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#77 Nov 28 2005 at 10:07 PM Rating: Good
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Slyde allow me to elaborate, the only problem with a PS2 HDD supportable model is the disc reading laser and tray malfunction. So while you state it could happen to a PS/PC/Xbox360, I am not going to defend the 360 but it doesn't have a disc tray that could get jammed like the PS2, so not comparable in that aspect.


Actually, lots of things could go wrong with a hard drive. Regardless of what kind of system it is on. Disc tray or not, hard drives are extremely fragile. This jammed issue you talk about is nothing compared to other things that can go wrong. So this had no point.

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o the "logic" in buying a new gaming system in the total amount of 450.00 is much more intelligent than you give credit for considering it's an upgrade regardless of how you spin it. But to just go out and "buy a PS2" again unless it's the slim model, is just buying another horse waiting to die. This would be one thing about the PS2 if Sony said "In someof the HDD models there is a chance of the disc tray jamming" instead they said "The older, larger PS22 model has disc reading issues that cannot be repaired indefinately in a feasible manner, instead a new PS2 will be released, and it does not support the HDD unit".


So, you are going to spend $450 and just forget about all your old PS2 games and accessories so you can plan maybe 9-10 games, tops currently on a new system? That is not logical. Now, if you honestly believe there are not more than 1 manufacturer of those HDD's that go into PS2's, then I don't know what to say, but laugh.

Also, this problem you speak of, can be repaired and it doesn't require you to replace your PS2. So yeah.

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And again on the whole "Slyde versus evil megacorp MS" angle, regardless of facts or not, it's just a videogame system, if the consumer chooses to let it program his/her toaster, thats their decision.


You are right, that is their decision. I can't tell people what to decide. I offered you guys education of Microsoft, and you guys still want a 360, really that is your own problem. Not mine. I wish you luck, because you will need it.

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I know my investment in an XBOX360 along with others will simply be due to the following:

Unknown pricing about the PS3 (Rumors of 599.99+)

XBOX will have FFXI whereas unless on a discontinued version of the PS2 or PC is the only means of playing it. The ps3 will not *ever*.

Its an upgrade for someone who's also catering to a game they love, sure XBOX might end up lacking in numerous ways in the game dept versus Sony, but it's a better solution than "Go out and buy a PC" or "Continually investing funds into a PS2 repairkit" once that model acts up. (Final one was an opinion with a sliver of fact)


That is perfectly fine. Actually, I kind of hope more people will buy 360's, maybe it will open their eyes. Since many of you don't know the truth of this corporation that you give your hard earned dollars to. GG nonetheless.
#78 Nov 28 2005 at 11:48 PM Rating: Decent
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Ohhh Nooo! I have to Jump to Xbox360s rescue! According to Zeik I am a "Xbox fanboy"!

Yeah, I could dig up enough info to prove that to make it's own thread.

As long as you're willing to admit it though. ^__^
#79 Nov 29 2005 at 12:07 AM Rating: Decent
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Yeah, I could dig up enough info to prove that to make it's own thread.

As long as you're willing to admit it though. ^__^


So Prove it please. Tell me how I personally feel about something seeing you are just that damn gifted. I wasnt aware I was a fanboy but since you insist it must be true!
#80 Nov 29 2005 at 12:47 AM Rating: Decent
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PS2 is sh*t, and has remained sh*t... No offense to PS2 players but this game looks like a somewhat decently polished **** for it. Sony dont get me wrong is a great company but you couldnt really compair PS2 graphics to Xbox's

While XBox can beat out PS2 on graphics, the opposite happens as well. Even the Gamecube has been able to beat out those two on some occasions (cutscenes in Resident Evil 4 for GC are real time, as opposed to the prerendered cutscenes in the PS2 version for example).

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Its dominant for the fact that it has more companies willing to contribute sequal titles to it for sheer success of the previous console. However quality as far as the consoles capabilities and status is concerned Xbox is the superior. That is my point.

XBox has a smaller game library compared to the PS2, mainly because of Microsoft's urge to completely leave out the Japanese market. Therefore, the PS2 is able to get more exclusive titles since it has both American and Japan support, namely for titles like Final Fantasy, Resident Evil, Disgaea, Xenosaga, etc. What's Microsoft got? Halo. That's it. And even that is questionable.

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FFXI is gonna run soo much better for Xbox360 than it currently does for PC its almost blasphemous for a FFXI player to even begin to bash it, unless out of envy ofcourse. I just feel bad for all those people that play FFXI for PS2..... my little brother included where the graphics are absolute sh*t.

This is just a moronic remark in general, especally provided by the fact that no one has even seen screenshots of the XBox 360 version (to my current knowledge).

If you don't wish to be called a fanboy, then I'd suggest you start making comments that don't lead people to believe so. This includes not spouting off innaccurate *********
#81 Nov 29 2005 at 12:53 AM Rating: Decent
Because its a fact that PS2 plays FFXI like poo, and PS2 graphics are Poo (which is one small argument on the grandscale) I am a fanboy?

Seriously go go listen to marilyn manson and cry about how your parents didnt buy you your favorite cereal this morning.. To which is most likely the count chocula cereal because you are soo busy labeling yourself a goth, and living a self obsessed morbid exsistance irrelevant to this world or society. Draw your little pictures and paint your fingernails you fishnet wearing ***** and continue to try to cope with the fact that noone likes (please do all of this while tying a tight noose) you and never will.
#82 Nov 29 2005 at 12:59 AM Rating: Decent
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One of the many rules of making an argument: opinions don't count as facts. Please try to keep this in mind. It makes you seem like less of an idiot.

Also, it doesn't help your image any better by accusing me of being goth. Do you even have anything to go on with that, or is it another futile attempt to make your e-***** seem bigger?

And for the record, my favorite cereal is Cheerios. ^__^

Edited, Tue Nov 29 01:11:32 2005 by Doboroo
#83 Nov 29 2005 at 1:03 AM Rating: Decent
Ahem!

Hey look. I draw Stuff. On your sig TY, GFY

I choose not to argue based upon fact because I dont like teen males that wear choke chains and make up both of which they picked up at the local hot topic to aid in the matters of "hating ones parents"

Edited, Tue Nov 29 01:14:11 2005 by EonsdarkCaitsith
#84 Nov 29 2005 at 1:09 AM Rating: Decent
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so I have a link in my sig. Yay. That doesn't mean jack squat. You still don't have any actual proof of any of that.

Sadly, you seem to be stuck in a world full of stereotypes. Stereotyping is bad, and won't get you very far on the social ladder. My suggestion: grow the **** up.

Edit because I love to ***** the hell out of this picture.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v55/DarkDays34/Other/pancake.jpg

Edit x2: Link was going screwy apparently. Fixed.

Edited, Tue Nov 29 01:41:00 2005 by Doboroo
#85 Nov 29 2005 at 2:30 AM Rating: Default
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This is just a moronic remark in general, especally provided by the fact that no one has even seen screenshots of the XBox 360 version (to my current knowledge).


Xbox 360 screens
<Please check it.>

*Edit*

Now, Id also like to point out that XI on the 360 is not harnessing the full power that the system has to offer. "It will run more like a top of the line PC." (something to those lines) Full article here: 1up (EGM) interview . Mind you, this is a interview with the folks that work on updates for XI on a continual basis.

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Xz, how the hell did you become a scholar?


I have no @#$%in clue. Hell you tell me. >_>

Edited, Tue Nov 29 03:09:17 2005 by XzeriosII
#86 Nov 29 2005 at 4:40 AM Rating: Good
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thats damn near close to what my pc looks like.. and i dont have to worry about it looking like *** cause i dont have an HDTV support.. ( like a good chuck of all ********** players will own a HDTV at this time.. )

i really dont think mom an dad are going to run out an get lil timmy an mary a new tv to harness HDTV...

as for the screens.. yea.. those are pretty good.. putting the game in full pwn visual mode.. most high end videocards.. can get super close to that... ( they wont cause of the fact there is no engine update for pc users..)

either way my x850 pwns the exbox because.. HL2.. WOW... and anything that is going to come out in the next year or so..

granted the machine is decent.. ( i say decent because i got one of the ones that isnt working well.. an im very pissy about the fact i couldnt play perfect dark 2 10 mins after getting home..)

either way... the sexbox360 isnt worth fighting over.. because its new.. people will flame you for flaming it..

all an all my experiance with it.. is 4/10... because only 2 games worth playing.. reminds me alot of the dreamcast... and.. its white.. looks like *** near my black tv..
#87 Nov 29 2005 at 6:01 AM Rating: Default
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all an all my experiance with it.. is 4/10... because only 2 games worth playing.. reminds me alot of the dreamcast... and.. its white.. looks like *** near my black tv..


hahaha, Revolution FTW.


An jus cause I prefer Nintendo over Sony: Sonys Revolution

*laughs*

*Edit: Found my @#$%in link problem, damn Alla for blirting my root files name! >:O*

Edited, Tue Nov 29 06:04:10 2005 by XzeriosII
#88 Nov 29 2005 at 6:09 AM Rating: Good
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I have never purchased anything from Sony/SonyAssociates that has broken or 'sucked' within 12 months of purchase. With the exception of "Turok XIX - DINOPHLEBOTOMIST". But I was -really- out of sorts at the time and it was like two dollars and seventy eight cents.

Everything I have ever purchased from Microsoft has either broken/crashed or become outdated scrap within a year.

Yeah, 360, sure.
It'll have maybe 10 good games in the next 5 years, all of which will eventually migrate to other systems or PC. Given that, and microsoft's track record for pushing ************* out the door and then 'fixing it later', I'll pass.

Unless of course they announce some hidden stable of game-designers they've genetically engineered in the basement of Building 15 of the Microsoft Compound/Thermonuclear Weapon Production Facility that contains the Council of Evil Global Headquarters/War Room/Neo-Military Training Camp and Day Spa inside which Bill Gates sits enthroned immortallity on a 5 story life-support device constructed entirely of gleaming-platinum and the gold-plated bones of Jesus which only continually sustains him if 55 and 1/2 pure-blood aryan children who have not yet borne pubic hair are sacrificed upon it's Altars once an hour until all 666 have been drained to sustain that which is GATES for another day. in which case I may be tempted to try one.

Always wait 6mo+ after release before you buy anything you intend to keep for longer than 3 months anyway. Otherwise you're just begging to get something with 'kinks'.

Edited, Tue Nov 29 06:23:11 2005 by icutyou
#89 Nov 29 2005 at 12:11 PM Rating: Decent
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"Turok XIX - DINOPHLEBOTOMIST"


Didn't Acclaim make Dinophlebotomist? Blame it on them, not Sony ;)
#90 Nov 29 2005 at 12:20 PM Rating: Good
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Ryle cant place blame well.. he has placement issues... Plus.. he pees in the sink.
#91 Nov 29 2005 at 6:17 PM Rating: Excellent
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I moved from the PS2 to the PC version because of timeouts (which I don't see on the PC) and lag (which I don't see on the PC).

I might try the XBox. I might even try the PS3. In both cases, though they need good/great FFXI support.

IBHalliwell - FFXI Forever! :)
#92 Nov 29 2005 at 6:59 PM Rating: Good
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I might try the XBox. I might even try the PS3. In both cases, though they need good/great FFXI support.


PS3 will have NO FFXI support, so you know. This leaves the PS2 HDD version/PC/XBOX360 left.
#93 Nov 29 2005 at 10:20 PM Rating: Good
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PS3 will have NO FFXI support, so you know. This leaves the PS2 HDD version/PC/XBOX360 left.


Where did you pull that out from Sindarek? All the articles I have seen says that SE hasn't made a final decision and won't until mid 2006 like the president of SE says in this article:

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/rpg/finalfantasy11/news.html?sid=6139901

So, before you continue telling people that they will never get it on PS3, read that first.
#94 Nov 30 2005 at 12:17 AM Rating: Good
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And Slyde before you present proof, do abit of research that doesn't create a blanket answer. That article does not touch the topic of FFXI coming to PS3. The concept of FFXI on the PS3 is not happening at this time because SE does not wish to convert the game to blue ray technology due to the cost effectiveness. Also it is not for certain if *all* games will be backwards compatible on the PS3 since FFXI is not a disc based game but instead purely downloaded and played from there.The idea is being kicked around for HDD based games to be converted to play, but they will not comment nor consider it at this time.

E3 interviews from last year Sony PS3 developer Kutaragi had stated the PS3 hard drive will not be meant for gaming purposes to the extend of downloading a whole game or even a fraction, it instead will be used for multimedia purposes instead such as internet/mp3/downloadable movies instead.

Source:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ps3

#95 Nov 30 2005 at 2:48 AM Rating: Default

wow people still having arguments about PS2 vs Xbox? XD

its like arguing wow my pentium 4 pc is so much better than your 486 IBM compatible lol

no duh xbox supposed to have better graphics when it came out 2-3 years later, thats a 6-8 generations of technology gap.

But newer technology doesnt make a better system though... just brute force. Xbox was poorly design in so many facets. Bad controllers, Bad cooling issue, so-so games even halo isnt all that its hyped up to be (any 1st person shooter is just as good on pc, if not better), xbox have bad opticals they tend to have problems reading the game disks after a few months, not to mention that thing is just damn ugly... so bulky with that ugly green... I wont put that thing with my entertainment setup even if you paid me. =P





Edited, Wed Nov 30 02:48:54 2005 by Telimek
#96 Nov 30 2005 at 3:03 AM Rating: Default
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PS3 HDD

Last I heard, PS3 game saves were gona be via Duo Pro sticks, same ones that the PSP runs on. That link was a nice breath of fresh air. As for XI on the PS3, no ones really came out an talked about it, but com'on. We all know that speach is comin. Hell, Id run down the main street here on base bare *** naked if they say theyll put it on the Revolution. >_>
#97 Nov 30 2005 at 9:48 AM Rating: Decent
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Meh, I honostly dont give a crap about what each system can do, just as long as the games kick ***, thats all that matters to me. Which ever system has better games, thats the system I will buy.

Until one of the consoles can jump up and give me a high five for everytime I beat a boss in the game, I honostly dont care what kind of inspector gadget crap it has.

#98 Nov 30 2005 at 9:50 AM Rating: Good
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And Slyde before you present proof, do abit of research that doesn't create a blanket answer. That article does not touch the topic of FFXI coming to PS3. The concept of FFXI on the PS3 is not happening at this time because SE does not wish to convert the game to blue ray technology due to the cost effectiveness. Also it is not for certain if *all* games will be backwards compatible on the PS3 since FFXI is not a disc based game but instead purely downloaded and played from there.The idea is being kicked around for HDD based games to be converted to play, but they will not comment nor consider it at this time.


Dude, the link I provided said the president of SE hasn't made his decision. How dense are you? I am done in this discussion. You don't read and you *think* you know more than you do. Sorry. I am done.
#99 Nov 30 2005 at 10:55 AM Rating: Decent
So, the makers of Mindows ME make a console and everyone acts surprised when its borked?

Microsoft is one of the worst companies around. They're a bunch of overpaid codemonkeys that wouldn't discipline their own development to save their own lives. Microsoft is synonimous with "gravy train".. Who the ufck buys an Xbox anyways? 20million user last gen dumb enough to jump on board.. If that number increases over this generation then I weep for humanity.
#100 Nov 30 2005 at 11:30 AM Rating: Decent
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#101 Dec 01 2005 at 9:23 PM Rating: Good
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