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Our new HR director fixes Workman's Comp leechers by making a list of "Light Duty" jobs which are given to the Handler and the Doctors.

They then make the people come into work and do fairly annoying, menial work. Like sorting bolts in bins.

So rather than staying at home and getting paid, they have to come into work and be bored to death (Still doing work well within their doctor's limitations. This makes them heal faster, and be less likely to slack off and mooch off the system. He's even had places where they have set up some chairs in the break room and make the employees watch various saftey and operations videos and fill out questionaires. Anything to limit their time sitting around at home, still getting paid.


Maybe something to this effect could be applied to welfare. Why not mandate community service for those recieving welfare. X or Y hours per week. This way those that are recieving it for legitimate reasons continue to, and those that are trying to ride the system and not have to work suddenly have to do work in order to keep their free money, making it less appealing to the free riders.

Our new HR director fixes Workman's Comp leechers by making a list of "Light Duty" jobs which are given to the Handler and the Doctors.

They then make the people come into work and do fairly annoying, menial work. Like sorting bolts in bins.

So rather than staying at home and getting paid, they have to come into work and be bored to death (Still doing work well within their doctor's limitations. This makes them heal faster, and be less likely to slack off and mooch off the system. He's even had places where they have set up some chairs in the break room and make the employees watch various saftey and operations videos and fill out questionaires. Anything to limit their time sitting around at home, still getting paid.


Maybe something to this effect could be applied to welfare. Why not mandate community service for those recieving welfare. X or Y hours per week. This way those that are recieving it for legitimate reasons continue to, and those that are trying to ride the system and not have to work suddenly have to do work in order to keep their free money, making it less appealing to the free riders.

This is basically the system used in Germany. While it sounds great, it worsens the situation.

When you're on welfare for a certain time, you'll be put to work in addition to your welfare for €1.50 per hour. Mostly cleaning, factory work, and stuff in the social sector. The wage is paid by the welfare office.
The consequence? Various employers get people working for free, and those with any business sense prefer that over paid employees. Jobs (paid ones) are being eliminated.

We have two other "special programmes" that are vastly underpaid as well, and really, the only benefit is the unemployment statistics looking better.

I don't know if you've studied the new deal (I'm guessing yes, though) or **** Germany, but their public works programmes were actually pretty small and temporary. The point? It's actually quite hard to find people meaningful work to do in the way of public works.

I suppose if the sole aim is to annoy them, you could just get them to dig a hole and then fill it in the next. It would occupy time they were meant to be looking for work in (and use up a lot of additional resources), however, so it would probably be counter-productive. Plus, really easy to run a propoganda campaign against.

Edited, Jan 18th 2009 8:31pm by Kavekk

Why not limit the free labor to government jobs, like road side cleanup, painting public property, filing and sorting, etc...?

I think that if the government is going to hand out the "welfare labor" to private businesses, that it should be treated the same way as other "Manpower" companies. The private business will have to pay the government for the hours the welfare labor would work.

And can you actually debate something without being a condescending little sh*t? Are you that threatened by someone who thinks differently than you? I'm kind of tired of this sh*t lately.

Sure, blame it on my communication skills.

I don't know if you've studied the new deal (I'm guessing yes, though) or **** Germany, but their public works programmes were actually pretty small and temporary. The point? It's actually quite hard to find people meaningful work to do in the way of public works.

There was absolutely nothing intentionally condescending in that statement. I was simply recognizing the difference between your outlook on the situation and mine. It's not surprising, however, that you would view such a statement in a negative light. Seriously, Anna, your hypersensitivity is tiresome.

Well if that ain't the pot calling the @#%^ing kettle black...