Does your loyalty lie with your hnmls or your social ls?Follow

pfff..i know wut u mean sleek..yea...that's why i kind stop myself getting in HNMLs...; ; friends are always more important for me ^^

oh...let me know if pan needs to unlock jobs...i can't share of bit of work ^^, definitely want to solo DRG job quest again and break the record lol..

thanks for the craft huh! :D

Well Sleek, I have a pretty strong opinion about this subject. I will not be joining an HNM/GODS LS, eventhough they began recruiting me as soon as I had Raise 3. I am completely commited to my social LS and have been since the day it started. In fact, that is why I haven't stopped in yours very much since Orefise gave me a pearl way back. My husband however, spends lots of time in his HNM LS, and it drives me crazy because I can't keep up with what is going on in ours.... but, Creep makes sure he does tons of stuff for our LS, he's always helping out. We recently merged with another LS and that has been so great because they are very helpful too. Anyone who is fortunate enough to end up in SlaughterHouse will love it.
For Creep an end-game ls is perfect. He loves all of the events that they do, and they seem to do them 24/7. They don't put pressure on him to be there. It is up to him and whether or not he gets points. I won't apply even though they are a really great bunch of folks. End game stuff just isn't for me.
My hope is that as our Social LS climbs higher and higher in levels we will become our own HNM/GODS LS. As it is we have many hi-levels, most of whom have known each other since the beginning. Maybe over time it will become like a family business. I couldn't imagine spending end-game events with better people... No applications necessary!

I dislike using the term "loyalty" when it comes to different linkshells. It makes them sound like gangs, or something.

"Either you're with us, or you're one of 'them'."

Get what I'm saying? I refuse to treat linkshells, or people, in that manner. And seeing how that's what a lot of HNMLSs like to do (they're all like goddamn soap operas), and that since now that I work I never have the time to do any real hardcore stuff except for like one day out of the week (Saturday), I've pretty much decided HNMLSs, or most endgame material for that matter, are really not for me anyway.

My friends go into HNM and Dynamis LSes all the time. Often it'll just be me sitting in my regular LS since they're always there.



It makes me sad since I decided that HNMs and Dynamis was just not for me, at least not yet :\.

I come from a social LS, I guess. Been in it the whole time. I've been offered or given pearls to many other shells, but I think I've kept only two of them in the long run, and even still, they just sit at the bottom of storage. I'm quite happy where I am ^^

If the only reason they're going to events is "for points", then they have bigger issues to deal with.

For me, my time has been cut back quite a bit due to a suprisingly difficult semester. As-is, I usually spend most of my time in my HNMLS, but whenever i'm not camping something it's a relief to be able to go back to my social LS and be able to talk to people who don't give two ***** about when the next (insert overcamped HNM) window is.

Ideally, the "best" HNMLS for someone would be both their social and end-game shells. For a lot of people, they are. But for 99% of the end game LS's out there, this feeling is almost impossible to achieve.

I say this is because he became a commodity lately. He is a very valuable member for such a group now, and was probably offered some absurd deal to join. Go him, I love to see my friends prosper, but HNMLS are tricky, as you can read a few pages on here and find out that there are many dirty underhanded thieves littering them.



It isn't. Think of it as friends vs in-laws. Your social is your friends, for the most part, you go to Hell and back with them(or at least I do), whereas an EGLS, you may have some people you like in them, they are more like your in-laws., IE people you have to tolerate for the greater good.



I take social LS off when I do a dynamis run, that's it.



Sad to say, it "is" kinda like that. You have a ton of rules/regulations before you can even join, most arent too fond of people that have multiple pearls, many pearls have either great names, or are blackballed because of stupid members ******** it all up for them.



It is this point that this game ceases to be a game. When you have to schedule things for a certain time, everyday, you suck the fun out of it. That means you are no longer allowed to choose your own path, you have become blinded by the tons of gil HNMs are bringing you, yet, with events everyday, when would one ever get to spend it?



Not entirely true. As he has to meet a certain point requirement before he can see the fruition of all these events. "If" I was insane enough to do it, I would do it as much to get my required out of the way. So I can't fault anyone for that. But no one tells me what pearl I can equip. Meaning if I am in an HNMLS party/alliance, and I have 17 people that are in HNMLS that can tell me if anything important goes down or is said, then I will switch to social and talk to the people that I hold in such high regard. I mean really, ask yourself, why are you constantly monopolizing HNMs, is it to get the item? Or to sell? It isnt the thrill of the hunt. Only nutjobs hunt NMs for the sake of hunting them. Is alienating your social LS worth a few million gil?

To answer? My loyalty lies with me, because everything I do begins and ends with me. And by aligning myself with me, and how my friends come first, I have to say that Social LS will always outweigh getting some super cool item, but dealing with a massive headache to do it.

Well put crim, i believe that if i was in the position to choose any LS over my Social LS I would side with my Social. Just the thought of leaving all the friends i have made, and all the people who have helped me not wanting anything in return, makes me sad. Like just this weekend i was given a shell to one of my RL friends LS's, but i told my him that i wouldnt be able to leave my shell for his. Its just not in me.

But, i don't think that i would turn down a shell that was going to get me lots of gil, or be apart of end game fights. I would still use my Social LS shell tho. I would say if i had a ENM shell or a GOD shell, time would be about 80% social, 20% other.

I'm sure ur friend will come around sleek. I just cant see him turning his back on all of his friends for another LS. Atleast I hope ^^

I am also in the same End-Game shell as Sleek and Belmont.
I find that everyone in the shell only equips it for siad-events makes things easier and you can go back to your social with your friends. There's no added stress of everyone talking about needing or wanting really bad such a such item. Also, like Belmont, I am the shellholder of my Social and love everyone in it. Some of the people I have in it are really good friends who just either aren't interested in end-game or not of level yet. I enjoy being able to still be in my social and hang with those who aren't in my end-game shell. Plus, there's no feeling of being obligated to go to some randomally scheduled event because your in the shell at the time.

It's kinda like going to work (end-game shell) and then when things are all done going back home (social shell). Who doesn't like to return home after a long day of work? It's basically seperating business and pleasure in game. Seems to work really well at that.

Ok...

Here is my question to you. Whether or not your feelings towards the person who wrote the OP are true or not. What gives you the right to come in flame flame him and attempt to hijack the thread?

If you read carefully, or even not so carefully, you will notice that the person who wrote the OP is not strictly talking about himself, nor seeking to gain anything. He is more posting his thoughts and feelings on a certain subject and curious as to what the rest of the Alla Lakshmi community thinks about it as well.

Please, to everyone else reading this, don't let this person hijack the thread into flame war. Just ignore it.

You obviously havent been reading anything that long, or you would know that the OP is one of the nicest people around. You want egotistical? Gimme a few minutes^^



Wow, you called that one, didnt ya? That's what happens when you bash someone like that. You want the truth? On these boards, your opinion means d*ck and sh*t. YOu dont just come here, create an account and bag someone and expect people to side with you.



I don't agree with you. I am biased towards neither, as both people are 2 of my closest "friends."



Truly you are a prophet, to have forseen this coming. Trust me, no one needs to defend anyone, if they(in this case Sleek) want to respond to you, they will. And maybe I can prevent it all because I prefer the negative feedback from people like you, which is why I am posting, to say what is probably going on in a few people's minds(not all, of course).



And that should prove that no one here hit your buzzer. It may be in your best interest to learn a bit about the people you feel inclined to spout off about.



Yes, Sleek is looking to advance himself at the expense of others. Keep in mind hero, Sleek is a 74 Thf, with a couple pieces of Assassins Gear(that's Relic Gear in case you don't know, aquired only by Dynamis). In no place in his post does he ask for anything, other than other people's opinions. That's what forums are for, buddy, posting opinions, and getting feedback.



And yet you know this, but you don't know Sleek, I find that odd.



Prophet, and philosopher, you are indeed a Da Vinci for our time......

Hmm... I would have to say HNM LS mostly.
As to why... I'm also one of the ones who try to show that I am dedicated (Well... I am unless Ridri manages to show up the only THF/SAM when it comes to Gods/Kirin.) Sometimes but very rarely, I would help out my EF LS members over events. As to Gods/Kirin run every Saturday, I have to pick that over trying to get a EF going (Sigh... Why won't everyone else entrust Redwolfe whenever I can't make it... ._.)

Mon-Sat: I'd switch between my HNM LS and my EF LS.
Wed and Sun: A hour or so before Dynamis starts, I would equip the pearl and go in away status (Must get slurpee refill...)
at the zone.

I'm the leader of a social shell. I also have another social pearl and a HNM/Gods pearl.

Since I am the shellholder of my social LS, I do feel guilty being out of it several nights a week participating in events with my HNM/Gods group. However, there is a strong leadership group in it as well as many members who consider it their home, and I am always confident that the existence of the shell doesn't rely on me being physically there all the time (..anymore).

I equip Gods/HNM for events only, spend 99% of the time around them in my own LS, and visit my other social shell once in a blue moon to let them know I'm alive or to help out.