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#1 Sep 23 2004 at 6:07 PM Rating: Decent
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i am a 22 war , powerleveld myself there. i have been hunting ghouls in valkrum and gusgen for hours on end. ive killed 12+ in valkrum and well over 25 in gusgen, without a single magicked skull drop. i paid a L27 thf 10K to be in my party , hoping to incrase the chance of getting a skull, but nothing. i am at a loss, does anyone know what the problem could be? does that rate at which it drops have anything to do with the level of the person fighting it, or how many people are fighting it? please someone , i am desperate
#2 Sep 23 2004 at 6:29 PM Rating: Decent
if u're having trouble getting it u might want to ask a thf(with treasure hunter) to help u.

I'm a thf so if i'm not busy u can /t coleslawman for help
#3 Sep 23 2004 at 6:30 PM Rating: Decent
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read my post again, i did
#4 Sep 23 2004 at 6:31 PM Rating: Decent
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My ingame character's name is Alayne. I won't promise anything but if I am not in a pt lvling already or already engaged elsewhere I will help the best I can. I have a lvl 38 whm and can sub thf for TH2.

As for the Magiked Skull drop itself. Yes your lvl compared to the mob's lvl does matter in drop rate. The higher the difference, the lower the chance for drops. The Magiked Skull is supposedly a 5 percentile drop of a 1% drop of Ghouls (i.e. you have to roll 1 and then roll under 5 on your next roll of a D100 roll.) Treasure Hunter only doubles the percentile. So instead of 1%-5% chance you have a 2%-10% chance; as far as I know. So in effect I don't think Magiked Skull drop rate is effected by lvl much sense its already rock bottom.

So you have two choices.

1.) select another job to lvl. I would suggest lvling monk or thf so that you can 'sub' war whenever you get the skull.

2.) Get a high lvl dmg dlr's help. The 'ideal' is something like a drk/thf or drg/thf that is around 35-40 lvl. The point is that they can hit Ghouls hard and kill them fast. I could kill Ghouls easy but it would take 5 times longer as whm's aren't very skilled in dmg dling. Yet the point is to get the most number of 'drops' possible per unit time. That way you have the highest chance of getting the drop.

Though either way I have no problem killing ghouls for a couple hours. I like Gusgen Mines, I think its one of the more interesting places in the game ^^... oh! and I would do it for free. I think its absurd for people to charge money to help you get quest/mission items. why? cause if that becomes the 'established' trend then the people doing the helping will just need someone else's help when karma turns on them. It's a circular cycle of gil that isn't needed imho.

Note: It seems Ghouls in the Dunes have a better drop rate than in Gusgen just because it 'seems' more people 'don't' have to go to Gusgen Mines than do to get the item. There are a lot more ghouls in Gusgen Mines though.... of course I am probably off on my perspective though.
#5 Sep 23 2004 at 6:38 PM Rating: Decent
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thanks, ill try it, if i cant get a drop in 50 more ghouls im deleting my character. this quest is not supposed to take 12-15+ hours
#6 Sep 24 2004 at 5:01 AM Rating: Decent
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where did you get that drop rate figure? that seems insanely low to me and people get them much easier than that. i've personally seen quite a few drop and i haven't seen hundred killed. One of my parties got two in one night. i say just keep trying in gusgen with a high lvl player with treasure hunter. this is the horror story that everyone growing up in the dunes if afraid of. sorry it happened to you. keep trying, you'll get it! I'm willing to help too, although my character is pretty much the same as Chrichton's :D if i'm not in a party i'll help you out. /tell warsong
#7 Sep 24 2004 at 8:20 AM Rating: Decent
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Same here. Look me up and if I can I'll help. Those ghouls are intimidated by us paladins.
#8 Sep 24 2004 at 8:25 AM Rating: Decent
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I have had no problem getting the skull when farming skeletons. As a monk I can kill them fast so if you are on tonight and still need the skull drop me a tell and I will get you your skull.

Klahan
#9 Sep 24 2004 at 8:43 AM Rating: Decent
hi there, my name is ylla, i am a rdm but can sub thf for u if u need help. leave me a message if you still need help tonight. i will be on. ^^ good luck!
fyi, we killed "1" ghoul last week and the skull did drop.... i guess it depends on luck.
#10 Sep 24 2004 at 9:40 AM Rating: Decent
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Yes your lvl compared to the mob's lvl does matter in drop rate.


This is a very common misconception. Square has said outright that this is not true. I don't have the link on me, but it was in an interview on the Warcry FFXI site. In my experience, the drop rate on skulls hasn't changed since I started helping with them at 30 to the last time I helped with one at 56.

As far as actually getting the drop goes, I'd say just track down friendly high level help to slaughter all of the ghouls in Gusgen for you. I'd be willing to help if I'm free, but I think my weekend is kinda booked. It looks like you have several other offers of help though, so you should be a-ok.
#11 Sep 24 2004 at 9:58 AM Rating: Decent
I can help you with this over the weekend if you catch me at the right time...I will be near bastok anyway...this is my in game name as well, and I have a 45THF w/ TH2 ^^
#12 Sep 24 2004 at 5:02 PM Rating: Decent
If u still don't have the skull yet,look me up i'll help u to get the skull.My ingame name is Darkmeat 51DRK/33THF.
#13 Sep 24 2004 at 5:35 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm also there if anyone needs help with their skull. If you see me in that part of the world, give me a tell and see if I'm free. I'll meet you in Gusgen mines (or at Crag of Dem if you don't know where it is) and kill ghouls for you. This goes for anybody on shiva that reads this and needs a skull.
#14 Sep 24 2004 at 5:50 PM Rating: Decent
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This skull is not hard to get in any way. Drop rates are only affected by Treasure Hunter effects, and Full moons. I acually jsut helped a lowbie yesterday with a skulls(in gusgen, was going to Oldton Movolpolos) i was a 61SMN/WHM, w/ a 59BST/BLM. we got it in 3 ghouls. Tough luck on the bad drops whoever posted this. I was screwed on many coffer key drops and other hings, like LB1 stuff(this is like the SJ quest on INSANE difficulty).
#15 Sep 26 2004 at 6:31 PM Rating: Decent
whenever im passing through valkurm on foot and its night time i always wide scan for ghouls and kill them, usually ill make sure that my inventory is full so it'll go into treasure and ill do a shout for anyone needing the skull for subjob, then its just a simple party invite to them, let them cast lots and i pass...
i average about one skull every 2 trips through the dunes. i find that u'll know its gonna drop if the ghoul seems a bit harder then the other ones uve fought

im a level 35 ranger/ninja so im not sure how much that would affect drop rate but my success rate still is not bad


names Crystof btw, if im in the area i'd be glad to help
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