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Ok, this isn't your typical "tell me what to do" thread. Basically I am looking for some input here from experienced crafters and PvP. I am a newcomer to the WoW, playing an Undead warlock (surprise?) on a PvP server. Since I am thinking about making this character my primary PvP toon, I decided to take up Engineering and Mining, to help expand my abilities. However, as I look over a listing of items made from Tailoring, I am also thinking about Tailoring/Enchanting, so I can make my own gear when I quests and drops aren't cutting it anymore. So, do the benefits from Engineering outweigh Tailoring? Or should I do what I have been considering, creating and Undead mage to be a Tailor/Enchanter?
One of the misconceptions of new players is "WoW! I can make my own equipment!". The true thing is that it costs to maintain a parity between crafting level and toon level. In general, you can't pick up enough materials to level a skill as quickly as your toon levels, so you'll be forced to purchase the mats at the auction house. That also means that you have to make choices - do you purchase the level training skills, or do you level your craft. Usually you won't have enough money for both, and that's why crafting really sucks at low levels.
I'm in total agreement with most people here that what you need at low levels are gathering professions. skinning/fishing, + either mining or herbalism. With these trade skills, you'll be able to make enough gold to purchase better stuff at the AH than you can make. At higher levels, when you have enough gold to power-level a crafting profession, you can make money from rare recipes.
I'm in total agreement with most people here that what you need at low levels are gathering professions. skinning/fishing, + either mining or herbalism. With these trade skills, you'll be able to make enough gold to purchase better stuff at the AH than you can make. At higher levels, when you have enough gold to power-level a crafting profession, you can make money from rare recipes.
2 cents from a guy who is not scared to repeat himself.
One profession is geared for PvP and only one, and my freind, you already got it.
What is it about tailoring that tickles your fancy? Mind you I am not putting down the trade, I just am currious.
The Tailoring Pros:
1: Make your own armor
2: Mooncloth(essentaly you can just make cash .... as of now, who knows what the x pac holds)
The Cons
1:The armor you make rocks, till about level 30, when the game gives you a healthy supply of instances that offer items as good if not better.
2:you give up a viable source of cash, selling cloth
As you can see the profession ballances out, but the hoot is that 90% of the items you may want from the job can be purchased(or traded if you stockpile cloth). When you get to late in the game and you want the Robe of the void, you may think of droping mining and leveling talioring to make one, then go back to mining, but overall the profession is great for PvE, but what you give up to keep it is too much IMHO.
Enchanting is your poor choice IMHO, it is a poor choice for a first toon profession, make your first alt a enchanter. While I will not get in to the pros and cons of enchanting now; I will let you know most folks who take it on the first toon are on theese fourms whining up a storm about how they get cheated and it is sooooo hard. Well It is a hard job, and they do get cheated, so do not put your self in a position to be that guy. lastly unless you are a druid, there is not a thing in enchanting that you cannot buy(if you alt is a enchanter he can make the mats for you to get cheap enchants from others, well for a litte while, they are changing some of the Disenchanting rules in B.C.)
When you play on a PvP server, One profession is king and thats blowing up crap. Other jobs are good two, and enginering is not for everybody, but a lock is silly to not take it.
Lock advantages with enginering
1:suplement the warlock's marginal AoE dammage. The ability to stun targets while you get a few tics of RoF or hellfire off is priceless
2: even more CC, net gun is good
3: Mana free Dammage, be it explosives or deathrays extra dammage is good, stuff like the death ray is fun because as a lock you can drain the life of your targets and replace the dammage it dose to you!!!
4:great tastes that go great togather. other classes see this too, but it is just good combos of lock spells and items from the trade. For example, Rogues can be issues on PvP servers, but a warlock with cateye gogles and a felhunter out has a magic synergy and can see tricky rogues/druids from a great distance(it is fun to supprise them when YOU start the fight)
5:landmines!!!!!!
Ok thats it for me:) I hope you enjoy what ever you take, all the professions are fun(Unless it is enchanting on your first toon)
One profession is geared for PvP and only one, and my freind, you already got it.
What is it about tailoring that tickles your fancy? Mind you I am not putting down the trade, I just am currious.
The Tailoring Pros:
1: Make your own armor
2: Mooncloth(essentaly you can just make cash .... as of now, who knows what the x pac holds)
The Cons
1:The armor you make rocks, till about level 30, when the game gives you a healthy supply of instances that offer items as good if not better.
2:you give up a viable source of cash, selling cloth
As you can see the profession ballances out, but the hoot is that 90% of the items you may want from the job can be purchased(or traded if you stockpile cloth). When you get to late in the game and you want the Robe of the void, you may think of droping mining and leveling talioring to make one, then go back to mining, but overall the profession is great for PvE, but what you give up to keep it is too much IMHO.
Enchanting is your poor choice IMHO, it is a poor choice for a first toon profession, make your first alt a enchanter. While I will not get in to the pros and cons of enchanting now; I will let you know most folks who take it on the first toon are on theese fourms whining up a storm about how they get cheated and it is sooooo hard. Well It is a hard job, and they do get cheated, so do not put your self in a position to be that guy. lastly unless you are a druid, there is not a thing in enchanting that you cannot buy(if you alt is a enchanter he can make the mats for you to get cheap enchants from others, well for a litte while, they are changing some of the Disenchanting rules in B.C.)
When you play on a PvP server, One profession is king and thats blowing up crap. Other jobs are good two, and enginering is not for everybody, but a lock is silly to not take it.
Lock advantages with enginering
1:suplement the warlock's marginal AoE dammage. The ability to stun targets while you get a few tics of RoF or hellfire off is priceless
2: even more CC, net gun is good
3: Mana free Dammage, be it explosives or deathrays extra dammage is good, stuff like the death ray is fun because as a lock you can drain the life of your targets and replace the dammage it dose to you!!!
4:great tastes that go great togather. other classes see this too, but it is just good combos of lock spells and items from the trade. For example, Rogues can be issues on PvP servers, but a warlock with cateye gogles and a felhunter out has a magic synergy and can see tricky rogues/druids from a great distance(it is fun to supprise them when YOU start the fight)
5:landmines!!!!!!
Ok thats it for me:) I hope you enjoy what ever you take, all the professions are fun(Unless it is enchanting on your first toon)
Up until I got into the beta for Burning Crusade, I was a confirmed enchanter/engineer for PvP (I have two characters maxed out in that spec). And it has worked wonders in battlegrounds. I actually leveled enchanting and tailoring up to 225 eache and then dropped tailoring for engineering.
Now I am ambivalent about engineering. The new engineering items are good, but you won't be able to use explosives in the PvP arenas. There are some good items, but I am thinking about going tailoring or jewelcrafting.
Tailoring allows making some nice resist gear for running raids to get the uber gear you want for PvP. You could buy that gear if you can find it, but it doesn't show up on the AH often, so you would depend upon a guild tailor for it (which is entirely reasonable).
Jewelcrafting along with Enchanting allows enhancing your equipment. Again, other people can do it for you, but you might want to do it yourself. Not having mining makes Jewelcrafting difficult (like engineering and blacksmithy).
Probably I will stay with enchanting/engineering, but the other choices are tempting...
Now I am ambivalent about engineering. The new engineering items are good, but you won't be able to use explosives in the PvP arenas. There are some good items, but I am thinking about going tailoring or jewelcrafting.
Tailoring allows making some nice resist gear for running raids to get the uber gear you want for PvP. You could buy that gear if you can find it, but it doesn't show up on the AH often, so you would depend upon a guild tailor for it (which is entirely reasonable).
Jewelcrafting along with Enchanting allows enhancing your equipment. Again, other people can do it for you, but you might want to do it yourself. Not having mining makes Jewelcrafting difficult (like engineering and blacksmithy).
Probably I will stay with enchanting/engineering, but the other choices are tempting...
There are a few items that tailoring provides a caster that are actually useful mid level:
Robe of Power: http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=7054
Dreamweave Gloves: http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=10019
Dreamweave Circlet: http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=10041
Dreamweave Vest: http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=10021
I wore all of these at one point or another. Unfortunately, without any stamina I'm not sure how useful they would be to a 'lock.
If you do stick with tailoring, there is always your Robe of the Void at the later levels: http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=14153
Pattern drops fairly regularly off of Gandling in Scholo, but it's fairly cheap in the AH as well. Runs about 25g on my server.
Robe of Power: http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=7054
Dreamweave Gloves: http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=10019
Dreamweave Circlet: http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=10041
Dreamweave Vest: http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=10021
I wore all of these at one point or another. Unfortunately, without any stamina I'm not sure how useful they would be to a 'lock.
If you do stick with tailoring, there is always your Robe of the Void at the later levels: http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=14153
Pattern drops fairly regularly off of Gandling in Scholo, but it's fairly cheap in the AH as well. Runs about 25g on my server.
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