Does no one help people unconditonally anymore?Follow

It seems like nobody is willing to help the random person anymore, without throwing out some gil reward or some nonsense. If I'm not busy, sitting in Jeuno, and I see a shout, I usually respond. I mean, hey, I know you don't -have- to help, your prerogative.. do what you want, but damn, I've been shouting for Kasha NM help for a week now. Not one response

In a desperation attempt, I headed over to Kuftal, sat ontop of the '???' and gave a shout. Almost immediatley after that, I see a group of 75's run up, examine the ??? and proceed to kill the NM.. The hell is up with that? I'm right there.. you only need to fight it once.. why not invite me.. if you can kill it with 4, you sure as hell can kill it with 5.

Meh, This is just extremely frustrating..

I sure don't. I'm not ashamed to admit it either because I have a logical reason not to. I used to be a nice guy, I enjoyed helping people back in the day. But over time as I met an innumerable amount of idiots, hypocritts, liers, and several other negatively characteristic people, that changed. I don't consider myself 'nice' at all. Infact, if someone were to ask me about myself, I'd just say I'm evil.

Theres four types of people in this game who will ask for help:

1. The Spoiled Brat
I got tired of helping people once or twice then having them come back later 'expecting' me to 'want' help them again. I hate it when someone sends me a tell like this, "Do you want to help me with..." as if its my personal hobby to serve them. My suggestion to people like that is do it your damn self or go ask someone else for once.

2. The Two-faced Hypocritt
I would help someone with something, then should the tables turn later and I ask them for a favor: A. They pretend they're busy or make up an excuse not to, or procrastonate and say they'll do it later. B. Act like they don't even know me, hear me, or remember any sort of past encounter with me, thus treat me like a total stranger. C. Ignore me when they're around other people then all of a sudden I'm they're best friend when no one else is there.

3. The Idiots who can't be helped.
I'm sure everyone has at one time, helped someone so careless, dumb or inconsiderate that they regret even loging on that day. You guys know the type I'm talking about, the one who always spawns the NM before you're ready, the one who wont cure you when you're about to die, the one who gets aggroed every 5 steps and slows down the whole process, and of course the one who gets you killed and doesn't give a **** because it wasn't him that died.

4. The Ones worth helping.
These are the few people you can trust who won't fall under either of the above catagories. They're your friends, family, linkmates, set parties, etc. Unfortunately I haven't known many of them. Even in my linkshells, there was always someone not to be trusted.


So from my personal experiances, I don't trust anyone anymore. I don't help people unconditionally unless I really want to or they just happen to be lucky enough to be in the same place and time as me. They either have to be a friend of mine, I'd have to owe them a favor, or I simply charge them gil. Thats all that matters to me, I don't care about what people think.

To summerize my long winded post, " Does no one help people unconditonally anymore?"
Not likely.

Edited, Fri Aug 5 17:04:49 2005 by Fujitaru

Edited, Fri Aug 5 16:56:57 2005 by Fujitaru

yes, they did, i remember all the times when ppl used to help, just for something to do even, and it was fun.

i know there is a lot of times when i just look for a random shout in jeuno and grab it and go help, i don't do it as much as i used to, being more busy than i used to be, but i do notice that when i do it, there aren't as many others doing it as well and it can be quite difficult at times to get enough people for the task at hand. :/

Well, It was more of a vent, than a plea for help. But I'd appreciate any help I could get.

I used to help anyone I seen shouting in Jeuno. That all changed. when it became increasingly more common for people to not know what the hell they're meant to be doing with their Quest or Mission, and expecting me to tell them.

I don't like being invited to a G1 party, then someone says "So, where do I activate the quest?" "I don't know where Eldieme is."

If I'm going to spend a good 3-4 hours of my time (and that is a lot of time when you look at what else you could do away from the PC in 3 or 4 hours), I expect the person I'm helping to be ready to go, not be faffing about at the AH, and to know where the hell to go and what they have to do!

Alas, people are just too lazy to find out. They expect you to do it for them. So in answer to your question, OP, No.

edit- typo, punctuation.

Edited, Sat Aug 6 06:08:31 2005 by xConnox

I've never asked a stranger for help. I expect them to return the favor.

Often times I'll ask if I can help, but at level 52 theres not much I can do ;;

In reality, everything usually has it's price. Sad, but true. Every now and then I'll be happy to help out a complete stranger, but often times I have things to do by my own LS. I am always willing to help out, but you'd be surprised how more often than not someone sends me a tell to borrow cash. It also varies by what people need help with. I've done my share of G1's, Kazham keys, job flag quests, for total strangers. But I just don't usually have time to go fight a lengthy NM that people in my LS probably need. But, for example, we're going to do Agas soon and I believe some strangers are teaming up with the LS for that.

I've been getting that a lot lately buddy. People dislike me. ^^b

Never ever help anyone in this game, if you do they will expect you to be at their beckon call, then when you want to do something else that you want to do they will be pissed at you.

Many people in this game are not worth the time or effort to give a **** about.

People will think you are their slave.

Adn last note.

Hnmls's are the downfall of this game. They take all fun and control out of a players hands.

2nd that! and you guys called me mean and selfish! :P
(btw, i got rated down for this damn comment. probably by someone who begged me for help one day and caught me on one of my bad days) ..!.. to you too. :3

Edited, Mon Aug 8 20:25:59 2005 by Xenger

Perhaps my misconceptions are wrong . . . but I think many people play this game and form friendships inside and outside their linkshell (since alot of people seem to be members in multiple linkshells these days).

Alot of times in ffxi if you want to get something accomplished you need to help out other people so they can return the help or assistance in the future (or if you are bored).

For example if you want help for your AF3 battle, you might need to help someone else in their AF battle. Be prepared to help others so they can help you. If all you are doing is begging for help without being willing to help others, you will have a tough road ahead of you.

Be flexible and creative. For example ~ the whm af3 battle can get scary with dimension death and linkage with respawning shades, but if you are having problems gathering enough help, you can always try to form an alliance with people doing rdm af3 (Miser Murphy is in same area). They help out in your battle and you help out in theirs and in the end everyone goes home happy.