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#1 Feb 25 2006 at 11:01 AM Rating: Default
a geeks wet dream.

wife has a part of the living room she wants to do something with. almost have her convinced to use it for familey entertainment. i make suggestions when the kids are home and on both computers making my point a little sharper.

picture this, a round wood table, fairly nice, with 4 living room type chairs. mabe the half moon deco type, or upholstered queen ann type sitting chairs around the table.

4 flat screen moniters with build in speakers, 4 wireless keyboards, with either build in mouse, or wireless mouse sitting in the center of the table facing each chair.

a credenza, or china cabinet base to house the 4 boxes, and some type of wood floor strip to cover the wires going to the table. mabe cut a hole in the center of the table to have the wires come up so they are not visible on the table.

kind of like a home video cafe type of thing.

then......three accounts for WoW, or mabe Vangard when it launches.

all for the kids ofcoarse.......
#2 Feb 25 2006 at 11:21 AM Rating: Good
You are the ultimate "oxymoran".

The illiterate nerd. Bravo!
#3 Feb 25 2006 at 12:08 PM Rating: Decent
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#6 Feb 25 2006 at 2:27 PM Rating: Excellent
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#7 Feb 25 2006 at 3:34 PM Rating: Good
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#9 Feb 26 2006 at 9:13 AM Rating: Good
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#10 Feb 26 2006 at 11:11 AM Rating: Good
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#11 Feb 26 2006 at 11:13 AM Rating: Default
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That's not a ******* computer, what are you trying to do here?


ummm...jerk

Edited, Sun Feb 26 11:16:12 2006 by Edra
#12 Feb 26 2006 at 11:23 AM Rating: Good
My BEAST!
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i see a small block chevy, aftermarket alluminum heads, holly carb with alluminum intake, billit or other brand harmonic ballencer, 9 quart or better oil pan, certainly with a high volume if not high pressure oil pump. high clearance valve covers, possible to house roller rockers with or without a back lash guard. high volum after market fuel pump.

not sure about the spacer plate under the carb, possibly for heat dissapation? waste of money their IMO, would have just bought an intake with a higher rise to it myself. would have gone with mechanicle secondaries on the carb too instead of vacume, but them again, it may be a mild build and not radical.

just guessing, and depending on cubic inch.....

350 ci / 350 to 400 hp
400 ci / 400 to 450 hp.

doesnt look beefy enough to go much higher than that. dont see a magnito system, cutom port work in the exhaust ports, rails or seloniods for nitro, and the wrong carb set up for alcohol fuel mixes.

good drop in project for a street rod.

Edited, Sun Feb 26 11:27:22 2006 by shadowrelm
#13 Feb 26 2006 at 12:00 PM Rating: Good
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I have to admit this gave me a *****. Theres something about that much chrome and polished aluminum that just revs my motor.
#14 Feb 26 2006 at 12:47 PM Rating: Decent
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At least he shops at summit. thats a point in my book right there.
#15 Feb 26 2006 at 12:54 PM Rating: Good
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My BEAST!



I'm astounded at your choice of calenders unless the truck in March has voluptious melons and perhaps a landing strip.

#16 Feb 27 2006 at 2:52 AM Rating: Good
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shadowrelm wrote:
My BEAST!
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i see a small block chevy, aftermarket alluminum heads, holly carb with alluminum intake, billit or other brand harmonic ballencer, 9 quart or better oil pan, certainly with a high volume if not high pressure oil pump. high clearance valve covers, possible to house roller rockers with or without a back lash guard. high volum after market fuel pump.

not sure about the spacer plate under the carb, possibly for heat dissapation? waste of money their IMO, would have just bought an intake with a higher rise to it myself. would have gone with mechanicle secondaries on the carb too instead of vacume, but them again, it may be a mild build and not radical.

just guessing, and depending on cubic inch.....

350 ci / 350 to 400 hp
400 ci / 400 to 450 hp.

doesnt look beefy enough to go much higher than that. dont see a magnito system, cutom port work in the exhaust ports, rails or seloniods for nitro, and the wrong carb set up for alcohol fuel mixes.

good drop in project for a street rod.

Edited, Sun Feb 26 11:27:22 2006 by shadowrelm



Heh, I thought I would catch a "car guy" if there was one...

The carb is made by "Quick Fuel" has mechanical secondaries, and is rated at 850 cfm. The spacer is there to tune for the space the nitrous plate will eventually take up.

The heads are Darts' Iron versions, with 230 cc runners and 2.08" intake valves. A bit more than a 355 needs in the air dept, but I may use them again on some larger displacement project.

The internals are all balanced Forged steel, with 4 bolt splayed mains, and the cam is of the solid lifter variety designed to make power from 3500 to 7500 rpm.

In the photo the heads and intake are just mocked up into place prior to the heads going to the machine shop. Still haven't decided which way to go as far as ignition. Since the car will see some light street duty, I will probably go with an MSD set up but who knows..

You are right, I am looking for 450hp+ without the nitrous.

I should be a board member at Summit with all I have spent there in the last year or so... I'll never grow up.
#17 Feb 27 2006 at 4:45 AM Rating: Decent
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Still haven't decided which way to go as far as ignition. Since the car will see some light street duty, I will probably go with an MSD set up but who knows..


After a bad experince with non MSD ignitions and them not working right out of the box, i'd strongly urge you to go with MSD, works on my supercharged camaro so im pretty sure it will work in your car as well.

Anyways, what car does this motor belong to anyway?

Edit: And yes, i shop summit too much also, but i think its money well spent.

Edited, Mon Feb 27 04:45:44 2006 by Darkenbudddy
#18 Feb 27 2006 at 1:40 PM Rating: Decent
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#19 Feb 28 2006 at 6:57 PM Rating: Default
The carb is made by "Quick Fuel" has mechanical secondaries, and is rated at 850 cfm. The spacer is there to tune for the space the nitrous plate will eventually take up.

The heads are Darts' Iron versions, with 230 cc runners and 2.08" intake valves. A bit more than a 355 needs in the air dept, but I may use them again on some larger displacement project.

The internals are all balanced Forged steel, with 4 bolt splayed mains, and the cam is of the solid lifter variety designed to make power from 3500 to 7500 rpm.
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for a 355 ci, i would have probably gone with a 700cfm, 750 tops. even with nitro. for the nitro, 2 stage seloniods are safer than a one stage with a spacer plate, but even with the spacer plate type, you can expect 100 to 150 more hp.

be carefull though. a leaky seloniod could blow the heads off your car. have seen it happen. check it often. if you have never played with it before, you should set it to open only in top gear, and only at full throttle. miss a gear with nitro, and you will be picking up pieces of your bottom end and transmission off the street. at least with the two stage seloniod, it is only open half way when you hit it at first, a small safety margine incase you mess up.

make sure it closes when you come off the throttle too. if you smell it after the car is turned off, DO NOT START THE CAR. fun stuff, but dicy to play with. most people just put the plate on with an empty bottle for show for the ohhs and ahhs.

had a set of dart heads on my 69 camaro ss. they work fine, i wouldnt port them. already more potential flow than you will be able to use on a small block.

MSD is better for street than magnito too. its idiot proof. gona eat some plugs though, and dont forget to get steel plug wires. the carbon ones just dont hold up long with the extra voltage. BTW, gona make your radio sound like crap. filters help, but not much.

if your gona run pump gas, im guessing 10:1 on the pistons at most. even then your gona need octain booster. given that, i dont see 450 hp, more like 400 tops. and with nitro, idealy, your better off with lower compression, like 8:1. given that, it is looking like 350 hp. on pump gass without the nitro, 450 to 500 on nitro.

put a small block 400 crank into your 350, and punch it out 60 over, you can get about 383 CI, you can get close to 450 on pump gass and have the torque of a big block. did that with an 85 vette once. just once.

also, if your running an automatic, think about a stall speed converter. with a power range between 3500 and 7000, it will help launch you to max torque faster off the line. will play hell on street tires though.

little side not some people dont think about. push rods. the alluminum ones you get from the factory will bend like a noodle at 7000 rpms. get titanium push rods. better safe than sorry. on the other hand, you get the timming off a bit, your titanium push rods will put a valve through a piston.

would go with gear drives for the timing set too. easier to set the timing that way and be sure. sounds kind of cool to boot. kind of like a blower the why it whines.

im sure you got locking rocker arm nuts, just remember to use locktite on them to boot. they vibrate loose some times.
#20 Feb 28 2006 at 7:50 PM Rating: Good
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Shadow, with all that obsolete knowledge available, you really should buy another one, and join me in reliving my teen years. There are actually quite a few of us left.

Darken, the engine is going into a 74 Nova.
#21 Mar 01 2006 at 8:52 PM Rating: Decent
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