New theme song for all you cheaters and RMT out thereFollow

Shiva forums are like soap opera's...You do not read them for a couple weeks and the storyline still has yet to progres anything at all!

Go Aeris, I am glad to see YC doing so good ^^

This thread is redundant. Funny but redundant.

People botted last year and the year before...this year..next year..and unless SE starts to program like their lives depend on it, most likely it will continue.

If you think you don't have at least one or two people in a HNM LS (endgame/sky/sea/hnm/etc) that bot, you are mistaken. I am not talking about linkshells that have never fought a king before or have not made their mark in the hnm scene on this server. I am talking about the already established linkshells that have been around a while (some that are no longer around or their leaders have quit the game, therefore the linkshells are not quite the same).

Just because the leaders of these linkshells can 100% claim that their linkshells do not bot does not mean that they don't. Its called Plausible deniabilty ie "I don't wanna know about it". Do leaders ask everys ingle person in their linkshell if they bot, have botted, or have any intention of botting? Course not? And if by some insane spark of interrogation, they do that, who's to say those people are honest. I can attest to my knowledge that in every endgame "real" or established hnm ls, there has been a past of botting, intent of botting or curiousity of boiting. This does not mean the whole LS does this, but 1 or 2 people is all it takes. And if you don't believe this...you are very naive and still have a lot to learn.

On the subject of Zen- people join for various reasons. Some people are greedy and just want things. However, that's the minority. If you notice, most of the people are all ffxi veterans who have done things, killed things amd know their way. You don't have fresh noobs running around (which probably arouses some subliminal envy in some of you). Some just want to enjoy the rest that endgame has to offer without the bs of diplomacy and fake hello's and commentary. Some, in fact many, have joined because their friends have, and they just want to enjoy endgame with their friends despite controversy. So all in all, depends on people's personal point of view. Just because people go in a gay bar, slug a few drinks back, pal around with some guy named Bob and joke about men in tight pants doesn't mean they are now ticket carrying friends of Dorothy. It just means they like the atmosphere, the people and what the bar has to offer.

Anyway, just some 2 cents. I couldn't sleep and thought I would peruse. Who knows next time I will check out the alla trash again. Cheers, peeps.

Shahla

Not only can DVS3 kill Aspidochelone in 45 seconds. The can wipe to Cerberus with the same number of people in about the same amount of time.

Hmm...pretty sure we didn't have the same amount of people at Cerebrus, but I've heard mention of 'uber' Zen wiping to Cerebrus too, how about the 'uber' Zen wiping to Vrtra a few times, or better yet the wipe at the Aern camp, how sad your name is so ill spoken that no one would bother to even raise your people....hmmm...but let's just not go there. Zen talks a good game, but they are just as fallible as the rest of us.

We never really considered ourselves an HNM shell so much as an endgame shell, there is a difference, there is so much more to endgame than camping HNMs. We're not the only ones out there. I will say, we are making the transition to be even more well rounded as we were before and we'll get there. So we wiped at Cerebrus, big whoop, you learn and go on.

Poke your fun at us, it matters not, we've accomplished alot, we may not have the Kings under our belt yet, but meh, there's more out there for us to be proud of and like I said earlier we'll get there.

Edited, Sep 9th 2006 at 4:27am EDT by SKPohina

Oh oh oh!! Someone teach me to say this "lawl" correctly. I dont feel like enough of a an e-loser i need the lingo!!