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Hey, I was twelve at the time. I didn't see anything weird about being engaged to a fish either Spoilerand I still don't 0_-.

lolbuzzwords. Really, why would you use the same argument that people use on 4chan, which is to use words incorrectly. Kirito is not the male version of a Mary Sue, unless you want to create a new version of Mary Sue that removes some of the requirements.

Do you know what his special skill is? It isn't being awesome at the game. It's his ability to adapt, and his strong conviction. At the beginning of the game he had a one-up over many people because he played the beta test seriously. He knew the mechanics of the game and had practiced them for longer. Then we cut forward a month, and then keep moving forward. All the while he's spending more time fighting, by himself, more than any other person in the game.

Then in ALO he beats someone who has been the 'top fighter' for a game that's been out for a year, while he's been using the nervegear for over 2 years 24/7.

You're complaining that the person who started (insert anything) before anyone else, and put in more practice than anyone else, is better than those people. It doesn't make any logical sense. It just sounds whiny and childish; you're tunnel visioning because you didn't like the character or show from the get go. It'd be like me complaining that my friend is better than me at Japanese because over the past two years he spent more time studying than me and had a head start.


It's ridiculous to you because you refuse to acknowledge anything. Taking over people's minds? No. Figuring out and mapping out the mind so that it can be recreated and manipulated. And selling this information to the US military for a **** load of money.

Why is he in the videogame? Because Asuna is trapped in the video game. He can't interact with the object of his desire unless he's in the video game. It's a simple explanation that shouldn't even need to be made. Stop trying so hard to find faults that don't exist.


When someone dies they don't instantly get fried in the real world. If you need cited proof, see the revival item from santa that can revive someone within 10 seconds of dieing in game. If you're peeved that she wasn't fried within the ~30ish seconds from when she died then too ******* bad. You're peeved because mechanics don't work the way you incorrectly assumed they work. The clear game phase instructions overwrote the fry brain instructions when Kirito won because Kayaba isn't an evil ****.

Kirito "defying" the game mechanics to win was the ******* point. During the 10 seconds that you're still in game immediately after your hp reaches zero, he maintained his consciousness and moved his arm.

You've GMed PNP RP games before right? Have you never had your players win a fight that you had built with the expectations that they run away from it(with the plan to set up a villain for a later encounter) by doing something unexpected? Or perhaps due to some intervention by the random number gods?

If we throw out the running analogy, since the rules on that don't allow for much metagame to it, that leaves us with the games one. I could very well see someone who was an expert at SC winning a single battle in SC2 against a master player by managing to avoid playing to expectations, given a little time to learn the basics about the units. It depends a little on luck, like perhaps pulling out a strategy that no one expects because it only works if no one expects it and everyone used to expect it but this person wasn't expecting it this one time.

Having seen it now, I wouldn't be surprised if a second fight turned out differently once the element of surprise is lost. But there is a huge advantage to the unexpected. As I recall, the battle ended up fairly close.

Certainly. I think there are two differentiating factors. D&D is not a competitive game, and while there is a conflict occurring between the players and the DM, neither is trying to win so much as they are trying to have a good time. And no one beats the DM anyway.

That fight, and so many other situations just reek of contrivance. The girl he meets in ALo just happens to be his sister who also likes him, but they're not blood related so it's ok? That doesn't seemed like a forced situation? Having Asuna "die" valiantly defending him to provoke strong emotions from the viewer, but jk she's not actually dead? That doesn't seem contrived? Every female with screen time being attracted to him isn't contrived?

SAO just feels like a very fake world where the author knows what he wants to happen, but cannot imagine a realistic way for it to occur.

Poldy and Vataro already explained why your analogies and way of thinking are stupid, so I doubt I have to drive home that point. You had to gall to tell me I'm too enamored with SAO to see the flaws when I myself pointed out some that you didn't even remember. Meanwhile you're in the exact opposite corner blinded by your illogical hate for the show and characters.



So this guy leading an army needs to cross a bridge that's owned by his uncle, should be no probs right? But no, the uncle just so happens to have daughters and wants him to marry one. He reluctantly agrees. Immediately after some ***** shows up and he falls in love with her and gets married to her. Talk about forced situation amrite? Then one of the leaders in his army decides to kill some kids, and he has to be punished. Another sh*t forced situation amirite? Now he has to kill him, or he could just jail him for a while, but nah he's gotta kill him because HONOR. And because of that part of his army leaves him, and he has to go to the uncle again to get forces! More liked Forced forces amirite? And then he dies. Yet this was raved about as incredibly well written and "domino like".

News flash: "Forced Situations" is yet another buzzword. Every single situation in every fiction ever made is a forced situation. The fact that you're calling stuff forced means you went into it with hate already clouding up your mind.

If they do Phantom Bullet correctly it's going to be awesome, since that was the first light novel I felt was well written. But since you can't understand how somebody who's used an interface for over thrice as long as someone else could ever possibly be better at using that interface, I doubt you'll be able to enjoy anything. (Since he uses his past experiences and skills to beat other people, which you seem to have a problem with.)

Edited, Jun 27th 2013 11:11am by Deadgye

My experience is solely limited to the anime. I've read a bit of the wiki on the light novels, but not the materiel themselves.

Certain abnormalities are probably due to anime adaption. For example, Sugou has a giant poster of her character in her room (vain much?) that Kirito apparently never noticed. That seems like a detail that was storyboarded in by the anime production team, and probably not in the LN.

I know why it happened, I just felt the reason for why it happened is contrived. She gets to have a death scene, but not have the consequences of dying. You get your cake and eat it too.

You're certainly right in that regard.

I think I'm mostly just annoyed at how much of a let down I felt the series was. I like the concept of players being trapped in an MMORPG, and I believe it has potential. .hack//sign was a fairly terrible anime (from the eight episodes I watched), and so I was let down before. I wanted SAO to be so much more than it was, a below average shounen battle story with a setting that was more like high fantasy than MMORPG.

Edited, Jun 27th 2013 7:41pm by Allegory

According to some doujins, he's been in Sugou's room quite a number of times.

To be fair, the original SAO arc is horribly written. The author himself has even said he's slightly embarrassed by it iirc. With the short stories and progressive volumes he's trying to slowly rewrite it since it has so much potential. The reason it's so convoluted and quick is because there was a size limit on the competition he initially wrote SAO for. Half of what we saw in the anime about the SAO arc were side stories written after he wrote the original SAO arc.

You may actually like the Alicization arc of Sword Art Online though. It starts off insanely boring because new stuff is introduced for no raison and it''s like wtf is going on, but then it gets really good imo. And if you've watched or read Accel World at all (which I think is more well written than all his SAO stuff) you start to see similarities with mechanics since they share the same universe.