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#27 Aug 29 2005 at 1:38 PM Rating: Decent
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#28 Aug 29 2005 at 1:50 PM Rating: Decent
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Where the hell do you guys keep coming from? Who kicked the anthill this time?


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#29 Aug 29 2005 at 2:11 PM Rating: Decent
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Oh, yay. So glad I just bought that truck with the 27 gallon tank in March.
#30 Aug 29 2005 at 2:13 PM Rating: Decent
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Oh, yay. So glad I just bought that truck with the 27 gallon tank in March.

The tank size doesn't really matter; what matters is the mileage. I can only assume a truck with that kind of capacity gets under 20mpg.
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You're so easy Gooosey.

How goes the driving? Feel like a big boy now?
#33 Aug 29 2005 at 4:03 PM Rating: Decent
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The tank size doesn't really matter; what matters is the mileage. I can only assume a truck with that kind of capacity gets under 20mpg.


Yep. F-150 here. 15-18 mpg. 20 miles to work 1 way. Luckily it's all highway. I will be able to save a mile or two per gallon soon when I go get my bed cover, but until then, ouch.
#34 Aug 29 2005 at 4:05 PM Rating: Good
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No the ppl that are crying are the fools with F-250's that run on unleaded gas,which is more than you'd think....


I'll supose you mean "Regular Unleaded" and not just unleaded. IIRC no cars need lead fuel. Some airplanes need Low Lead. As in 110LL (110 Octane, Low Lead). Not sure about boats.


That's not even completely correct either. It's just plain "regular". "unleaded" gas is gas with no/low lead content. Gas with lead is/was typically called "regular" (vs "unleaded" and "premium unleaded"). Some older engines do need the lead content, but if you own an older car/plane that does, you'll know it, and you'll buy lead additives for the gas.

Sometime about 15-20 years ago, most pumps replaced their "regular" gas with "mid-grade unleaded", leaving a standard three pump station with "regular", "mid-grade", and "premium", all of which are unleaded.

The bizarre part about the original statement is that not only is it completely irrelevant if he was correct (leaded fuel typically was cheaper then unleaded, not the other way around), but "regular" as used today (meaning "regular unleaded", the lowest octane unleaded gas at the station) is also the cheapest of the three standard unleaded grades of gasoline sold.

If he had said something like "The people who'll really be crying are those with bigger engines that require premium gasoline to run properly", he would have been on the money. But he got pretty much every single thing backwards...
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#35 Aug 29 2005 at 4:24 PM Rating: Decent
Gbaji's should have a new title it should be gbaji the nitpicker.

I basically said everything you said just forgot the word regular. I digress, It is more expensive to run a larger block truck on regular unleaded gas than it is to run the cars that usually require higher octane. For this reason alone, I own a Ford F-250 Fx4 and it gets about 9 miles to the gallon because it runs on regular unleaded NOT diesel. If it used diesel it would get 20ish.

The bigger engines for the most part never require higher then 87/89 octane fuel. With a few execptions some of those being the Hummer H2 reccommends you use a higher octane of 89/91. so Gbaji you once again are wrong.

See I said F-250 a model mostly universal Dodge is Ram 2500 and Chevy is just 2500. Those were the models I was reffering to which have diesel and non-diesel engines. I said unleaded gasoline because diesel is NOT unleaded it still contains lead thats why if you are a ****** and fill your car up with diesel you will ***** up your car.

It seems there are a few people here whom don't either A. read the whole post B. Don't understand it or C. Don't know jack sh*t about trucks and just pretended they do with some long banterous bullshyte
#36 Aug 29 2005 at 4:29 PM Rating: Decent
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At least 90% of gbaji's posts usually fall along the lines of C. You'll get used to it.
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See I said F-250 a model mostly universal Dodge is Ram 2500 and Chevy is just 2500. Those were the models I was reffering to which have diesel and non-diesel engines. I said unleaded gasoline because diesel is NOT unleaded it still contains lead thats why if you are a ****** and fill your car up with diesel you will ***** up your car.


So basically what you're really saying is that folks who don't own a diesel engine are going to be crying... Yeah. That was *soooooo* clear from your original post. Um... was anyone *not* talking about non-diesel fuel? Way to go with the irrelevant statment...

I read your whole post in the context it was written. It's not my fault that what you said made no sense whatsoever.

Um. And no. You are wrong. While a whole lot of idiots *think* that their high performance turbo sports engine must need premium gas (higher octane) in most cases they don't. The octane rating determines the rate of burn of the gas mixture. The *only* reason to purchase a higher octane gas is in larger cylinder engines where the physical size of the burn chamber can cause uneven burning of the fuel. This can lead to all the gas not burning off during the prime compression period of the stroke causing "knocking" of the engine (secondary burn basically). That *only* happens in larger engines, not smaller ones.

Typically, big V8 engines in luxury cars and trucks need premium. Again though that's dependant on the engine. You are correct that most trucks can get by without, but that's not due to size of engine but tuning and use of the vehicle itself. Work trucks are typically tuned for lower rpm and higher torque instead of the other way around. Go get a big V8 caddilac or buick and you'll need premium to keep the engine running properly at high rpm. Your typical 6 cylinder 2.8 or 3.1 liter engine most definately does *not* need premium, nor do you gain *any* benefit from purchasing it.
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#38 Aug 29 2005 at 5:00 PM Rating: Good
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Gbaji has a friend who worked in a gas station once thus he is fully qualified to ramble at length about the price of gas and everything else.

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#39 Aug 29 2005 at 5:01 PM Rating: Default
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Gbaji has a friend who worked in a gas station once


Who? Varus?
#40 Aug 29 2005 at 5:02 PM Rating: Good
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[quote=tonmaitre]The tank size doesn't really matter


That's what you think.

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#41 Aug 29 2005 at 5:10 PM Rating: Decent
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Gbaji has a friend who worked in a gas station once


Who? Varus?


Silly! Varrus owned Texaco at one point, why would he bother wasting his time working at his gas stations when he could be at the neighborhood courts polishing his free throws.
#42 Aug 31 2005 at 11:08 AM Rating: Good
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Just an update...

As you may (or may not) have heard, New Orleans and the surrounding areas are being completely abandoned. The fixing of the levies is proving to be near-imposible and the water levels are continuing to rise. Many, many of the people still trapped out there probably won't make it.

Not even the Superdome is safe as the thousands of people who sought refuge in it now trapped in with no electricity, holes in the roof, and 2 feet of water surrounding them. The government plans to use barges to get the 3000+ people in the Superdome to US Navy ships. From there, they will be taken to Houston where they will stay at the Astrodome,

I just heard from a local talk radio station (an affiliate of ABC news) that the price of gasoline was slated to raise again before the weekend. Unlike the last hike, the correspondent (not the host) quoted a $0.65-$1.10 rise depending on the type of fuel and the area you live in. I'm not certain if this is per gallon or per barrel, but considering the situation (and Labor Day around the corner) I'd wager that it's per gallon. I don't have a corresponding news article to back this up, but I will try to find one and post it on here.

In the mean time, please remember this info and send your prayers and support to those in the area. If you still haven't filled up, don't postpone. By this time next week it is possible to see $4/gallon gas.
#43 Aug 31 2005 at 11:11 AM Rating: Good
$3.09 in Cincinnati now.
#44 Aug 31 2005 at 11:13 AM Rating: Decent
$2.79 now in Wisconsin. Two days ago it was at $2.56.
#45 Aug 31 2005 at 11:14 AM Rating: Good
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$3.19 in Michigan as of 9am EST
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#46 Aug 31 2005 at 11:15 AM Rating: Good
Just got word (from a good source) to expect to see prices in West Michigan up to $3.54 by this afternoon.

Get it now if you can!
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#48 Aug 31 2005 at 11:17 AM Rating: Good
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Um. And no. You are wrong. While a whole lot of idiots *think* that their high performance turbo sports engine must need premium gas (higher octane) in most cases they don't. The octane rating determines the rate of burn of the gas mixture. The *only* reason to purchase a higher octane gas is in larger cylinder engines where the physical size of the burn chamber can cause uneven burning of the fuel. This can lead to all the gas not burning off during the prime compression period of the stroke causing "knocking" of the engine (secondary burn basically). That *only* happens in larger engines, not smaller ones.

Wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong.

Unless you think that the owner's manual stating that a Subaru WRX with a 2.0L, 4 cylinder, turbocharged engine requires premium octane is liberal media.


Edit: More examples. 5.9L Dodge Ram V-8 and 4.6L Mustang V-8 take regular. 3.2L BMW and 2.3L turbo Saab take premium.




Edited, Wed Aug 31 12:31:08 2005 by trickybeck
#49 Aug 31 2005 at 11:19 AM Rating: Decent
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$3.19 in Michigan as of 9am EST


Great I drive to Michigan tommorrow. I stopped buying cigarettes from there when I go and just get a carton from WI, but I think hauling around a gas can in my trunk from WI might be a little to extreme.
#50 Aug 31 2005 at 11:19 AM Rating: Good
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Um. And no. You are wrong. While a whole lot of idiots *think* that their high performance turbo sports engine must need premium gas (higher octane) in most cases they don't. The octane rating determines the rate of burn of the gas mixture. The *only* reason to purchase a higher octane gas is in larger cylinder engines where the physical size of the burn chamber can cause uneven burning of the fuel. This can lead to all the gas not burning off during the prime compression period of the stroke causing "knocking" of the engine (secondary burn basically). That *only* happens in larger engines, not smaller ones.


Actully, smaller engines with an extraordinarly high compression ratio like the car Tricky mentioned, do actually run much better, and require (as stated in the manuall) higher octane gasoline.

True, my 2000 Grand Am will not benefit at all from higher octane fuel, but Tricky's turbocharged rice burner sure will!

Edited, Wed Aug 31 12:24:55 2005 by Frakkor
#51 Aug 31 2005 at 11:20 AM Rating: Excellent
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One last thing, gas at a station here went up 12 cents yesterday. Dunno what it'll be this morning when I get to work. Gas cap tomorrow! I smell gas shortages and carpools for me!
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