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#1 Dec 01 2006 at 4:06 PM Rating: Default
ok, i was going to post this in a different place but it is off topic:

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Well, I'm the only one I personally know who plays this game, and I don't relish trying to make friends 13 yr olds just to do instances...


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I know lots of people who play the game RL, and they are all older than me. Im 23. If that says anything. But i really dont associate with people under the age of 20. Does that count?


Ok, whats so wrong about being a teenager and playing this game, and if thats not what your saying whats so wrong about playing WITH teenagers. When i first came to WoW I joined a guild with someone from a website forum(not this one). So after experimenting with different things and such i finally stuck with my Dwarf Hunter. Once he was about level 20 the friend remade the guild. I didnt really care and so i went along and submitted for the new site and everything. For some reason it said when registering if your not 25 or older your not allowed in. I went into the game later and told him. Since I am 14 he wouldnt let me join. I was a bit miffed about this, I don't really care about it but seeing SO MANY people saying things like "if you have a female NE your a 13 year old kid" and just a generalization of age. I know I am not the only mature teen-WoWer, i was just playing with a 10 year old not to long ago and I didn't care!!!

Sorry for no paragraph break but i was on a roll of annoyance XD

heres the link to that post BTW:
http://wow.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=21;mid=1163785222255821793;num=15;page=1
#2 Dec 01 2006 at 4:17 PM Rating: Default
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Basically it's going to boil down to this:

Older players (20-21+) are going to be a lot more mature while playing, are going to be more civil, and stable. They usually have schedules at work that do not change, thus allowing them ample or available play time to schedule raids/instances etc. And (if you're young don't take this the wrong way) older players tend to just plain be far more serious about the game. Winning > Having fun.

Younger players (12-19 especially) are still immature, yes I said it, and I was immature too, don't lie to yourselves. When you get angry you yell, scream and cry because everything didn't go your way. You tend to break keyboards and computer screens when enraged. Your schedules are going to change because of work/school/girlfriends and whatever else so you have no scheduled playtime. Younger players also tend to "up and leave" whenever they have the opportunity claiming "afk" or otherwise (Wife or sex aggro i can understand~ that doesn't count) Younger players also tend not to understand the concept of teamwork and often play only to be better than everyone else and then flaunt it.

This is just a generalization. It's exactly how i played a few years ago and why my wall has a few black marks from hand -> ps2 paddle -> wall. I'd much rather now be smarter about how I play, and why i'd imagine more younger players are DPS kings (hunters, rogues) then mages or healers.
#3 Dec 01 2006 at 4:26 PM Rating: Decent
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I couldn't consider other people age less in WoW. If I do PuG (which is rare nowadays) I don't ask for age rather look on skill and behaviour of other members. If they don't know how to play or are a$$holes (omg, coded 1337speak) I mostly leave the party asap.
Met some 30ish old gamers who had 3lvl60 characters and were not only crap players but arrogant jerks as well.
On the other side I met some 13-15years old who were at great players and nice persons to talk with.

It really doesn't matter if statisticaly taken older is more mature, because you have to consider persons from fall to fall not like number in statistic.

Edit: Grammar and spelling.

Edited, Dec 1st 2006 7:32pm by Huhulak
#4 Dec 01 2006 at 4:26 PM Rating: Good
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sex aggro


Are you suggesting that people that play WoW get sex so infrequently that they must jump on all opportunities to get some? Smiley: lol
#5 Dec 01 2006 at 4:28 PM Rating: Default
Let's see..I'm 24..

I (soon as I get home) will be starting WoW and told myself I didn't want to join a guild who didn't have a ruleset of 18+ (some exceptions apply) but most teenagers to be honest with you are FLAT OUT annoying to listen to on Ventrillo, not to mention they tend be greedy because they want to be "uber". Fortunately for me I'll be playong on Gnomeregan and I've already seen 2 guild recruitments in the past week accepting only mature players, this isn't to say a 16 year old can't be mature, but 9/10 times they aren't, not to mention most teenagers aren't loyal. Let's be honest..what am I going to converse with a 16 year old about? Thank god though nowadays more and more players that are gaming are in the 18+ bracket. When I played UO when I was 17/18 I played with quite a few guys who were 20-35. If you are under 18 and can have a conversation without using retarded spelling and are helpful I honestly don't care.

Edited, Dec 1st 2006 7:33pm by Wysh
#6 Dec 01 2006 at 4:30 PM Rating: Default
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Grandmother baelnic wrote:
Are you suggesting that people that play WoW get sex so infrequently that they must jump on all opportunities to get some?


Lol. What i'm saying is that even the proudest man who playest very little Warcraft would be an idiot NOT to afk for sex aggro.
#7 Dec 01 2006 at 4:34 PM Rating: Excellent
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Are you suggesting that people that play WoW get sex so infrequently that they must jump on all opportunities to get some?


You know you have been playing MMO's too long when your girlfreind's pants become a "rare" drop.
#8 Dec 01 2006 at 4:40 PM Rating: Good
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You know you have been playing MMO's too long when your girlfreind's pants become a "rare" drop.


In this case "Rare" is still better than Legendary and infinitly better than Unique!
#9 Dec 01 2006 at 4:46 PM Rating: Good
Ok, well this isnt helping my annoyance ><
If i ever start a guild i will name it DNG
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I will happily accept that some of you think some teens are immature morons(i know a few) but like someone said theyve met 35 jerks and 16 yr old mature people. I just don't like it when i say my age that people automatically don't like me, don't want to cooperate with me, and don't want to even SEE me. I mean cmon, whose more mature now, the person not generalizing and thinking of how that person really acts, or the person that thinks that the majority of 'kids' are immature annoyances?

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You know you have been playing MMO's too long when your girlfreind's pants become a "rare" drop


I laughed on that one :)

Edited, Dec 1st 2006 7:49pm by milconfive
#10 Dec 01 2006 at 5:07 PM Rating: Decent
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Basically the way I see it is every age grouping has immature people in it. The younger age bracket has more of an abundance of immature people. Just face it some of you are really immature. But the same goes for other age groups also. Just look at what someone about the 35 year old a$$hats.

Heck even my 80 year old grandpa is immature. He'll throw food at me and my friend when we walk through the door because he thinks its funny. Wow some humor he has.

If your grouped with someone immature just leave the group and get over it. For the OP people are going to have their opinions and be hard headed about them. In my eyes they are just missing out on what younger players (you) have to offer b/c not every younger person is immature.

Just my 2 cents.
#11 Dec 01 2006 at 5:20 PM Rating: Default
Just because you are an "asshat" like someone referred to the 35 year old guy doesn't really make you immature. He more then likely didn't want to be bothered by some teenager. On the other hand I'll give anyone a chance..just speak to me like a person and not some tard who can't type correctly, and try not "LOL'n" after everything you say. Hey..I used to do it back in the days..the UO days..*drools*.
#12 Dec 01 2006 at 6:37 PM Rating: Good
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Ok, whats so wrong about being a teenager and playing this game, and if thats not what your saying whats so wrong about playing WITH teenagers.


What's "wrong" about playing *with* any particular group is that it is a matter of personal choice. The choice that your quotes highlight is a preference for who the posters wish to associate with. They don't have to associate with anyone they don't want to, but in the case of first quote notice the phrase "just to do instances." In other words, going back to that thread's topic, the poster wanted to know if he could get to 60 solo, or would the game's mechanics force him to group with people he didn't really want to?

Urk! I've read "10 is the new 15" and perhaps for some matters it is. To lol at a sexual joke is fine, you might even drink beer depending on where you are, you could even have some form of part time job ... you still have rather little in common with the college crowd, and less in common with those older. Your dates are not their dates, you're unlikely to frequent the same bars, and your work environment has little more than a superficial kinship to theirs. You live in a structured environment of classrooms and activities that is foreign to me -- nor would it be what I experienced at your age, in '74, when you knew the other side were Germans because the counters on the board were afflicted with Pink Panzer syndrome. If you didn't get that joke, that highlights my point. We will tend to see things though different filters.

As a game player, you are probably far better than I am. As a choice to burn through a raid, you would probably be a far better choice than I to group with. As a person to talk to during a long grind though, you're a bit short on life experiences. Whether it offends you or not, people have the right to choose who they talk to. If their criteria include things like "must be of an age that can legally marry and/or enter a bar" that's up to them.

A final observation comes to mind. Words are often used casually, with unfortunate results. Immature is "not ripe yet" and not quite the same as "acts like a jerk" although the distinction is often overlooked -- as is the distinction between ignorant and stupid. There are jerks of all ages, and the condition seems to be impossible to cure; however, immaturity (in the technical sense) often responds to the application of several years of experience.
#13 Dec 01 2006 at 6:40 PM Rating: Default
I think teenagers have more "flexible" schedules especially the ones who prefer sitting near computer the whole daying and playing WoW. Skipping school, that's the answer. I am a teenager myself, I had never being mistacen for some immature, I get angry, I get happy from to time and people still respect as a well mature and a dedicated player. I had met tons of teenagers who are only like 16-18 and progresssed at game and were much better than the players who were 25+, although age doesn't help that much in video games lol.
#15 Dec 01 2006 at 7:49 PM Rating: Default
30 year olds can be just as immature as 14 year olds. Though it just depends on the person. Oh yeah, except for Hunters, their all ************

Edited, Dec 1st 2006 11:20pm by Trunksbrando
#16 Dec 01 2006 at 8:12 PM Rating: Good
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I couldn't care less what peoples' ages are in the game. If they act stupid, I just ignore them. If they're fun to hang out with/talk to, then great. There's one guy I partied with and talked to for a long time and then he said he was 14.

*shrugs*

It doesn't bother me in the slightest.
#17 Dec 01 2006 at 8:16 PM Rating: Decent
I enjoy playing with all ages. However, I have a hard time believing that the lvl 12 character begging "please, please, let's do deadmines. I'm not too low, I did it at lvl 10. Awww, cmon, why wont anyone play with me" isn't a kid. At least they are acting like one. I'm all for a younger person acting in a mature manor and taking his responsibilities seriously. I never hesitate to group with a player because of age alone. Their actions govern whether they will see me again.

At age 53, I reserve the right to consider myself a mature player. I don't think it is unreasonable to want to play with those who at least act mature. Although I wouldn't want my guild to impose an age requirement, I can understand and support the right of a guild to do so. I personally wouldn't join it.
#18 Dec 02 2006 at 1:18 AM Rating: Decent
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I can tell you right now im 22 and im still immature....when its appropriate.

Their are certain times when its ok but alot of the time its just plain annoying. Ventrilo is not the place for high pitched voices, and talk about pokemon.
#19 Dec 02 2006 at 1:24 AM Rating: Good
Hmmm. Age on the internet is a neutral concept. You are as old as you appear to be. If you come across as an immature individual, then you are a 13-year old (your actual age doesn't matter). If you come across as a mature person, then you are an adult (again, your real age doesn't matter). You can't tell a person's true age from how he acts, only his apparent age.
#20 Dec 02 2006 at 7:44 AM Rating: Default
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Well, I don't know why people are so closed minded about this. I don't **** and moan if something doesn't go the way I planned. I just say "Bah!" and move on. In fact, I've known many more older people that whine on and on if something didn't go right, even if they were the one that messed up. I'm only 15 and have been more mature than many older guys in various situations...so I don't get it.

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Winning > Having fun.


The last time I checked, the point of playing games was to have fun. But hey, what do I know? I'm just a kid.
#21 Dec 02 2006 at 7:50 AM Rating: Decent
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I'm over 50, and can assure you all that "maturity" is not the sole province of mere age. I'll group and chat with anyone, so long as they are polite and type in complete words - I despise 'leet-speak' and affectations such as "plz" and also (shudder) non-stop typing with capslock on.
#22 Dec 02 2006 at 8:31 AM Rating: Decent
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Wafflies wrote:
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Winning > Having fun.


The last time I checked, the point of playing games was to have fun. But hey, what do I know? I'm just a kid.


I'd probably say Winning = Having fun.
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#23 Dec 02 2006 at 8:44 AM Rating: Decent
I left a guild because there were 11 y/os in it.

I do not socilize with pre tens and teens in real life. Im not going to do it in game either.

If I join another guild and they have anyone under 16. I will leave. But, they are few and far between. So I might just remain guildless.
#24 Dec 02 2006 at 9:14 AM Rating: Default
I have to admit there are times when I am a total idiot on WoW, not because I naturally am but because I dont feel like being respectful. Sometimes I just let loose and act stupid or say stupid shi*t. But when it comes time to be serious is when your with others, such as in BG's or Instances, acting foolishly will cause your team to lose and get you kicked out and probably never grouped with again.

Edited, Dec 2nd 2006 12:18pm by Trunksbrando
#25 Dec 02 2006 at 9:42 AM Rating: Default
I'm 14 and have a 64 year old friend in-game. Probably going to run a backround check on him :). Anyway, I think that different age groups may have more in common than they think, and that before dissmising any thought of talking to a kid, they should give it a try. Whats the worst that can happen? They end up on your ignore list.
#26 Dec 02 2006 at 9:45 AM Rating: Good
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I left a guild because there were 11 y/os in it.

I do not socilize with pre tens and teens in real life. Im not going to do it in game either.

If I join another guild and they have anyone under 16. I will leave. But, they are few and far between. So I might just remain guildless.


It's sad that you will set such an arbitrary limitation on who you will group/guild with. I'm 29, and there's a 15 year old in the guild I'm in. Actually there's a few of 'em. As long as they do their job, and respect their fellow players, I don't care if they're 7 years old, they'd be an asset. I've seen so many "adults" that are so whiney, immature and just outright stupid that I have zero confidence that just because someone is over a certain age that they're instantly worthy.

I've also seen far too many teenagers that truely ARE not just an asset to the guild, and are good people to be around, that I won't lay such absolutes as "I will never be in a guild with you" just because of their age. Now, it's true, the generalizations exist because, in general, they are true. However, there are lots of exceptions.




How old are you? Doesn't matter nearly as much as the true question.

How old do you act?
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