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#1 Nov 28 2006 at 8:20 AM Rating: Decent
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When I open the launcher I get the "data for next patch is available. Download will start after you exit WoW" message.

I've been getting the message for a few days, yet I haven't got any indication that anything has been downloaded.

Does that message go away once the data is downloaded?
If not, how do I know if I have it yet?
If so, what can I do to get it?
#2 Nov 28 2006 at 8:28 AM Rating: Good
Go into the folder where WoW is installed* and see if there is a folder called WoW-1.12.x-to-2.0.1-enUS-patch.

Look in this folder and see if you have 2 files:
wow-partial-1.MPQ <-----35.8MB
wow-partial-2.MPQ <----432.0MB

If you don't have that folder or don't have those 2 files that size in the folder, run the file named BackgroundDownloader.exe in that main WoW folder to download the patch (it takes awhile)



Default directory for wow is:
C:\Program Files\World of Warcraft\


Edited, Nov 28th 2006 11:35am by jpaugh

Edited, Nov 28th 2006 11:36am by jpaugh
#3 Nov 28 2006 at 8:29 AM Rating: Decent
Grollog wrote:
If so, what can I do to get it?


The Not-So-Good Wow Background Downloader wrote:
"Download will start after you exit WoW"


^.~

Just go into WoW, and exit, and the download will start. But its murderly slow.

Yes, I just made that word out of thin air
#4 Nov 28 2006 at 8:44 AM Rating: Good
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Yes, I just made that word out of thin air

Try murderously. Works better.
#5 Nov 28 2006 at 12:20 PM Rating: Decent
I always find that it locks up my pc and i have to reboot. First patch i downloaded off of filefront
#6 Nov 28 2006 at 1:53 PM Rating: Decent
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It's just a pre-patch, so it's not really required. It will make it faster when the patch actually comes out, though...

And the downloader is slow because it's a BitTorrent style application. BTs are always slow, but they're nice because you don't need anywhere as much hosting and bandwidth as for a traditional download.
#7 Nov 28 2006 at 3:53 PM Rating: Good
The launcher options let you pick whether the background downloader operates when wow starts, exits, or both. Since you are downloading when wow exits, you will see a little blue blizzard icon next to your clock in the taskbar when it is running. Clicking on the icon when it shows up next to the clock will maximize its window showing the downloader screen and the percentage done.
#8 Nov 28 2006 at 4:45 PM Rating: Good
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The launcher options let you pick whether the background downloader operates when wow starts, exits, or both.


Thats a good tip thanks. I keep forgetting to leave my PC on to let the thing finish overnight. At least if its trickling in while I play it may finish....someday....maybe.....
#9 Nov 28 2006 at 4:53 PM Rating: Decent
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Also, in your WorldOfWarcraft directory there should be a folder called "Cache". In here is a torrent file that you can open in your preffered BT downloader (Azurous? Something like that) and download the prepatch faster. Just put the folder you download into your worldofwarcraft directory, and start up the background DL so it can verify the file to make sure it's in the right place.

Took me about 6 hours to DL it using another program, and got 5% in 3 days using the BG downloader :-)
#10 Nov 29 2006 at 12:58 AM Rating: Decent
This last patch is big problem to download by their downloader is there some mirror where i can download it?
#11 Nov 29 2006 at 5:32 AM Rating: Decent
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If you are having a slow download of these patches WoW Patch Download Slow Try this

Now note that if you have Two computers on a router you will have to open the ports up to each one, ONE at a time or you may run into issues. I did this (because I was having horrible DL speeds (just for this patch but that is a diffrent story) and when I opened up the ports to my computer I got it downloaded in about 10 minutes.

Give it a shot and let us know if it helped you out also.
#12 Nov 29 2006 at 5:38 AM Rating: Decent
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Well, mine just has never started. It's set to start after exit, but I've exited the game many times since the message came out and I've still not got anything. For whatever reason, it's not starting.
#13 Nov 29 2006 at 6:09 AM Rating: Decent
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Grollog wrote:
Well, mine just has never started. It's set to start after exit, but I've exited the game many times since the message came out and I've still not got anything. For whatever reason, it's not starting.


I noticed when I exited WoW that I got an additional Mini Icon in the Icon try (Blue box with a Tornado in in) and this was the Downloader trying to work. Check to see if that is there.
#14 Nov 29 2006 at 7:44 PM Rating: Decent
Baron, you look like you’re on to something that can help me out, so any advice would be much appreciated.

I run 2 computers with 2 sets of WoW using the same cable connection and my Linksys router.

One computer, using Windows Firewall is connected to the router by cable, and the second computer using McAfee firewall is connected wirelessly.

For both of them, I had followed instructions on Blizzard’s website on how to open the ports with regards the firewalls.

Blizzard did not have instructions for my router, but theier website referred me to
http://www.portforward.com/

Where I followed their instructions on how to configure my router for the download.

So I followed their instructions and assigned static IP addresses for both my computers, and then configured the port opening on the router for BOTH Ips.

And then I have them both downloading at the same time.

And still I get ‘It appears that you’re behind a firewall’.

Could this be causing the problem you referred to when saying ‘Now note that if you have Two computers on a router you will have to open the ports up to each one, ONE at a time or you may run into issues.’

Help much appreciated, thank you.
#15 Nov 30 2006 at 3:50 AM Rating: Decent
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tecktopg wrote:
Baron, you look like you’re on to something that can help me out, so any advice would be much appreciated.

I run 2 computers with 2 sets of WoW using the same cable connection and my Linksys router.

One computer, using Windows Firewall is connected to the router by cable, and the second computer using McAfee firewall is connected wirelessly.

For both of them, I had followed instructions on Blizzard’s website on how to open the ports with regards the firewalls.

Blizzard did not have instructions for my router, but theier website referred me to
http://www.portforward.com/

Where I followed their instructions on how to configure my router for the download.

So I followed their instructions and assigned static IP addresses for both my computers, and then configured the port opening on the router for BOTH Ips.

And then I have them both downloading at the same time.

And still I get ‘It appears that you’re behind a firewall’.

Could this be causing the problem you referred to when saying ‘Now note that if you have Two computers on a router you will have to open the ports up to each one, ONE at a time or you may run into issues.’

Help much appreciated, thank you.


Well if you got your computers downloading the patch then ignore the "It appears that you're behind a firewall " warning. I still get that warning from time to time and I have all my firewall settings turned off computer wise (just to test this out). I think it is from your ISPs' firewall settings (which it can be) but I can not be for sure as the Time Warner techs I talk to seem to be more confused about it then I'm.

But if you have not completed the downloads, then try just setting up one computer at a time. Download the patch to the computer you have the ports open to then change the settings to the second computer. After I completed both downloads I set my router back to NO port fowarding at all and I have not run into any WoW connection issues.

Good luck.
#16 Nov 30 2006 at 10:05 AM Rating: Decent
I have changed it so that only one computer is downloading and am glad to say that it works. NO more firewall warning.

Still kinda slow, but still heck of a lot faster than when I had the firewall problem.

Thnaks alot!
#17 Nov 30 2006 at 10:40 AM Rating: Decent
Ok,
I have McAfee and have all the ports matching the WoW help page. After getting the new downloader, the first time it tried to patch after i logged, it got to 10% and then stopped with the warning "...behind a firewall...". I checked again and everything matches Wows settings. Next time I got to 15% and then last night i got to 20% before the warning. I cant believe I need to try 8 more times. Is anyone else having this trouble?
#18 Nov 30 2006 at 10:50 AM Rating: Good
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I let mine download while playing the game (and while not playing too) and I didn't notice any change in the quality of the game. It downloaded really slow and had the 'firewall' message constantly but I just let it go and didn't shut off (hibernate) my computer when going to bed. It eventually finished after more than a day. I didn't try messing with the router (especially since I never asked the boyfriend what he uses for a password.)


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Does that message go away once the data is downloaded?


The message went away for me after it finally finished downloading.
#19 Nov 30 2006 at 10:57 AM Rating: Good
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Rykhorne wrote:
It's just a pre-patch, so it's not really required. It will make it faster when the patch actually comes out, though...

And the downloader is slow because it's a BitTorrent style application. BTs are always slow, but they're nice because you don't need anywhere as much hosting and bandwidth as for a traditional download.


Actually, torrents can either be slow or very fast. The problem with the blizzard one is mostly that the BT client is SO butchered that it just sucks. With DSL, having an un-capped upload will vastly slow you down, and even cable to an extent suffers from that. Guess what part of the blizzard butchering is.... yep, un-capped upload speed. Think of it this way... you're walking down a narrow street and there is a HUGE crowd in front of you walking TOWARDS you. Are you going to be able to keep going at the same pace? The same thign holds true for your net connection. Everything (or a good deal of it) is being used to send OUT the info (people walking towards you) so the data coming in (you walking forward) slows down a LOT.

Another thing that slows down blizzard system is inherient in ANY download system. YOU try getting millions of people a 400+ meg file AT ROUGHLY THE SAME TIME and tell me how it goes. Most of the time (despite the butchering) the downloader is pretty decent. However, on patch days it slows down a lot. Also, another problem (more with the torrent system though) is that as a patch/pre-patch gets completed for more people they STOP using the downloader, which effectively removes one whole copy of the file from the network, which makes it so others get it even slower. Since torrents are a P2P file sharing, they only work the best if everyone who downloads 400 megs UPLOADS 400 megs or more. Also, if no one has the completed file yet, well no one else can complete it because no peer has the whole file to send out. (Keep in mind torrents are broken into many smaller pieces to make it easier to send) Blizzard does have a DD system however tied into the downloader which will always a keep a full copy,
but that is still getting hammered by the millions of people.


Huttj wrote:
Also, in your WorldOfWarcraft directory there should be a folder called "Cache". In here is a torrent file that you can open in your preffered BT downloader (Azurous? Something like that) and download the prepatch faster. Just put the folder you download into your worldofwarcraft directory, and start up the background DL so it can verify the file to make sure it's in the right place.

Took me about 6 hours to DL it using another program, and got 5% in 3 days using the BG downloader :-)


That is very nice to know, one of my big complaints about the downloader is just how butchered it is, and being able to have an actually torrent to open in something like Azureus or uTorrent or something helps oh so much. Not that I still wont be downloading patches from alla or fileplanet though, although torrents can be fast (i've downloaded gigs of info in less then 6 hours before in a well-seeded torrent.. and 2-3 hours for a gig isn't that far off either for me personally, and my net connection is a little on the SLOW side), normally the blizzard ones will go slow because of the sheer amount of people hammering the system.
#20 Nov 30 2006 at 11:05 AM Rating: Good
Blizz reps (blues) stated that you may get the "firewall" message, even if your settings are correct. This is because Blizzard is self-throttling the download, so it is a phantom message.

As long as you are getting progress (and know your settings are correct), ignore the firewall message. Just keep in mind the progress will be slow, regardless of your settings.
#21 Dec 01 2006 at 5:04 AM Rating: Decent
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Also just a note I did my download at around Midnight (EST) (or 9pm PST) on both of my computers and that may of helped my speed. I always try to do the downloads at "off peak" hours. Give that a try and see if your download speeds up.
#22 Dec 03 2006 at 10:45 AM Rating: Decent
So I have successfully downloaded the entire 489mbs of patch content onto one computer. Took me several days of leaving the computer on overnight, but it's finally done. SO that's good.

However, on my second computer, I have nothing, so I am wondering whether I can just copy the patch content from the first computer to this one? Instead of downloading the whole thing onto this second computer as well?

I can't see why this is not doable, but hopefully someone can confirm it for me.

Thanks again!
#23 Dec 05 2006 at 2:29 AM Rating: Decent
I only have about 100MB of the patch downloaded, but when I try to run the BackgroundDownloader I get this message: "Data for the next patch is not available." when I obviously don't have all the data for the next patch.

What up with that?
#24 Dec 05 2006 at 2:35 AM Rating: Decent
RobReder wrote:
I only have about 100MB of the patch downloaded, but when I try to run the BackgroundDownloader I get this message: "Data for the next patch is not available." when I obviously don't have all the data for the next patch.

What up with that?

It's Tuesday. The patch will be available later, after they've done maintenence.

Damn! I miss the Tuesday is maintenence thread.
#25 Dec 05 2006 at 2:38 AM Rating: Decent
I didn't know you couldn't get patch downloads during maintenance times too.

So this means I won't be able to play when the servers come up? I'll have to wait for the download to finish, patch, then finally play, right?
#26 Dec 05 2006 at 2:40 AM Rating: Decent
Tecktopg, nothing keeps you from copying it.
In fact, it was taking so long for me that I copied it from my neighbor, and now it's done. Oh, and in Europe, the count is now 3 files, totaling about 750 MBs
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