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#1 Sep 22 2005 at 8:37 PM Rating: Decent
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A little off the subject of the general posts latley...

I was wondering what the point of bind sight is?
#2 Sep 22 2005 at 8:57 PM Rating: Decent
I often use bind sight to scout. You can piggy back your way through mobs using bind sight. using bind sight you can get your vision pretty darn far away from yourself as you work your way through mobs. I've only used it a few times, but both my shaman and wizard have found it useful at one time or another. It's a pretty neat scouting tool. Nothing fancy though.
#3 Sep 22 2005 at 9:00 PM Rating: Decent
edit: removed stupid response

Edited, Fri Sep 23 19:38:51 2005 by Malificio
#4 Sep 22 2005 at 9:25 PM Rating: Decent
One of the best combinations is bind site with calm/pacify, etc. You target a mob, cast bind sight, then hit F9 to get an external view. Rotate around the mob so you see the other mobs in the room. Cast pacify (can be cast through walls, no line of sight rules). When you have the room pacified, then you can single pull one of the mobs. You can use assist in a group so more than one person can be pacifying (clerics and chanters and bards, etc.).
#5 Sep 23 2005 at 12:58 AM Rating: Decent
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My favorite thing to do with Bind Sight is scout zones/mobs. As Minitiki said, you can piggyback your sight from one mob to the next.

As a Ranger with the Innate Camo AA, it is especially useful for finding out which mobs can see invis. I can get myself in a secluded corner in the zone I want to scout, target a nearby pathing mob, press F9 to pull the camera out, cast Bind Sight, and hit my Camo. As 'my' mob walks around the zone, I can target other mobs, and con them. Since I am in my corner invis, when I con them I can tell if they see invis or not. And then I cast Bind Sight again to switch mobs, hit Camo, and continue to scout.

Doing this, you can sight-hop around an entire zone, and probably see things most players could only see with a raid force. It is even better than the Wizzy Eye, because it doesn't have a short duration time, and it can be cast on any target anywhere in the zone.

Other things to do with Bind Sight:
-Take screenshots of your raid from the mob's point of view.
-Target your puller on those long pulls so you know exactly when that mob is incoming.
-See life through the eyes of a moss snake. =-P
#6 Sep 23 2005 at 1:17 AM Rating: Decent
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A little off the subject of the general posts latley...


I find it extremely refreshing, to see a proper question (and no e.g. "nerf" rant).

I can only second what the posters above said. great. If you don't feel like slaying dragons (or exp. grinding), just superiour camo/improved invis in a quite corner, and scout the zone. I really enjoy doing this, especially as the range was 10.000 afair. hopping from mob to mob halfway across the zone is just "kewl".
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#7 Sep 23 2005 at 5:53 AM Rating: Decent
You can travel pretty much the entire WOS zone with bind sight.
#8 Sep 23 2005 at 9:59 AM Rating: Decent
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As previously stated, bind sight is primarily used for scouting. That said, you can do some fairly impressive stuff with the spell, especially as a bard (no mana cost, so it doesn't cost you a thing to jump though tens or even hundreds of bodies).

Want to see if Trakanon's up for your epic? No problem, just target the nearest mob from zone in, cast bind sight and switch to 3d view. Song pulses on the tick, your viewpoint recenters on mob. retarget next closest mob to trak, wait for tick, viewpoint recenters on new mob. Rinse, repeat. (Can be fun, educational, and even lifesaving to scout around the zone this way while the group buffs up; the spell has no practical range limit, so you can go anywhere you can get a target.)

A secondary technique for this is to combine with the eye of zomm spell. Bards get a clicky helmet with this effect from their Velious armor, but anyone can use stalking probes for the same effect. (Or have the party mage to the pretargeting.) The cool thing about the eye of zomm spell is that it doesn't change your target, nor does it move you around while you scout (if you cast it between server ticks, your movement may still be bound to your body until the tick hits - it's not a bug, it's a feature <G>). So, you can pull a mob and engage it with your normal melee and spells, cast eye of zomm, and leave your body still in combat while you go find the next pull. Once you've located your mob, target it briefly to put it in memory, then hit the "toggle last two targets" button to retarget the current pull. As soon as the current pull falls, or even slightly before if you're chain pulling, toggle targets again, cast bind sight, and pacify/pull the next room.

Another useful technique is to use bind sight to guide new or lost party members to the group. Oh no! Bob was AFK and we're miles away from him now. No problem. Use your function keys to target the lost party member, cast bind sight so you can see where they are, and talk him through the route to you.

If you're not the active puller, cast bind sight on the person who is to allow pacifying and/or pretargetting for mez/snare/root/agro.

The bottom line is that it's a spell that allows you to move your viewpoint to any place within the zone that you can establish a target. The utility of such an ability is only limited by what your devious little minds can come up with.

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#9 Sep 23 2005 at 10:34 AM Rating: Decent
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it is not that useful, but some things are just fun to have. i like to just see how far i can get into a dungeon sometimes, like karnors. There are more useless abilities like pet voice graft but they add to the game.
#10 Sep 23 2005 at 1:08 PM Rating: Excellent
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Use it to spy on pulling techniques of rival guilds to gain l33t z0n3 s33kr3tz! Smiley: laugh

Wha?... You guys answered all the obvious uses. Sometimes I'd use it on dull raids where you stand in one place for ages. At least I could see what the puller was seeing.
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#11 Sep 23 2005 at 1:49 PM Rating: Good
One good use could be to scout around corners in Chardok.

From what I hear, pulls can get pretty nasty there.
#12 Sep 23 2005 at 1:52 PM Rating: Decent
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Occasionally, I have used it to see where a "lost" mob is. Especially useful when a targeted mob "falls" into a wall and warps someplace else in the zone. This seemed to happen to me occasionally in PoV and certain LDoNs. Also, when a low health mob gates, you can quick cast and see what other mobs he is bringing back with him.

#13 Sep 23 2005 at 4:54 PM Rating: Good
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bind sight on Tom Curise
#14 Sep 23 2005 at 7:09 PM Rating: Decent
"bind sight on Tom Curise"

eewwwww......there's an image that will take years of therapy to get rid of. thanks.
#15 Sep 25 2005 at 12:13 PM Rating: Decent
I'd bind sight on Tom C in an instant. I'd get to see that Hottie Katie Holmes' poonanny. But more to the point I love Bind site on Raid forces. It gives me a chance to cast on leaders/pullers and learn new zones.
#16 Sep 26 2005 at 7:18 PM Rating: Decent
/Agree that bind sight is primarily a scout tool with additional uses to belay boredom with the fun factor.

I'm an enchanter that learned the power of this tool to pull in dungeons however. One room in Mistmoore LDoN we simply couldn't pull without 6+ adds from seemingly nowhere. Finally after 4 attempts I remembered this spell in my spellbook and said "lemme see what that goblin frost scout sees .." and lo and behold there were mobs within agro range out of sight behind rocks and around corners that were chain agroing ones farther in. I now pull almost all LDoNs I'm in using Bind Sight + Pac and haven't lost one since =)

Aside from that it's useful for scouting to see if an untrackable NPC is up or if no tracker is in group I've still been able to Bind Sight to roamers in LDoNs to pretty much scout the whole dungeon for named if there is time.
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