Gil-sellers are now offically *******Follow

Found this on Playonline update page

The way that the following items are acquired has been changed:
Archer Ring, Leaping Boots, Emperor Hairpin, Peacock Charm
In addition, players may receive an EX/Rare or EX item with the same attributes from the monsters who previously dropped each of the above items.

Well, it seems like they are taking action now... /hurray!

Thank you very much SE!

This is alot like what they did with the exp, when they made it easier for everyone to level up, now it's easier to be "uber" as well, which should equal less whining... :P

Too bad I already camped the NMs a long time ago for those items :/

Very Cool means to Debunk Mob Whoring :) All they need to do no is change the Strooper Chime Spawn time out w/ Morbolger :-)

Gilsellers aren't ****** until the same change is made to Cassie Earring, Serket Ring, Strider Boots, <insert whatever other NM drop they tend to *****>. Come on NA, let's start whining, we can make a change.

Oh, Kraken Club and Speed Belt made Rare/Ex would be hot too, but those are uber items that JP like to botcamp, so they're not gonna be changed. ^^

yeah that I don't get.

Can't steal your claim, but now they have more incentive to MPK you. Doesn't make much sense.

The vast majority of camping of these 4 items was done by legitimate players. They would be expensive whether or not gil sellers existed. I fell bad for you if you're so naive to believe that 90% of normal players (the other 10% being righteous morons) would not have raised the prices to where they are today regardless of gilsellers.

Yes, this change is a good thing, but not because it "fuc[u][/u]ks gil sellers."

Actually it does f*** them over in a way.

The reason prices are raised is because of natural laws of supply and demand, not because the sellers (gil seller or regular player) are necessarily "greedy". Gil selling arises out of the demand for gil buying which arises out of nearly infinite demand for these items which causes super price inflation. Another way to look at it... Gil buying/selling increases the money supply in circulation by several fold which again causes super price inflation.

Making the drop items rare/ex will basically prevent anyone from obtaining a monopoly on these NMs, and everyone and their mother can get them by camping the NMs since the "regulars" will no longer be camping the rare/ex version. (Result: less competition for scare reasources.)

This will likely result in lower demand for non-rare/ex version. Thus, people will have fewer reasons to buy gil. Gil sellers can no longer earn income in this manner. It could be seen an attack on gil trading companies on two fronts.

End ideal result: Less money in circulation and an overall decrease in prices.

Of course, the gil sellers will probably just move on to something else..

Thanks o_o though wonder why people rated me down for it ^^; Everyone knows they have good gil drops.

Sirens hair, venemous claw, shining cloth, divine log, and kirins osode can even be sold for 25mil... fafnir+nidhogg have good gil drops and so do behe+KB.
Dunno if Aspi does or not though... never really looked into it.

I don't expect them to be all over it tomorrow. But I do think that removing some big low level gil sources will push them to speed up leveling toward this.

One question through

Since future archer rings wont be tradeable...

Does this mean, sniper ring crafters gotta camp their own material?

High prices dont effect anyone, unless your method of making gil was actually farming gil. (Killing Giants for Gil) Because the value of gil is about 1/5th what it was. Other than that just about everything in the economy has inflated. Look at prices from about a year ago and everything is about 3-5x what it was then. Beehive chips 2k -> 10k stack. Silent oil 5k -> 20k stack. Just a few examples because Im an alchemist and keep a close eye on those, but for the most part includes everything... So, farm craft items and not gil and it wont effect you much.

Now gilsellers did at one point effect the economy. Back when they use to farm giants in upper delkfutt's tower for hours on end actually introducing new gil into the system. Basically, there seems to be too much money coming into the system and not enough taken out, leading to inflation. Next time you complain about a high chocobo price, that is one of the main influences in removing gil from the system. Its kind of hard to believe that the multi billions in gil currently revolving, were all at one point recieved from either a monster, a quest, bcnm or selling ingredients directly to npc (something im very guilty of). Somewhere along the line SE miscalculated the equation, leading to the current state of inflation. I am not economics major, so correct me if im wrong, but it all seems to add up...

Also, I am usually camping endgame NM's and not the ones mentioned in update, but was there really alot of gilsellers monopolizing these? My impression was bots monopolized argus, VE and LL have a pretty wide spawn area and seems regular players had their fair chances at these mobs. Now stroper chyme, I have definitely noticed gilsellers monopolizing... And what about amemet? >_< That seems to be number one most monopolized of all.

As far as endgame, they havent yet made it to the big HNM's, but currently monopolize serket, simurgh, roc and others. They have also made their way into sky and so far my only encounter with them was having Mother Globe stolen from us. The group I worry about is Aloker, Villok, Vivianky, Vamieok, Kourtney and gang. The LS/Doctorman crew, believe it or not, have seemed to attempted lately to treat others with more respect. This doesnt change the fact that they are monopolizing things, but hey, its a start.

eh long message
peace

Edited, Mon Jul 18 22:54:17 2005 by sStellar

I think the part everyone forgot to bold was the "May" part. It never said those items are being Rare/Ex only now, but that Ex and/or Rare/Ex might be possible now from the same NMs that dropped them. I cannot forsee how things will turn out, but either there's going to be a new mass of camppers (since the chance of EX will require one to earn their hairpin) or reduce the current people known for campping them. (Ex is a big turnoff most of the time.)

In either case, expect the current price of those items to jump to nearly 2~3 fold, like Astral Rings.

I'm really afraid that paying the bills by hunting nms will shortly be a thing of the past. I thoroughly enjoy hunting even against the "gilsellers." its more incentive to outhunt them. anywho, it's one of my favorite parts of the game as of late, and i'm afraid that it will soon be no more. ;.; we'll see.

Have you ever read patch notes before?

"May" just means that the drop is not 100%.

The old NMs will not be dropping both normal and EX versions. They will only be dropping EX versions.

"May" simply means that you won't get a guaranteed drop, just like it is now. You might get an insect wing, for example.