Lamers on the Ragnarok server....Follow

Edited, Sat Nov 13 01:13:22 2004 by PhaseofRagnarok

Edited, Sat Nov 13 01:21:57 2004 by PhaseofRagnarok

What a nice little cry baby thread.

Aim to help, not harass.

.....first of all if your on here you've done SOMETHING that someone took offence to. Instead of b****ing and moaning that blah blah blah wut ever you did to that person is totaly false CIVILY contact that person ingame or via email or PMs dont spam the boards. if you are the acuser dont be demanding try to resolve the problem like a respectable person if they absolutely refuse to comply only then can you become demanding. Second i dont think this kind of board should exist if all thats gonna happen is ppl whine about being accused and name calling. i also think that once a problem has been resolved all the posts related to it should be deleted or edited. as for phase and sweetangle: dude just give him the money. How would you feel in his position? and phase be nice...sweet might actualy be a nice person.

On the Nice Note, I am in Sweetangels LS, and @ the mention of the Senario, Aim or another chat Program would be a much better means of getting any Gil Quarrels resolved.

@ the chance of being trolled by association, Sweetangel is a good player, polite and helpful. As also mentioned, I have yet to see any "shady" actions or occurances by sweet, excluding this Flame babbel-fest.

So Pretty Much, in Summary:
- Sweet is a reasonable and polite player.
- If you still are Lacking in Gil, and can't get over the loss (I Don't care about Circumstances) Talk Via Chat Client or Email.
Good Luck on a Resolution, and more luck to less Flamage.

Hey Pico whats up man :P well i am to in the LS with sweetangel and as Pico said, she has been very helpful and nice to everyone around her.Now as for you Phase you might be lost.. and maybe, i will talk to her on the matter and get her side of the story.. i mean god knows i've read over and over your posts.
And the only way to get the real story is from hearing it from the horses mouth, sorta speak. And to tell you the truth Phase, if trying talk to her and she doesnt reply to you.. then maybe she doesn't want to deal with this and im sure you dont as well.
You have 2 ways around this.. either A) you keep posting about the situation that happend like weeks ago and both go back and forth and sorry to say "*****" about it. Or B) Ignore her dont do BCNM's with her dont send /tells to her etc.. just drop it.
I know if it were me id be upset and yes i might"*****" a bit.. but i'd just let it go and get on with the game... Anywho, i hope you can let it slide and get on with your gaming and try to enjoy it.
laters^^

QueeniexB casts Banish on the negativity thread. Thread resists Banish because QueeniexB is melee and has no magic skills. QueeniexB gets out a dagger and stabs the thread to death instead. Die thread! Die! Die I say!
We were the only server without one of these "people to blacklist" threads and now someone had to go and sully our good reputation. Nobody cares about who did what to whom. Take it somewhere else please and stop filling up our server with your petty problems. I'll say it again - we have ALL been wronged somehow. We just all know how to call it a loss and move on.

Well good call Pico. But there were like x amount of posts about "lamers" here.. and thats the point no? to "complain" or
"*****" about... "lamers" so WTF. Now that it's still going on and on.. who cares if your tired of the Sweet/phase crap.. then dont reply to it. Or i have a better idea. Start your own freaking Forum about something else.. because after all this subject is called lamers of Ragnarok. Not happy fun time. If you want happy fun time.. then i think you might want to look else where.. because from whati have read from all these posts.. i saw NO happy fun time. Must mean pps here are in the wrong are huh? :p
laters ^^

I'm torn as to whether I should respond to this or not. Keeping it at the top of the forum is actually the last thing I want (I know that this is my second post in it but the first one was also an attempt at stopping it, if not as blunt as this). However, I hope that the people who intend to post in this thread actually read it (or some of it) first and then reconsider. Even if you posted in this thread without reading it first but read it afterwards, edit your post and leave it blank.

As other people have said (I know I'm just repeating what the last few posters have said, albeit more long-winded and perhaps even to the point of being boring), that the Ragnarok forum didn't have one of these threads made me very happy. Yes, there are idiots and cheaters and what-have-you-nots on this server as well but that's not the point. Ragnarok is a nice server filled with great people. These are the ones who should be mentioned (and we have that thread too, thankfully) instead of the few who might (or might not) have wronged someone. If you feel mistreated enough that it warrants a post on a forum then start a new thread. For you that're worried that this would cause the forum to fill up with these threads: no it won't. A thread like this causes people to start thinking of their negative experiences in the game. Things that they have most likely forgotten about if it were not for this thread.

The other bad thing (apart from having people focus on bad experiences) is that it inevitably causes a sh*t-flinging fest that is just unnecessary. The accused would of course want to defend/explain him-/herself and that will only lead to tempers flaring and harsh words. I know some (maybe even most?) people are able to keep a civil tone but that matters little in the long run. A thread like this will turn ugly pretty soon.

For the third and maybe best argument for this being a bad thread; will we be able to see through attempts to ruin someones reputation when it's just done in spite and not for a good reason? If a thread like this becomes an institution where you can come and vent your problems/dislike for people then pretty soon some innocent people will have their reputations severely damaged. In a game where you are as dependant on other people as in FFXI this is a devastating thing. Every mission, AF qeust and so on reqiures a lot of people working together. Experience is impossible to get if you're not a bst and so on and so forth.

The fact that a thread like this exists puts a damper on the whole forum and I would be happy to see it locked/deleted. As that is unlikely the next best thing would be that everone who posted in it would edit their posts to blanks. In all honesty, wouldn't it be more fun to have a thread that is two or more pages of just blank posts than a thread that's about this-or-that person sucks?

Oh, also, I never got 4mill from anyone. This thread isnt useful when you make stuff up. Thanks bossman.

Cant say I know any lamers. All i can say is that most of the posts here are bashing sweet, who has always been a good player and good friend to me if I needed help. Instead of posting gil quarrels here.... shouldnt ya'll stop and think about it? It's a game. Nothing more, nothing less. EVERYONE has a fair share of gil problems. EVERYONE has a fair share of friend problems, lamers or good players, they need to be treated as human.

Yes there are a few protocals to follow, however, if I got cheated out of gil, I would be mad yes, but that would make me work twice as hard to regain what I lost. You cant do anything about it so why stay mad? This is my game. I will play my game despite other people. I will not stay angry. I will not put anyone on my black list, but I will continue to make my friends list grow. If someone bothers you, ignore em. The more friends you have, the more chances you WILL get help when you need it. Thats all I have to say. There is no need to post and get angry becuase this isnt real life. Unless of course the game rules you. In that case you need professional help :p

Edited, Sat Nov 13 01:25:47 2004 by PhaseofRagnarok