Jeramiah Right is funny.Follow

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I think Wright's looking at the controversy as a way to make a name for himself nationally. It's certainly working. 6 months ago, he would not have gotten the chance to be a keynote speaker at the NAACP diner they had Sunday. Today, he's looking at speaking engagements, a book deal, probably gets product endorsements, who knows? I just kinda assumed he saw this as his payday, and really doesn't care how this affect Obama at all.

The argument is that Obama chose this church, therefore he presumably agreed with its precepts. Honestly, the posted 12-point value system of the church is really of far greater concern then the sermons themselves. It was never about how close the two men were personally.


Oh. And for those who aren't aware of the "12-point value system" Obama's church followed (and which presumably he must have known about having attended for 20 years):





Gee. This all looks like stuff a centrist candidate who's "above race" would commit his life to. Certainly, no one should have *any* concerns about Obama's positions on race at all, right?

It calls to question his entire stated position on the issue Smash. When his campaign says he's "above race", finding out that he's attended a church for 20 years that has (among others) the stated value to "Pledge allegiance to all Black leadership who espouse and embrace the Black Value System" should put huge warning flares up in most sane people's minds.


As an exercise in racial awareness, replace all instances of "black" in those 12 points with the word "white" and tell me exactly how far a political candidate would get if he'd attended a church with those posted values.


I thought the whole "ending racism" thing meant treating people the same regardless of skin color? Aren't we supposed to judge people by the "content of their character" and not the "color of their skin"? Strange set of values then, wouldn't you agree? And if you are ok with it, but not if Obama were white with a set of similar "white" values, aren't *you* being racist (treating him differently because of the color of his skin)?


I think so. And if we judge Obama by the "content of his character", we're left with a man who claims one thing to advance his political career, while pledging to something completely different in his private life. If you don't think that's significant, then you are far more politically blind then I already think you are...

Ok, I know this goes against the grain of the general attitude of this board, but upon first blush I am always willing to give the benefit of the doubt to pastors. The idea that Wright is selling out for money goes against what I believe is the reason people go into pastoring a church. Now I recognise that regardless of the profession there will always be someone who enters into any given field for personal gain. That being said, I don't think that is the norm or even close to being something other than rare.

I just don't see Wright doing this for personal gain despite anything that he may receive for his notoriety/fame. If anything, I think he might be doing this to further his agenda concerning blacks as a whole, even at the expense of Obama's presidency. Crazy as it might sound, Wright may be looking at the black community further down the road than merely four years of a black being Commander-in-Chief.

Counterintuitive, right? But perhaps from Wright's perspective this is an opportunity to highlight issues near and dear to his heart beyond a man who has already publically disavowed his teachings and belief structure. So what I'm saying is I have failed to see this through the eyes of a black man. Yeah, weird, I know. Maybe Wright has already written off Obama as having caved to White America in an attempt to make himself more palatable to the voters in the general election (in Wright's opinion).

Hmmmm.

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Maybe Wright has already written off Obama as having caved to White America in an attempt to make himself more palatable to the voters in the general election

Anyone with a pulse would have come to this conclusion before the caucus in Iowa.

Honestly though, that's not relevant. I could ask you the same question in reverse. What would be the worst thing you think could happen if a white candidate was elected who attended a church with the same stated positions reversed?

I wouldn't be bothered by it, at all. Well, I'd be bothered he was pretending to believe in an invisible man in the sky who watched over him, but beyond that, really not a factor to me. I guess I'd give him points for being honest instead of lying about his feelings towards race, maybe.

 
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I call shenanigans!!!!

And the president can do all that, right?

Not anymore than he could as a Senator, unless you're going to argue that he's more influential as president. Well whoop dee doo.

Not that it matters if your concerns aren't reflected in his policies.

Have someone with premium do a search for posts of yours in which you've called republicans "racist" for one reason or another if you want. I don't think I really have to...

Ah. So you just assume that everyone on the right is racist, so it's ok for folks on the left to be racist too? Two wrongs make a Wright, I guess...

"Anyone with a pulse would have come to this conclusion before the caucus in Iowa." --Smash

Except no one knew who Rev. Wright was in Iowa back in the fall. No, I think this is a recent decision on his part based on how Obama equivocated once those sermon sound bites came out in the news. There is no evidence that Wright planned this and was waiting for the most opportune moment to torpedo Barry's campaign. He just saw which way the political wind was blowing and realized that this is the time to make a move before the political spotlight found something else to focus on.

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Sure is fun to watch though.

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