their precious time teaching them all those things. I am still trying to figure out what is satanic about this game. The game gods don't even resemble the traditional satanic look.

Stompz Drag 57th Monky
Naturio Skystalker 57th Treehugger
Muryad Meister 56th Outrider

Tunare Server
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Satanic?
# Oct 22 2002 at 7:19 AM Rating: Default
Fuck 48 hours in the BH
# Oct 22 2002 at 6:28 AM Rating: Default
I bet if you look on one of those ******** reporters computer you will find some form of online game. Yahoo or Pogo or something. **** 48 Hours. **** them in their stupid asses. They're ******* clown shoes.
age of players
# Oct 22 2002 at 6:26 AM Rating: Excellent
not just teens play EQ, i am 57..run for your lives the old dudes are here..i play because i can not stand the mindless stuff on tv,hate bars AND most sports..but am i evil to like the game ...nope... just like it lev 31 barb shammie see you in EQ good hunting
Show was ridiculous
# Oct 22 2002 at 6:18 AM Rating: Good
I work in mental health field and most families blame everything under the sun rather than themselves. The fact of the matter is that living with some with a mental illness is nigh as hard as having one. After a certain point they give up and expect social agencies like the one I work for to pick up the pieces. The agencies in turn are underfunded and understaffed so it is a rather grim cycle. Our society does not place mental health on par with physical health at this time. Most people with involved families get help, medication and some semblance of recovery. This mother cries foul now but could she have done more?

I think so. If she was so concerned why didn't she get him help before she knew their was a problem. Help is out there but you have to ask for it. It can't find you as we are not mind readers nor do we have clairvoyant powers that locate those with the issues. Anger is part of the grief cycle. She may be doing this to grieve but I suspect she also seeks compensation.

Games could have been very beneficial to this young man. A place where the stigma of mental illness could not follow. I take metally ill people around and they get different treatment. if you don't think go volunteer for a day in a mental health center. The game might has provided him for a reason to hang on and a diversion from his emotional problems. It was somethign he enjoyed doing why not respect that.

The fact of the matter is that a game in itself cannot kill anyone. There were underlying problems. The same is true for those that killed themselves with AD&D. The game was not the issue. The troubled soul was the issue.

Gamers understand something that society does not about this genre of game that they are fantasy. Maybe a small percentage of gamers do not but they are miniscule. You cannot condemn the whole lot for the actions of the few.

Are cars at fault for the drunk driving hit and runs? No, they are not! This line of thought is utterly ridiculous. It is a sad testament to the fall of responsibility in our society. It is easier to blame external things than to admit that one could have more or. I think that the terrors of Al-Qaeda hold less dangers to our society as a whole than accepting his kind of thinking and the acceptance of lack of resposbility. Blaming does not fix problems it simply hides them. This kind of thinking perpetuates in lawsuits and we have the lawyers to thank for this bit of decay. In thier efforts to wring forth every last dollar and exonerate their clients they have compromised the very fabric of or society.
Thank you
# Oct 22 2002 at 6:15 AM Rating: Default
Thank you for writing a calm, intelligent response to such an obvious case of sensationalism. American journalism long ago degraded into a farce, but from the clips I've watched of this so far, it's a new low.

48 hours is known, however, for this type of thing. It's nothing new that the program will select a burgeoning public fear, and exploit it to the point of absurdity.

While it can be argued that Everquest is a mental addiction (a good friend of mine nearly failed out of college playing it), just like anything, it takes responsibility and self control. I've also seen people addicted to alcohol, sports, other hobbies, and any number of other things. Golf, in particular, comes to mind.

This is just an extension of media hyping of violence in video games. The more impressionable media sheep who go along with everything put forth by these organizations as fact will jump right on this bandwagon as well. Never mind it has the intergrity and factual base of the Weekly World News.

Thanks for the letter :)


The Media
# Oct 22 2002 at 6:01 AM Rating: Excellent
It makes me sad to see how much the media is spiral into a pit of half truths, blad face lies and distortion of the little true the publish.

What annoys me more is that after seeing this you probably see a organisation dedicated the the destruction of the *evils* of the online community. After all whats to stop the media just placing the blame on Everquest. If this has bumped there ratings up the will quickly find another respectable online community (e.g. online chatting) and claim that this form of communication is the main factor in (another example) destroying education at the fundemental level by diverting hte attention of students from the study.

Bottom line is, if slander and misinformation can cause ratings of shows to sky rocket, why not let it because that means more money for are share holders.

The media giants are pushed by two factors:
1 = Increase the ratings
2 = Increase the profit margin

By people coming up in arms against this farcicle program you cause a public intrest. Hey look a lot of people and against this, maybe we should follow it up with another inflamtery report. But hey if that does not go down well we can always make up a story about the journalists creditability, publish a public apology, then write a story about hoow a current issue has caused the report to start this crusade. More story, more public intrest.

Its in human nature to find something that is different from what you do and argue about it saying thats the wrong way to go about your life. Can anyone truely say there way is the right way, or diffine normality.

To make a quote
"Define normal"
"ah, well see, normal is what everyone else is and you are not!"

We will continue to see topics about what is causing people to top them selfs cause it sells. If the intrest was not there it would not get published in the first place!
I blame them all...
# Oct 22 2002 at 5:54 AM Rating: Good
I blame myself for being chunky after 3 years of online gaming.

I blame windys for there tasty spicy chicken sandwhiches.
I blame aol because they kept giving me free months of service because i wanted to cancel my account.
I blame pepsico for there tasty sodas.
I blame free **** for corpaltunnel.
and most of all i blame that chick who i started playing online games to avoid!!!

Who i will never blame for any of this is the makers of the games that "I choose to play" just because im 30 lbs over weight, dont have a girlfriend, as well as spend 20-40 hours a week on a computer. its all my choice.

GTH 48 hrs. I hardly ever watch news because its all stupid mixed up facts to get ratings. BBC theres a news station that wont do a story on EQ or any other game. Also carrys more american news than the AMERICAN news stations.

muh rant is done. ty.

RE: I blame them all...
# Oct 22 2002 at 6:00 AM Rating: Default
I posted the article below this- yeah, damn right BBC RULES! REAL NEWS!
MEDIA IN GENERAL
# Oct 22 2002 at 5:46 AM Rating: Good
I'm surprised at how much anyone paid attention to this show. American Media=crap. Go travel overseas a little and you'll see events in another country's newspapers that would not have made one of the little scrolling blurbs on the bottom of CNN. 500 people could die in a political uprising in Iran and you'd be oblivious to it. Get used to the fact that our media is incredibly biased and either stop paying attention or stop ********* Don't give them the satisfaction of knowing that they got under your skin.
RE: MEDIA IN GENERAL
# Oct 22 2002 at 6:01 AM Rating: Default
Golden retriever eats own ***** > 294091840221 killed in nuclear strike on unknown african country
I laughed
# Oct 22 2002 at 5:10 AM Rating: Default
at the stupid CBS *****
My mail to 48hrs FYI
# Oct 22 2002 at 4:03 AM Rating: Good
Greetings.

I have had the pleasure of watching the "virtual Addiction" episode of 48hrs. I feel compelled to comment.

Is EQ addictive? Sure it is. Anything you fully emerge yourself in is addicive to some degree. Is EQ worse then most things? Hard to say. On the bad side it will steal your time if your Real life is not addictive enough. Its will make you less interested in your Real life if you have great problems that you are not ready to, willing to, or unable to face up to. On the good side you gain great firends of wich many become Real Life firends because people meet out of the game. Its a global community and as such it promotes a global understanding and sense of equallity as you get to be friends with people from neigh on everpart of the world that has a uplink. You will have a safe, controlable place to "slip away" that does not promote criminal behavior or exposure to bad enviroments of Real life.

So for most people its a fun game that is as addictive fun things can be. For some people its a affliction they have for a limitied time as the game becomes borring after some time when the mysteries of the world has been solved. And for a few its a pathway to oblivion simply because they dont have the mental strentgh to realize that it is, after all, only a game.

Those poor induviduals are more in danger then most others because firends will stop visiting someone who is always online, the phonesbills will never get you kicked you (most have fixed rates), and many people fail to realize that all addictions are bad and that when it happens, it fall to the friends and relatives to pull that person back into shape.

EQ is a fun game that will outlive it self to the players overtime. It is the greatest and most complex of Morps to this day, but for all its mystery it is easily overcome and when you have seen the coners of the world it becomes a rather dull game. Many Morps are over the horizon like Starwars Galaxies, Warcraft, or the newly released Earth and beyond. Some will become great games and some will fall against the test of time.

The bottomline is: When you offer intertainment people will come. We love to be intertained its as simple as tht. Everyone knows it. CBS is a professional media company and you more then most people know what we consider intertainment. You know what sells and what does not. Its your job to make shows that bring people back to the screen at cirtain times of the day again and again because rateings and firm baseaudiance means income. VI knows it too.

I lack objectivity in the episode and cant help wonder why the reporter choose to focus so onesidedly on the gamers. Is it because had she not, the episode would have been a Informertial for EQ and not a "good show"?

Kind regards

CBS? : Clearly Bull Sh*t
# Oct 22 2002 at 4:01 AM Rating: Excellent
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Hello all - 33 year old Senior Network Administrator, Homeowner, Father of 3, proud companion to a loving wife and guildleader here... stress free life (hehe)

The show amazed me in its complete lack of.... well... journalism. I won't compound the statements here, but agree with them all. I have been a gamer for more years than I can count, starting on Pong and running through Commadore 64 to the present. Gaming is a hobby for me, although I still enjoy camping, hiking, fishing, and the company of my family.

I have to agree with the Police Officer who posted below - well spoken. Everyone has stress in their life and it is both healthy and suggested to perform activities that reduce this to improve both your physical and mental health. EQ is my vent, and a welcome addition to my ******* of stress relief.

I greatly enjoy the time I spend online; and, it doesn't matter if its EQ, UT3, or Counterstrike - recreation is just that. Find what you enjoy, and utilize it as a tool and an expression of yourself. Carve a statue, run a marathon, write a novel, level a character to 65 :)

It saddens me to see a witch hunt forming on EQ as it did on AD&D in the 80's. All I can say is: Welcome to the world of avatars - where friends are many; race, religious beliefs, your income, how many square feet your house is, and what the neighbors think about your dog barking has absolutely no grounds for concern. The internet and online gaming is just as much a recreation as the time we spend "quietly" reading, walking, watching TV, working out, jogging whatever. I say enjoy Planet Earth and the world of Norrath - smile :)

Enjoy the times with friends and family, and raid ToV.... hmm.... how great is that? How about: "Eat drink and be merry, for tomorrow you may be in Vex Thall" (lol)

Game my friends, and enjoy what you can in life.
My email to CBS
# Oct 22 2002 at 3:45 AM Rating: Excellent
First I would like to thank Allakhazam for a very well written letter that he/she shared with us and CBS. Hopefully they will read that letter and maybe learn something from it.

So after reading that letter I felt inspired to write to CBS myself. I'm not a very gifted writter, but here is what I sent to them:

Once again I find myself disappointed with the media's attempt to turn a innocent video game into the root cause as to why parents are unable to raise there children correctly in today's society. Try doing a story on the inability of parents to raise a child with proper beliefs and moral foundation.

Also your choice in a reporter to do this piece was horrible. Her lack of understanding for the topic and complete inability to provide fair and balanced reporting is a disgrace to the profession. Maybe you have heard of this phrase "Your job is to report the news, not make it". So with humble respect for the journalistic masters of the past. I ask 48 hours to once again become a worthy news outlet and do not revert to tabloid journalism.

Also note, that this letter is being sent, not from a teenager, but a very successful network engineer for a large bank. In no way has my playing experiences hindered my contribution to society. If anything it has allowed me to become a better person, by giving me an avenue to release some stress from my job and personal life.

Everquest has also allow me an outlet to explore new world of adventure that could only be found through reading and a creative mind.

Would you rather have me sitting a bar or watching the mindless programming provided by network TV?


RE: My email to CBS
# Oct 22 2002 at 8:06 AM Rating: Default
actually, CBS WOULD rather you watch their programming on TV
just a thot
# Oct 22 2002 at 3:23 AM Rating: Decent
isnt cbs a big company, with lots of high priced lawyers?

and isnt sony also a company with lots of high priced lawyers?

well i think they should do battle. one massive lawsuit, live on pay per view, for our entertainment.

cmon sony, stick up for your loyal customers, an make cbs give us a fair shake. and cbs, dont you want to uphold your fine journalistic principles in a court of law?

and was ben stein really on the show? man that boy will do anything for money. i heard he staged a phoney show that made him look smart.

many ppl feel they have slandered the image of an eq player/addict. the sad thing is, without legal correction 48 hours will say, wow was really popular, look at all the letters we got, and almost 400 posts on alakazam etc etc... they will not care if these are negative, because as teh old sayin goes , the only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about.
One Word,....
# Oct 22 2002 at 2:59 AM Rating: Default
Fascism
Missed the Show?
# Oct 22 2002 at 2:41 AM Rating: Decent
Not sure if this has been posted already, since I didn't read all the replies, But you can watch the CBS show at this link:

http://www.unknowndomains.com/Movies/CBS.wmv

Edited, Tue Oct 22 03:23:04 2002
RE: Missed the Show?
# Oct 22 2002 at 8:43 AM Rating: Default
Did you notice that when his wife was saying she wished he would be a father to their kids, he was playing with a ball with them? If CBS wanted to they could have edited it better to llok like he was addicted, they could have shown him on the computer.
RE: Missed the Show?
# Oct 22 2002 at 7:53 AM Rating: Default
lol, watch that clip with NO sound. hell just watching that clip makes me wanna play EQ! they captured some really good scenes! not tomention the dude is 2boxin like a champ. i just had to laugh at the time lapse portion, seeing his house change around him as if he was the central hub.

lol that reporter just dosnt have a clue, as do alot of ppl who are totaly "addictted" to real life scenerios. now if ppl didnt close their mind to everything they feel is different or weird maybe EQ would be common place for All.
down with CBS and biasd reporters!~, long live EQ!~ and things WE want to do with our time!

edited to add.
maybe someone should do a show on "reporters and their addiction to the Story"
im willing to bet she wakes up everyday thinking, man i gotta get more content! where can i get more content! or "hmm who or what can i shamelesly splatter all over worldwide tv to make a dollar" hahha or on the ppl addicted to work, work aholics who do and think of nuthing but money and their job.
hell anything if you really wanna put a point on it everything is addicting if You let it take over your life.


Edited, Tue Oct 22 08:49:14 2002
RE: Missed the Show?
# Oct 22 2002 at 3:30 AM Rating: Default
great link

it nice to see a site that is not cheap w bandwidth. got 70ka second from movie, and like 150 total from a couple of other things on there.
kudos to whoever is runnin it.
EQ is an Addiction! but I am totally surprised how much 48 h
# Oct 22 2002 at 1:57 AM Rating: Decent
EQ is an Addiction! but I am totally surprised how much 48 hours missed the point!!
The one Addiction I see the most the need social interation. This is the same addiction that young teens have over the phone, needing to tell others about everything under the sun, just EQ provides a different media to fill this social desire we crave.
For many of you, you have made friends on line that you can only meet on line, and when you are not hanging on line you become depressed since you are not socially interacting with friends.

I have had employees have their job performan drop, because they are playing on line while at work solving social problems in their guild and such.
I have seen people blow off or totally forget social engagement because they had to hang with their friends to accomplish something that couldn't wait online.
I begin to quiver when I here someone is starting a guild, because I know the time required for a high mantence guild. But running the guild for that person is FUN because they are either in a position of power or they enjoy the thanks they get from others.
Remember most addictions have withdrawels and drepression from lack of social interation is everquests! (At least the addictions I have seen)
Addictions
# Oct 22 2002 at 1:03 AM Rating: Default
First off I wanted to say that I agree with Alla and his editorial here. Nice write up.

I did want to mention though, primarily in response to the debate here in the threads, that there are various forms of addiction.

The first is physical addiction. That is the addiction that Heroin or Crack addicts have to deal with. Their body needs the substance and it goes through withdrawals when it does not have it.

The second type is mental addiction. For example drug education courses often teach that Marijuana is mentally, and not physically addicting. Your body does not need it and you will not go through withdrawals from not having it. Regular weed smokers will often refer to needing it though. In actuality they don't need it. They just want it because they want to once again experience the good times tha they have had on it.

So when we talk about MMORPG's it is fair to say that they are addicting. It's not a physical addiction but it is a form of addiction.

That having been said let's take a look at the alternative. You can take a person like myself. I have been a professional webmaster for nearly five years. I work at home and lead a normal social life going out to a bar or club typically twice a week.

I find myself with free time on most days. My friends all work normal jobs. They don't have as much free time as I have at my disposal.

So what can I do with the free time?

I could play basketball which I try to do a couple times a week for exercise. It's healthy and social in that you run in to the same players on the court oftentimes. Unfortunately your body can only take so much exercise. After an hour or two your tired and need to head home.

I could watch TV or catch a movie, usually by myself because everyone else is at school or work. It's an unsocial individual activity.

I could go to a pool hall or a pub, which I often wind up doing simply out of boredom. Rather than sit at home by myself I'd find myself in a bar room at 2 PM because I have nothing else to do.

Or I could sit at home and play an MMORPG. It's somewhat social. Although I may never meet(and really have no desire to) the people who I am playing with I would be lying if I said that you do not develop friendships with those who you play online with. Often to the point of us following one another from game to game or server to server.

Let's be honest here MMORPG's may not be the perfect way to pass your time. They are certainly many worse ways you could be spending it though. I'd have to say that in my case MMORPG's keep me from partying as much as I used to. That has to be beneficial to me in some way down the road.

Just my two cents.

J.C. Smith
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