My Response to 48 Hours

Last Friday, the CBS News Magazine 48 Hours broadcast a story about Everquest as part of a show about addiction. This broadcast showed such a serious lack of journalistic integrity and left so many questions unanswered that I feel compelled to respond. Clearly, in this case true journalism was set aside, and CBS instead came up with what they thought was a juicy premise and then manufactured the facts to fit, purposefully ignoring the multitude of other facts that repudiated their predetermined storyline. In doing so, they insulted and belittled the hundreds of thousands of us who play and enjoy online games and have no difficulty integrating our hobby into our regular daily lives. (I’m including the DAoC site in this editorial because there is no doubt that had they focused on that game, their premise would have remained the same). The title of their show was “Addiction”, so let me start with the word itself. All too often our media adopts a viable scientific or medical term and warps it far beyond its original meaning to the point where the term loses all actual meaning. Addiction is one of those terms. I am sorry, but Everquest is not addictive. Neither is eating, working, having sex, or any of the myriad other activities our press loves to call addictive. To call Everquest addictive is an insult to the many people out there who are struggling to overcome the many serious and valid debilitating addictions in our world. An addictive substance is something you need, not want, and no matter how you look at it, nobody needs to play Everquest. Playing Everquest is definitely a lot of fun, and some may prefer playing it to doing any of the other activities life may offer, even to the point of ignoring things society deems important. This is not an addiction, but rather a lack of self control. A man sweating with the anguish of withdrawal from his normal dose of heroin is addicted and in need to help to kick his habit. His body needs that heroin. A man who plays Everquest to the point where he ignores his family, job and life is simply out of control. He may want to keep playing the game, but he does not need it. There is a difference. CBS’s premise that this is some sort of evil game that sucks the mind out of its players and causes them to lose control of their lives is simply ridiculous. If someone loses control of his life, it is likely that he would have found some other way to do it even if he did not find Everquest. It makes for a juicy headline, but really is tabloid journalism at its worst. Even more tabloid journalism was the presentation itself. Is there any doubt that 48 Hours interviewed hundreds of people and kept rejecting person after person for being too normal or because the game did not have any negative impact on their lives before picking their eventual subjects? Even the player they eventually did decide to film hardly supported their premise, although they used every trick in their book to make it seem that he did. It’s obvious they had no intention of presenting an unbiased article and routinely rejected anything that contradicted the story they wanted to make. They instead wanted to shock the viewer and make him believe that there are hundreds of thousands of mentally unstable gaming addicts playing this online video game who are probably just steps away from killing themselves and who knows how many others. Obviously the CBS motto is to never let the facts get in the way of a good story. The player they finally chose to interview was a doctor who played Everquest about 20 hours a week. He seemed to be a fairly normal person with a normal family life. They obviously chose him because his wife complained that she wished that he spent less time playing Everquest and more time with his family. The implication was clear that this was an otherwise good and normal man hopelessly corrupted by this evil game. Funny, but I saw something else. Here is a man who manages to hold down a high pressure job, is a loving husband, properly raises his children and provides for his family. Yet CBS wants to excoriate him for stealing 20 hours a week of private time for himself, because he does it playing a video game and, quite frankly, they think that’s weird. They showed him sitting there fighting something in the game and then zoomed in to the reporter so that she could arch her eyebrows and look properly horrified that anyone would be silly enough to waste his time on something like that. “Look”, she said, “he even has trouble looking away from the screen when I’m talking to him”. Oh if only he hadn’t met this evil game, he would surely be the perfect husband and father. Let me add something up here. CBS sports is a very profitable part of their network. Watching two Sunday NFL games takes a good 7 hours. A single college game on Saturday is another 3 ½ hours and there are games on all day long. Add in a couple baseball, basketball or hockey games during the week and you can easily add up to 20 hours watching sports on TV for just your average sports fan. A dedicated sports fan would of course go much higher than that. I’m guessing if that was his hobby, 48 Hours would have never come knocking at his door. “Man ignores family to watch football” does not make as tantalizing a headline as “Man becomes addicted to evil video game”. I don’t see CBS urging their sports division to put a warning label at the bottom of every football game warning that watching sports can be addictive and cause you to spend time away from your family. His wife should be glad he is not going out to the bars every night with his friends like many other men and women and that he instead found a way to blow off steam that keeps him at home and available when she needs him and that comes at a relatively small cost. She was never asked, but would any of us be surprised to find out that the wife who is complaining so much about her husband’s game playing spends far more than 20 hours a week watching television or shopping. I would think just about anyone spends at least 20 hours a week on personal projects and hobbies. Playing golf, sports, television, reading, and shopping are a few obvious examples of activities people spend long hours at, but there are plenty of others. Of course that wouldn’t fit into CBS’s concept for the show, so those facts simply got ignored. Besides, they want to make him look weird, not normal, and pointing that out would simply remind people that this isn’t really all that odd after all. He’s playing a video game, so there must be something wrong with him. This is after all a tabloid and not a real news show. 48 Hours also interviewed Ben Stein about his son’s Everquest playing. I guess this was to show that even pseudo-celebrities like him are not immune to this scourge. (If they wanted to interview a celebrity, why not a real one who actually plays Everquest like Curt Schilling? – Oh yeah, Curt would have told them they were full of it and blown a hole in their whole false and demeaning premise). Am I the only one struck by Mr. Stein’s method of stopping his son from playing EQ? He sent him off to a boarding school where, according to Mr. Stein, they did not allow games like that to be played. After a stint of time away from Everquest, and not coincidentally away from his parents, he was suddenly cured. (and I’m glad we were spared the manufactured scenes of his son lying in bed at the boarding house, body shaking and sweating profusely, and mewing pitifully about “just one more orc, please just one more”). Well, Ben, why didn’t you just not allow those games at your house? If your son is playing video games to what you consider an excess, maybe you should just put your foot down and pull the plug on his computer. If he instead spent his time downloading online porn, would you have let him do that for a while until you finally threw up your hands and sent him off to a porn-free school somewhere? Who is the problem here? The teenager who plays a game to excess, or for that matter does anything to excess, or the parent who allows it? Sorry Ben, but don’t blame the manufacturer of a game for your bad parenting. Finally, there is poor Mrs. Woolley. It must be terrible to lose a son, and we all feel sympathy for her. But eventually she is going to have to face up to the fact that Everquest did not have anything to do with it. Shawn was a troubled and mentally disturbed child and had been so for all of his life. Something was bound to set him off eventually. Maybe it was indeed something that happened to him in the game. Everquest is after all populated with real people, and the inability to interact with people seemed to be at the root of his mental illness. It really could have been just about anything that brought about his suicide. The unfortunate fact in life is that sometimes bad things happen and there’s not much we can do about it. Blaming Everquest for her son’s death probably makes Mrs. Woolley feel better and gives her an outlet for her grief, and you know what? I really have no problem with that. Let her deal with her grief in whatever manner she wishes. What is wrong is for a news outlet like CBS to exploit her grief for the sake of their ratings. And make no mistake that this is pure exploitation on their part. “Satanic Video game convinces man to commit suicide” was just too good a headline for them to resist. The tabloid journalists who make up the 48 Hours staff must have truly started salivating when they thought that one up. So they hauled their cameras into that poor woman’s living room and helped feed her delusion so that they could broadcast it to the rest of the world and sell a lot of commercials. Frankly, this part makes me sicker than any other part of their story. Manufacturing facts to make up a false story you hope will bring big ratings makes you a poor journalist, but exploiting a mother’s suffering and grief from the death of her son for those ratings makes you a poor human being. The journalists who made their trek to the Woolley residence to get their juicy video game murder story were simply parasites feeding on that poor woman’s grief and delusions. I’d like to think that Susan Spencer, the journalist who did this story, has a little more trouble sleeping a night because of her actions, but unfortunately I doubt it bothers her in the least. It is sad to see that the network of the great Walter Cronkite has sunk to such depths. I had always thought journalism was about facts first and story second. Yet CBS managed to do an entire story on the supposedly addictive and evil nature of this game without displaying a single fact to prove it and by ignoring the many facts that disprove it. In the end they made fun of something they know nothing about, exploited something that should be pitied instead, and succeeded in nothing more than insulting the hundreds of thousands of people who consider playing Everquest and other video games a normal, healthy and enjoyable part of their lives. For what it’s worth, they also lost my respect and viewer ship. If you wish to contact CBS about this show, here is the contact information: 48 Hours 524 West 57th St. New York, NY 10019 E-MAIL: 48hours@cbsnews.com. PHONE: (212) 975-3247
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I am an addict
# Oct 21 2002 at 1:44 PM Rating: Default
Still has D&D books.
Reads fantasy and sci fi. (Thank you Robert Jordan)
Married
Two children.
Two dogs.
Full time job.
House payment.
Car payment.

Aye, I'm addicted. To life. If only RL had an AFK....=P


Rengrey
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RE: I am an addict
# Oct 21 2002 at 1:59 PM Rating: Decent
:) It does. It's called sleep
RE: I am an addict
# Oct 21 2002 at 2:35 PM Rating: Default
When was the last time you got 8 hours uninterrupted?
Hahaha
# Oct 21 2002 at 1:44 PM Rating: Decent
48hrs=Joke
media
# Oct 21 2002 at 1:44 PM Rating: Default
I would just Like to add that VI currently has over 1 million subscribers to EQ. I have a simple solution If $8 hours Cannot truely be fair in there journalism there is but 1 action Ban the Channel and make it know WOuld a respected buisness who wants to buy ad time want to know 1 million ppl won't watch that channel and further more I play 20 hours a week work a Upperscale job i socialize in Rl Go out feel the warmth of the sun and stay active all while finding time for EQ
Eq is addictive in one way u meet friends/rivals and ppl you love and never layed eye's on have fun SOCIALIZE.. and improve ur typing skills all in one place I love EQ it relaxes and soothes my anger there is always an orc pawn or snow bunny pulling my stress from my body like a syphon
in closing I say we group as a real EQ community and bann CBS it's advertizers and it's sponsors
Untill a retraction is made. on this Ludicris story is rangled to it's knees and sent to a newbie to Loot


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RE: media
# Oct 21 2002 at 2:09 PM Rating: Decent
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I can't... I'm addicted to Survivor. I have seen every single episode since the very first one. The polictics, the emotions, the challenges, immunity, druel............

CBS has done wonders for Society creating this wonderful medium of voyuerism. I even have to be begged by my wife not to gamble on the show and enter in every single Survivor Pool I can get in."

Not to mention all the gambling I have to do on CBS.sportline fantasy sports. I play at least 5 teams in every major sport, even golf.

I must be addicted to gambling I guess and I have noone to thank but CBS since they have made it so easy for me.

/sue CBS
Sent it to 'em
# Oct 21 2002 at 1:40 PM Rating: Default
Sent the link to this story to 48 Hours... They of all people should read this. I was busy at work and forgot about the show, so I am now just hearing about this. A bunch of crap...
addiction
# Oct 21 2002 at 1:37 PM Rating: Good
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While I completely agree with the message of Allakhazams editorial re CBS's portrayal of the game I do have a problem with his perception of addiction. As one who has worked in the mental health field (Masters of Social Work) I use the following definition. Addiction is a continued behavior in the face of negative consequences.
Therefore Eq can be called addictive if one fixates on the game. (However small a percentage this may be.)
Suicide
# Oct 21 2002 at 1:37 PM Rating: Default
quote from the ugly lady "My son always had emotional problems, but it was the everquest that made him commit suicide!! "

The episode did show that many of us play the game more than we should (addiction is the bad word). But like the guy from sony said, its a form of entertainment. Damn good entertainment if you ask me.

Lvl 51 monk
Saryrn
boycott
# Oct 21 2002 at 1:33 PM Rating: Decent
I will no longer watch cbs. I thought your article was right on the mark.
tele or EQ ?
# Oct 21 2002 at 1:33 PM Rating: Decent
Is everquest avalible in injection form Lol

ok on a more serious note I'm a avide player of eq
I work from 8.00 in the morning till 5.00 at night in a sales office. So it can be pretty intense when I get home EQ is a way for me to relax and have some fun.

It's the normal attitude if people don't understand or feel threatened by it they try to destroy it.

Question to think about what would I be doing if not playing EQ ?
My anwser watching televison (30 channels of c**p)

(sorry for any spelling mistakes my EQ addictions getting to me)
Addicted?
# Oct 21 2002 at 1:31 PM Rating: Default
There are a few things you need to consider when saying if someone is addicted.
1. Is it harmfully affecting their life such as making the person miss apointments, become unhealthily lazy. basically taking president over their lives.
2. What else would they be doing with their time since of course people need time to relax, have fun and such.
3. Might it be affecting them mentaly?

Yah and that fact is that there is tons of information out there and so many stories that CBS could have made EQ look good, however thats not what people want to hear. why do you think 85% of news stories are negative? CBS is a crok liek most other news networks and EQ isnt the first victim. Sure some ignorant % of the population might actually believe that EQ is satanic. Though I doubt that many will. Hell I based on how many people play EQ there are some that work at CBS and play it. Do you think they will quit? I think not
RE: Addicted?
# Oct 21 2002 at 1:45 PM Rating: Decent
when we speak of addiction, we most often refer to a chemical dependence--when the body actually has adapted such that it NEEDS the chemical to function. When deprived of the chemical, it stops functioning correctly and causes all sorts of nasty reactions (intense pain, sweating, vomiting, shaking, and myriad lesser symptoms).

The point is that anyone who really likes EQ can be cut off and, while they may think about the game a lot, miss their friends, want to go camp a FBSS, etc, they will be able to function properly regardless.

Everquest =/= addiction. It is just possible that, in some cases, it causes people to exhibit similar behavior to an addict.

player of a 56 shaman (but not an addict)
CBS? Isn't he dead?
# Oct 21 2002 at 1:30 PM Rating: Decent
These are the same lame **** executives who purchased UPN and then cancelled the 3rd highest rated show, Special Unit 2. The reason given? Cause it didn't fit their image!?!?! UPN is about fiction. What is more ficticious then an undercover unit that polices missing links? Grrrrr!!!

I don't expect much from CBS. Maybe that is what they are hopeing for? The less people will expect, the less money they have to shell out for quality shows. Who knows. I missed the episode. Not on purpose, just forgot. That's how much I watch CBS.

Well anyways. My wife and child would tend to disagree that EQers have no social life or skills.
The war has just begun...
# Oct 21 2002 at 1:29 PM Rating: Default
First of all, that was very well written, Allakhazam. I agree with you completely.

The only problem I see fit now is that the many people who do not play EQ will begin to stereotype players based on the accusations made by the report. When a person plays a game, it becomes not a level of addiction, but rather that of enjoyment... If the person enjoys a game, they continue to play the game in response. If not, they may play a little bit, but not nearly as much as one who does enjoy playing.

Congratulations, CBS. I have actually watched one of your shows... You won't see me again...
funny
# Oct 21 2002 at 1:23 PM Rating: Default
would they say theres something mentally wrong with people who spend every moment awake working,??

true i have and have seen others skip sitting at the table to eat dinner with the rest of the fammily once in a while while playing everquest but would you go AFK while sitting at the feet of lady vox? or anyother mob like that on a raid? i would have to think not....does that make you addicted to eq not likly,

when they interveiw at least 250,000 of the players here then i will redeem faith in there show till then.

Withdrawal
# Oct 21 2002 at 1:18 PM Rating: Decent
*eyes glaze over*
Servers still down....it's been 12 hrs, think I feel the shakes comin...help..please must have EQ.
Can't beleive this, to think at one point in my life I actually had respect for the news.

RE: Withdrawal
# Oct 21 2002 at 1:24 PM Rating: Default
you do have it bad, actually its just been 8.5 hours
BOYCOTT CBS SPONSORS
# Oct 21 2002 at 1:13 PM Rating: Default
hmm my post is gone, guess allakhazam didnt like my proof that EQ can be addictive, although I do agree with alla's article, here's my post again...


I fully agree that 48hours did nothing but create an alarmist biased report designed to make the ignorant scared.

However I disagree on the addiction thing, I can control it now, however for perhaps half of the three years I've played this game, I NEEDED to play, thought about it constantly when I wasnt playing, let it affect my personal life.

There is a physical factor here, action packed games can have the same effect on your brain as cocaine, scientific studies have shown this for
games such as Quake. I find it to be a small step from that to how EQ can effect me.

... Now if 48 hours had done some real research and come across this then maybe they would have had an arguement, but as far as they reported, they had no basis to call EQ addictive.

The 48hours report has degenerated journalism down to the scummy level of what you see on Entertainment Tonight. Playing on the typical
American lack ability to take responsibility for their own actions.

You have to figure that with 450,000 people playing the game, and the level of mental illness in the general population up around at least 5%, that there are going to be a few everyyear out of the resulting 22,000 mentaly sick EQ players that will do something extremely self destructive. But why didnt they tell us how one EQ player out of
450,000 killed himself, but that in the general population many many more kill themselves each year for every 450,000 people.

I intend to email 48hours and CBS informing them that although I'll still watch the shows I enjoy...

I SHALL NOT BUY ANYTHING FROM THEIR SPONSORS

...until they regain their integrity. When the advertisers leave, they wont make advertising money for the shows that mean the most to them.

That is the only thing they will listen to. I encourage all of you to do the same.
RE: BOYCOTT CBS SPONSORS
# Oct 21 2002 at 1:30 PM Rating: Decent
ROFLMAO, your original post is on page 2. I agree with you, though. Although it is my hope, that CBS is flooded with feedback from 100,000+ EQ players. Perhaps an overwhelming response from all of us would wake them up. Either that, or start overwhelming their competitors with enough email that they pick up our stories and run with them this Friday, to counter the one that 48 Hours ran last Friday.
RE: BOYCOTT CBS SPONSORS
# Oct 21 2002 at 1:36 PM Rating: Default
hehe smack me silly, must be the withdrawl pains.
Keep in Mind, this was 48 hours
# Oct 21 2002 at 1:13 PM Rating: Decent
We're not exactly dealing with a quality news program. I didn't watch the show either, I work midnights and was busy doing my job. I wouldn't have watched it even if I was home. 48 Hours is far beneath my notice. All they want is a bunch of pissed off gamers to send them flaming emails, so they can talk about the response that their show generated. Why not do a news show about how coming on EQ to blow off steam has kept me from having a screaming fit on some of my employees??? Or how about I send them an email saying that their show is what's really keeping me away from my family, I have to tape it and watch it ALLLL the time, and I'm waiting for 48 hours on dvd so I can get all the special features..... 48 Hours is the REAL problem, news program of satan that it is.

Edited, Mon Oct 21 13:58:27 2002
the definition of addiction
# Oct 21 2002 at 1:12 PM Rating: Default
As a certified addiction counselor I feel compelled to correct some of your statements about addiction and withdrawl. According to the DSM IV (Diagnostic and Statictical Manual 4th eddition ie the psychologist bible) two identifying factors for addiction are "important social, occupational, or recreational activities are given up or redused because of substance use" and "the substance used is continued despite knowledge of having a persistant or recurrent...problem thas is likely to have been caused or exacerbated by the substance." (DSM IV TR p110)

Anyone who has seriously quested some of the longer items in the game (my ivy legs and the shield of bane warding that im currentyl working on come to mind) can verify that everquest can be the cause the first quotes that I sited. The second sitation is where everquest come in contact with the real world. In plain english it states that if everquest causes a problem anywhere and you refuse to put it down and solve the problem it can be a sign of addiction.
You were quite right to point to the heroin addict as showing the physical signs of withdrawl but addiction is a bio-phycho-social disease. This means simply that it has parts that affect the body, mind and social life of the victum. You do not need all 3 to be an addict. Everquest can be addictive if it is used as a substitute for real life and the challenges that it brings.

As you so rightly pointed out it is a matter of balance and self control. When you quit your job in order to play more EQ there could be a problem. When you go from being an "A" student to failing school because you spend all your time online there could be a problem. When your wife threatens to leave you and you head out on the Plain of Fear raid anyway there could be a problem. This is just a game and needs to be balanced with some very real life considerations.
If you cant log off when real life calls there is a problem.

Having addressed that I have to completly agree with you on the complete mishandling of the story.
What we have to remember about the media and television in particular is that it is a money making bussiness just like anything else in this country. For them ratings mean money and they will deliberately slant stories so as to have the maximum shock value. They (for the most part) are not interested in presenting the facts but in using them to push the envelope and gain peoples attention. I remember similar attacks on D&D. They presented stories about people who had killed themselves with swords and maces claiming that it was caused by D&D. They never mentioned the drugs, alcohol, mental instability, or abusive home situations of those people either.
Again real life problems need to be taken care of before the game is joined and real life should take priority over Everquest. (Im not going to bashthe media any more cause they are not worth the valuable time i would spend doing it.)

Thank You for your time
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RE: the definition of addiction
# Oct 21 2002 at 4:27 PM Rating: Default
Ahh the good old days of D&D bashing. OOH OOH! Maybe they'll even make a "Mazes and Monsters" 2 movie as well? *eg* Ya never know...
RE: the definition of addiction
# Oct 21 2002 at 2:44 PM Rating: Decent
Note that the DSM IV includes in both required criteria for addiction the term "substance." The DSM IV is intentionally taking a conservative approach to the definition of addiction in this manner, requiring a substance to be involved in order to qualify for the use of the term. Allakhazam is also using this conservative and limited definition. While many of us have heard of work addictions, sex addictions, gambling addictions, and even internet addictions, since none require the use of a substance to alter body chemistry and ultimately brain functions, they cannot be considered addictions according to the DSM IV definition cited above.

Psychologists, medical doctors and social scientists currently don't agree, either within or between their communities, as to whether the word addiction can or should be applied to conditions other than substance dependence. It is probably fair to say that any pleasureable activity can lead to compulsive behaviors, depending on the individual's circumstances and mental health status. Given the current state of neuropsychology, there is no firm, authoritative answer as to when a desire for pleasure becomes pathologically abnormal.

I think, like Allakhazam, that it is possible to suffer negative social effects as a result of obsession over ANY type of pleasureable behavior.

Given a population of 250-300 million people in the US alone, the presence of a few who engage in asocial or anti-social behavior does not make the underlying recreational medium "addictive" by definition, whether that medium is playing golf, watching television, climbing mountains, attending church, studying crop circles, debating the corruption of the capitalist post-modern condition, or playing Everquest. Any activity that is enjoyable can be the medium of an obsessive behavior. If an individual exhibits an obsessive behavior, the medium is not the "cause," and removing the medium will not eliminate the condition. The underlying psychological condition that allowed a pleasurable activity to dominate an individual's life needs be examined, understood, and treated.

48 Hours should have known this and taken it into account, but did not. Some media outlets seem to tend toward this sort of sensational coverage. It is utterly irresponsible because it leads to the reinforcement of public perception that people lack individual wills, can make no choices for themselves, and are at the mercy of others who have perfected methods of controlling our wills (which begs the question of whether those "others" do this willfully or are under some other extended form of external command).

The only way to make sure that no one will ever become "addicted" to pleasurable activities is to enforce the abolition of all pleasureable activities. Societies that have tried that inevitably die after a generation (no sex means no babies), OR they redefine social structures in order to codify and enforce forms of socially "acceptable" pleasure as a template for all social behavior (as cults and strict religious societies do).

We all know we don't want that to happen on a massive scale. It would be nice if the 48 hours crew had thought of that too.
RE: the definition of addiction
# Oct 21 2002 at 1:40 PM Rating: Default
I remember when I was in Jr. High School and my friends and I wanted to form a "D&D" club. We went to the prinicpal to get permission and were told that we couldn't form our club because of the psychological dangers of role-playing games. There was a case at the time concering a small group of kids who had ventured into a sewer system pretending to be adventurers. If I remember correctly (this was 20 years ago) one of the kids died. This set off a firestorm of protest about D&D and led to our being denied permission to form our club.

This 48 hours story strikes me as the same type of overblown reaction to what amounted to stupidity. As someone pointed out, if these kids didnt do something stupid in the name of D&D, they would have undoubtedly done something stupid in the name of some other cause.

The same holds true for the young man who committed suicide because of perceived slights within the EQ community. If he didnt kill himself in the name of EQ, can anyone honestly say he wouldn't have found another reason?

One thing about most of the posts in this thread that bothers me is the portrayal of the "media" as bloodsucking thugs with no integrity. As a member of the "media" i take offense to that portrayal. The story was handled incorrectly. That makes this reporter wrong in this instance, it is not and should not be an indictment of the "media" as a whole. I for one have a great deal of integrity and I pointed out the holes in that story to anyone who would listen.

The vast majority of the journalists that I have worked with try their best to be fair when reporting a story. Because 48 hours failed in this quest, does NOT mean that the rest of us do.
Always leaving the important things out
# Oct 21 2002 at 1:11 PM Rating: Default
If anyone else noticed, they didn't even mention that the suicidal boy had a mental condition and that his mother was a horrible person by kicking her son out of the house for playing EQ. CBS you're truly the worst journalists I have yet to see. I HATE YOU! btw WTG Allakhazam!
Heh
# Oct 21 2002 at 1:08 PM Rating: Decent
Win Ben Stein's Plat
RE: Heh
# Oct 21 2002 at 2:42 PM Rating: Default
LMAO Heh heh, very nice.
RE: Heh
# Oct 21 2002 at 1:51 PM Rating: Default
rotflmfao
CBS are idiots
# Oct 21 2002 at 1:06 PM Rating: Default
The people at CBS that made this show are worse than blood(and money) sucking lawyers and vampires combined! Saying EQ is an addiction? PLEEEEEEEEAAAAASE!!!!! People play EQ for fun and to relieve stress while bashing, slicing, nuking, kicking, or doing anything else to an opponent.
Also, other than the Shawn kid, no-one has killed themselves over EQ. He could have done the same thing at a chatroom, on Warcraft, Diablo, or any other multi-player worldwide RPG.
Re: Communist Broadcasting Station
# Oct 21 2002 at 1:06 PM Rating: Default
Aye, Comedy Central is the best!!
Comedy Central > CBS
Good Post
# Oct 21 2002 at 1:05 PM Rating: Excellent
Weeee. Ya know we all have hobbies. Hobbies such as Everquest, hiking, fixing bikes or cars, cooking, playing sports. Hobbies are something people do to spend their time, and if one is hardcore to their hobby, they will be willing to spend large amounts of time towards it. If a child in high school is on the footbal team, I am sure between practices and games they spend easily over 20 hours a week on it. Do we see this as a terrible evil addiction? nope. Let us look at the hobby of hiking. I know a few people who like to hike, and spend almost every night doing it-- if not every weekend hiking or camping. Most of the time couples enjoy this hobby together, which helps bring them closer together. Is this an evil? hmmm no. yet, this brings me to my next point. What about all the couples that play eq together? For myself had it not been for eq, I would not have ever met my current girlfriend of almost 6 months now. We play eq together almost every night, either as a team killing a few seafuries, or enjoying time with our other friends we have made in the game including our guild. From the bottom of my heart I thank verant so much for this fact that I have now met someone so sweet as well as the fact that both of us can spend time doing something we both enjoy, together. To me Everquest is not an evil addiction, yet something in which thousands of people from across the world can use to meet new friends, new loves, and play together in a very enjoyable game.
I believe CBS needs to look at the thousands of pros to playing this online game vs the hmm.. I see no negatives to playing, so CBS, re-look your ignorant heads. (note the term ignorant. For those CBS officials who do not understand the term, it means lack of education. You should educate yourselves a bit more before doing a story on something like this)

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WTF is with this !!!
# Oct 21 2002 at 1:05 PM Rating: Decent
I missed the CBS show =( sounds like something to laugh at.

I would just like to say that you know when im at school i do feel like playing BUT I DONT =) When im at home brushing my teeth befor bed i might feel like playing but i dont. EverQuest is not addictive, Addiction is something you NEED and if your not playing you feel sick until you do and play 10+ hours a day. But over 90% of all people playing EQ are NOT ADDICTS !

BTW WTG ALLAKAZAM !!! WOOT, my moms reading this LOL
deja-vu
# Oct 21 2002 at 1:04 PM Rating: Decent
Heh, this whole thing gives me flashbacks of all the nonsense regarding D&D and heavy metal. Some kid that's mentally unstable to begin with does something stoopid and the parents immediatly blame anything they can think of besides the real culprit, themselves. The result is the armies of retarted parents who have no idea what they are actually talking about and have no minds of their own believe what they are force-fed on tv/newspapers/etc. go on a whitch hunt and anyone who knows that the real deal is pays the price some how or another.

Generally speaking, a person is intelligent but people are stupid, ignorant, braindead, and act without actually thinking or understanding. It's always amazing what collective stupidity can accomplish. Hopefully the majority of sane viewers out there wont ban their kids from playing because of a few confused people and bored network execs.

<shrug> Oh well.. back to work I go.
CBS - Communist Broadcasting Station
# Oct 21 2002 at 1:03 PM Rating: Default
Excellent editorial. I think CBS is just jealous because they can't charge people $13 a month to watch their lame shows.

TV Sucks. (Except Comedy Central ;))
Stupid CBS
# Oct 21 2002 at 1:00 PM Rating: Default
I read your aritcle and it was amazing. I am appalled that CBS pulled this ridiculous stunt, they have lost my support and everyone else's I know. WTG Allakhazam!
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