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Finally! A Multi-hit weapon for ninja ^^. We have subtle blow as well.

Bomb Toss isn't a TP move, I've had goblins instantly suicide when engaged.

LoL, 18 people with ridill AND kracken club....

Good luck with that!

But if you ever do manage something like that. Grab a PLD/NIN and stick them infront of this group for cover. And have the drk's stand ontop of each other. Then worry about keeping them alive after bloodweapon wears off....

Edited, Wed Oct 12 10:10:48 2005 by tarekthedestroyer

Well, yeah, but this was only common in weapons where the base damage was 1. To my knowledge, this only applied to the Ceremonial Dagger and Signet Staves.

This tactic was naturally exploited by mages who could sleep their target mob, usually crabs. With their high defense and low damage, doing 0 was pretty much guaranteed.

However, the Kraken Club does not have a base damage of 1. You might get 0s now and then due to the simple fact that the game's number generator is so random, but on the same mobs above, I'd imagine 3-15 to be the norm, with criticals reaching 25 or so. I tried soloing with my Alchemy club before, which has a damage rating of 3. Hitting for 4-7 was a lot more common than the 0.

Translation: "No, I haven't ever been in a party with a Kraken Club, but I'll still pretend like I know what I'm talking about."

Some people are alittle touchy.

CoP Ring
Correct, I mistyped, I meant to point out the Subtle Blow enhancement to reduce the TP the Mob gained from someone beating on it 8 times a swing.

And as for dmg done here's some numbers thrown together by someone who's actually tried it

Kraken club is not a high dmg output weapon anyway, a promised 14 dmg per enspell a shot, the dmg from the club isn't the goal, its the dmg from the enspell.

As for accuracy, there's plenty of ways to counter that. Not to mention the fact you've optimally 10 swings a turn (2 from Joyeuse and 8 from Kraken) so 2-3 swiff's isn't a deal breaker.

as for HNM's, I can't really think of any where a RDM would be appropriate in the front line anyway, and especially not feeding something TP.

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Edited, Wed Oct 12 13:10:10 2005 by CodeineOnTitanServer

I beat it drops off an HNM :(

Theres also a Mercurial Sword (GSword) and Pole
that both hit 2-3 times.
These both seem to drop off an HNM.

I was hoping this would be easier to get, an make
kraken club price drop and availablity go up.
I can dream ... -_-

edit:
Did a little more digging and aparently the mercurial stuff
also comes from those new treasure hunting quests. THe ones
where there is an ??? on the map. So maybe my dream may become reality ^^.

Edited, Wed Oct 12 17:28:42 2005 by BlShadowDragon

Bomb Toss is not a TP move....

since when?

Since always? I've heard they're not TP moves before and i've seen proof first hand. Recently i was in a party, stunned a gob bomb and about 5-6 seconds later (i'm being literal when i say 5-6 seconds) he tossed another bomb

Yeah because when you stun a mons TP move he dosent loose tp , so he can just do it again.

On the subject of the "Kraken" Dagger...boo-hiss (not equippable by RDM).

On the subject of Gobby Bombs:



Uhm, every goblin that has ever gone Bomb, hit, hit, Bomb, hit, Bomb, hit, Bomb, says that.

Now, in all fairness, I suppose the 12 invisible RDM's in the invisible alliance all beating on them with their B rank weapons for insignificant (but over 0 damage) were giving the goblins enough TP to spam bombs.

Anyone that thinks Goblins have to have TP to throw bombs, has obviously never seen them spam the frikkin things.

One poster suggested that if you stun a TP move, the mob doesn't loose the TP and can do it again...perhaps.

But I never had stunners in my Mandy fights, and anyone that has gone through Kazham has seen Dream Flower Spam...by the time you can get a second cure off to wake someone, here comes the next...and there's no way one person at that level is going to give a mob 100% TP in the time it takes to cast "Cure I" twice.

Just the other day (pre update) my Exp.Pt was in W.Altepa at the Oasis of Hubol, fighting Goblins...and I guess that alliance of invisible RDM's we had were supplying the TP for them to spam bombs like a steriotypical "Nuke-Happy Black Mage".

And this wasn't "Bomb Toss" + "Oh <Bleep> Stun It!!" + "Timer Reset for Next TP Move Attempt"...this was "Bomb for Damage" + swing + swing + Goblin Rush + "Bomb for Damage" + Swing + "Bomb for Damage".

Made our WHM very unhappy...they went down easy enough (Suicide Bomb FTW) but the mana drain made us have to rest after Chain2/3 (and that's with a TaruWHM and a TaruBRD/whm adding to the cures).



Please, that's as bad as "BST + Pet in Party = -30% Party Wide Exp"...if the Pet's "Level" is equal to or lower than the highest "PC" in the party, only the BST looses exp...and a Jug Pet boosts damage, speeds kills, and only hurts the BST's exp (since the jug pet is always the same level or less to the BST that summoned it).

In fact, my current static is BRD/whm(me), WHM/(blm|rdm), BST/war, plus three pickups...and the BST has been using jugs constantly to increase damage and speed kills (and thus add to the Chain~y Goodness)...a little soloing (between party times) and he's back up to us or a bit higher, and ready for more exp.pt fun.

Kinda like having your NPC out for a few fights while waiting on someone to reconnect only hurts -your- experience, not the entire party's (and if you don't believe me, get your L5+ buttarus out there and bloody well see for yourself...don't say you "can't check" because you don't have BST high enough to use a jug).

Sorry for the thread highjack.


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