Not a rant, not a complaint.
It has occurred to me that with the increase in the frequency of rares, I am now able to keep at least one of my two mains stocked with enough rares to fill out my selection of armor, weapons and spells/combat abilities, and If I spend a little more time harvesting then I normally might, I can make the rares I find stretch to cover both toons.
Naturally, this does not cover the rares that I might buy for crafting and sale for profit, but then I don't think it should. I am more than willing to buy the items I need for rare tailoring and wood working from those players who have them up for sale. The profit margin on rare finished goods is high enough that purchasing the raw materials does not pose a hardship.
I am happy enough to find that I can keep both my ranger and warden in rare armor and weapons, not to mention adept 3 spells just by harvesting the zones I am hunting in anyway.
How about you? Are you finding the rares you need to get by?
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Ive found a steel cluster like a long time ago, and since then, havnt found a single rare minus that one luminous stone I got in RV. I have friends that will go and harvest and walk away with like 7 or 8 rares in a couple hours, while I couldnt get one if my life depended on it. Im sure if I harvested for longer I would eventually come across one, but I dont have that kind of time, I prefer leveling so I can raid, and make more money so I can just buy them.
I swear I am jinxed when it comes to rares. In 6 weeks, taking a couple hours out a week specifically to harvest, I have gotten 1 ( yes 1) rare. Meanwhile my friends and So only have to LOOK at a rock and they get what they need.
I have been adventuring in Thundering Steppes for a couple of hours a day for several weeks now and not a single rare of any type. I tend to harvest all node types so this may cut down on my success rate, but I estimate that I'm now approaching 1000 harvests without a single rare. I'm only counting carbonite, severed ash, bellanona roots, gold, agate and dens in this count. I have found seven Sparklies. Particularly frustrating is my search for a steel cluster. I'm an armorer and want to make myself a steel cuirass. I've done about 400 ore harvests without any luck.
I'm seriously thinking that I'm going about this the wrong way. I've got a provisioner alt now and I'm considering converting those stacks and stacks of provisions into food that I can sell. I could then use the cash to buy the rares to make my armor with. There also seems to be a good demand for carbonite chainmail on my server. I can convert the roots and a small portion of the carbonite into cash also.
I'm seriously thinking that I'm going about this the wrong way. I've got a provisioner alt now and I'm considering converting those stacks and stacks of provisions into food that I can sell. I could then use the cash to buy the rares to make my armor with. There also seems to be a good demand for carbonite chainmail on my server. I can convert the roots and a small portion of the carbonite into cash also.
sarongor confided:
You absolutely should make things with the commons as they represent a sizable and consistant revenue stream. I have a provie and on my server, (Toxxulia), and have found that both food and drink sell very well. I also find that common armor sells well (I have a T4 tailor), although you have to make a lot of it since you won't get a lot of profit per piece.
For your armorer, (and if you are guilded and a 'good' character), I would also recommend doing tradskill quests for the Ironforge family. They have a crafting instance below their mansion in NQ, (entrance around the back). They pay a whopping 160% return on the cost of goods for each order so you will make your money back and a reasonable profit on each set of 10 items they have you make.
Another good trick is to use the mob drop equivalent items, (like carbonite canteens), instead of raw carbonite clusters when selling to the Ironforge family. When you do this, they will figure your return by using the value of the 'raw' as the NPC sellback price with the 60% profit margin getting factored from that value as well.
Bottom line here is YES, you should be crafting from commons. It is worth experience and there is good money to be made from your labors to boot!
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I'm seriously thinking that I'm going about this the wrong way. I've got a provisioner alt now and I'm considering converting those stacks and stacks of provisions into food that I can sell. I could then use the cash to buy the rares to make my armor with. There also seems to be a good demand for carbonite chainmail on my server. I can convert the roots and a small portion of the carbonite into cash also.
You absolutely should make things with the commons as they represent a sizable and consistant revenue stream. I have a provie and on my server, (Toxxulia), and have found that both food and drink sell very well. I also find that common armor sells well (I have a T4 tailor), although you have to make a lot of it since you won't get a lot of profit per piece.
For your armorer, (and if you are guilded and a 'good' character), I would also recommend doing tradskill quests for the Ironforge family. They have a crafting instance below their mansion in NQ, (entrance around the back). They pay a whopping 160% return on the cost of goods for each order so you will make your money back and a reasonable profit on each set of 10 items they have you make.
Another good trick is to use the mob drop equivalent items, (like carbonite canteens), instead of raw carbonite clusters when selling to the Ironforge family. When you do this, they will figure your return by using the value of the 'raw' as the NPC sellback price with the 60% profit margin getting factored from that value as well.
Bottom line here is YES, you should be crafting from commons. It is worth experience and there is good money to be made from your labors to boot!
Given that crafting from commons is a profitable, the question I'm pondering is which is the fastest way to accomplish my goal.
I want to acquire a steel cluster and make a steel cuirass. So am I better off spending hours and hours foraging or is that time better spent in the crafting zone? Then I use the profits from tradeskilling to purchase a steel cluster. Assume that I am foraging all the raws myself and I'm already crafting sufficiently to level my tradeskills.
I want to acquire a steel cluster and make a steel cuirass. So am I better off spending hours and hours foraging or is that time better spent in the crafting zone? Then I use the profits from tradeskilling to purchase a steel cluster. Assume that I am foraging all the raws myself and I'm already crafting sufficiently to level my tradeskills.
The answer to that depends on whether you would rather spend time crafting or out in the world.
There are many players who hate even the thought of crafting and some of them end up being my best customers! I tend to enjoy both crafting and adventuring so for me trade skilling is not a chore and the income stream is a nice bonus.
My suggestion would be to try crafting and see if you have the temperment for it. You have nothing to lose and everything to gain. If it turns out that you don't enjoy life "down in the hole", then no harm - no foul, you can always go back to adventuring.
What I tend to do is mix it up. Some evenings I craft and some evenings I adventure. When I don't feel like doing one, I can always fall back on the other and either way, I'm having fun.
Which will take you less time? No one can say for sure but neither one is the 'wrong' choice either.
There are many players who hate even the thought of crafting and some of them end up being my best customers! I tend to enjoy both crafting and adventuring so for me trade skilling is not a chore and the income stream is a nice bonus.
My suggestion would be to try crafting and see if you have the temperment for it. You have nothing to lose and everything to gain. If it turns out that you don't enjoy life "down in the hole", then no harm - no foul, you can always go back to adventuring.
What I tend to do is mix it up. Some evenings I craft and some evenings I adventure. When I don't feel like doing one, I can always fall back on the other and either way, I'm having fun.
Which will take you less time? No one can say for sure but neither one is the 'wrong' choice either.
I cant really tell they increased the chance, I used to get more rares before the update. I have harvest skill except fishing and trapping maxed, and seldom get rares like I used to.
That pearl continues to elude me...
I do not know if my server (befallen) was bugged, but after last weeks patch I finally had sucess with harvesting rares in TS.
From Thursday through Sunday the norm was a rare every couple of hours. But Sunday evening I hit a lucky streak: Steel Clusters(2), Palladium(1), Dandelion(1) and a Sparkling Stone.
From Thursday through Sunday the norm was a rare every couple of hours. But Sunday evening I hit a lucky streak: Steel Clusters(2), Palladium(1), Dandelion(1) and a Sparkling Stone.
I think my luck has run out. I got two rares in one day (Palladium clusters) but that was a while ago and believe me I am the harvesting queen. I can't seem to pass a node without harvesting it. I haven't even gotten a glimmering or a shimmering anything.
I think I need to rub my husbands head or something. He always seem lucky when it comes to getting rares.
I think I need to rub my husbands head or something. He always seem lucky when it comes to getting rares.
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I think I need to rub my husbands head or something. He always seem lucky when it comes to getting rares.
I hear if you rub 2 dark elves together, you get...well...not a rare.
I've been noticing that when killing named, rares are dropping. I picked up a cobalt cluster and a scaled pelt in SS the other day and another Vanedium dropped in POF. I wonder if thats what they mean by more dropping? I still have yet to harvest a rare and I've been out quite a bit. Only thing I have mined so far is a Lambent stone
I got a rare tier 2 pelt from the named fairy in oakmyst woods. It realyl surprised me since its a tier 1 zone, but I suppose the boss mob was lvl 11.
I have been getting ALOT of rares in tier 1 zones. About ready to jsut call them uncommons to be honest.
Whats ashame is the recipes to work tier 1 rares are outrageous. I was wanting to make some tier 1 furniture since I am a crafter. However to make it I would have to pay 13 gold for recipes to make the furniture. That doesn't even include the recipe to process the rare wood, I can't even find it.
I have been getting ALOT of rares in tier 1 zones. About ready to jsut call them uncommons to be honest.
Whats ashame is the recipes to work tier 1 rares are outrageous. I was wanting to make some tier 1 furniture since I am a crafter. However to make it I would have to pay 13 gold for recipes to make the furniture. That doesn't even include the recipe to process the rare wood, I can't even find it.
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Whats ashame is the recipes to work tier 1 rares are outrageous. I was wanting to make some tier 1 furniture since I am a crafter. However to make it I would have to pay 13 gold for recipes to make the furniture. That doesn't even include the recipe to process the rare wood, I can't even find it.
Yup, the true newbie is basically shut out of the lower tier rare crafting business because of the pricing on these advanced crafting recipe books.
However, IMHO, it's not really too much of a hardship, since you're really only in tier one for, at most, a few hours, and not much longer in tier two. I think it's a waste to make gear out of rare T1 harvests, and almost a waste to make spells/runes/arts from them. The best way to use them is to make status rent reducing furniture and other home items like rugs and sconces, and you can do that any time in the future.
Lydiaele confided:
Only reason I can see to make rare T1 spells is if you tend to mentor often. Some of those spells can come in handy when you're mentored back down to lvl 12 and all the good stuff is uncastable!
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I think it's a waste to make gear out of rare T1 harvests, and almost a waste to make spells/runes/arts from them.
Only reason I can see to make rare T1 spells is if you tend to mentor often. Some of those spells can come in handy when you're mentored back down to lvl 12 and all the good stuff is uncastable!
i find it kinda hard..you have to put a LOT of time in.
For me...
This is what i need..
For my armor..
8 cobalt
2 lambent
Weapons..
1 ironwood (for bow)
1 ironwood (for shield)
3 cobalt (2 dual weild & 1 one hand)
5 lambent stones
Jewelery..
6 vanadium
2 lambent stones
Adept 3 Spells..
i picked 15 adept 3s i want soo..
15 vanadium stones
Quiver & packs
3 scale hides (3 20 slot packs)
1 scale hide for 20 slot quiver
grand total:
11 cobalt
2 ironwood
21 Vanadium
9 lambent stones
4 scale hides
THAT is what i need as i hit 50...i am 53 now and i got the armor weapons and a few adepts...
I am still toying around to get a t6 rare set of leather armor also. Just dont know as of yet.
For me...
This is what i need..
For my armor..
8 cobalt
2 lambent
Weapons..
1 ironwood (for bow)
1 ironwood (for shield)
3 cobalt (2 dual weild & 1 one hand)
5 lambent stones
Jewelery..
6 vanadium
2 lambent stones
Adept 3 Spells..
i picked 15 adept 3s i want soo..
15 vanadium stones
Quiver & packs
3 scale hides (3 20 slot packs)
1 scale hide for 20 slot quiver
grand total:
11 cobalt
2 ironwood
21 Vanadium
9 lambent stones
4 scale hides
THAT is what i need as i hit 50...i am 53 now and i got the armor weapons and a few adepts...
I am still toying around to get a t6 rare set of leather armor also. Just dont know as of yet.
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