Yup....ask 1st.
I personally don't like it when someone just rolls up and starts pulling the mobs that i have been camping, and possibly split timed.
If i see that an area is obviously being " camped "....i just go somewhere else :)
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Of course u did not KS. Those people were just morons who wanted the whole fort to themselves. Next time use ignore.
Technically, KSing imo, means someone pulls a mob and u steal agro and kill it. If 2 people agro at near the same time it is not anyone's fault imo but only if someone agros after the pull begins.
Edited, Tue Sep 20 07:31:38 2005 by TheGreatSieg
Technically, KSing imo, means someone pulls a mob and u steal agro and kill it. If 2 people agro at near the same time it is not anyone's fault imo but only if someone agros after the pull begins.
Edited, Tue Sep 20 07:31:38 2005 by TheGreatSieg
Obviously everyone is pretty much in agreement, that was not KS.
I also don't think it is unreasonable for them to share the camp unless there are really burning through it like butter. Even then would it be so harsh to share.
Now for my recent story.
When I am just out killing solo right now I hunt in the warehouse safe spot in Dulak's. I don't kill very fast and I don't need to be greedy. I log-in and there is a pet standing there but no owner. So I figure he is either pulling something or he is invis and afk. So I start pulling the left hand warehouse. I pull my one and he comes back and says you know this area is camped and he adds I get all the DB's and especially the Guardians. We are talking him being 57 and me being 51. At that point a lot of stuff is going LB to me in other areas of the zone. So I pull another DB to me but I know LB to him. And his next reply, do you mind there really isn't enough room here. So I left cause I didn't want to listen to him whine. I have had two full 6 person groups work out of that spot without having an issue and he expects to pull both warehouses solo. Not worth the effort or the arguement. I just went to a different warehouse and kept it empty of LB's and the one DB for 90 minutes with almost zero down time between pops once the cycle was begun.
I also don't think it is unreasonable for them to share the camp unless there are really burning through it like butter. Even then would it be so harsh to share.
Now for my recent story.
When I am just out killing solo right now I hunt in the warehouse safe spot in Dulak's. I don't kill very fast and I don't need to be greedy. I log-in and there is a pet standing there but no owner. So I figure he is either pulling something or he is invis and afk. So I start pulling the left hand warehouse. I pull my one and he comes back and says you know this area is camped and he adds I get all the DB's and especially the Guardians. We are talking him being 57 and me being 51. At that point a lot of stuff is going LB to me in other areas of the zone. So I pull another DB to me but I know LB to him. And his next reply, do you mind there really isn't enough room here. So I left cause I didn't want to listen to him whine. I have had two full 6 person groups work out of that spot without having an issue and he expects to pull both warehouses solo. Not worth the effort or the arguement. I just went to a different warehouse and kept it empty of LB's and the one DB for 90 minutes with almost zero down time between pops once the cycle was begun.
Not a KS.
And if mobs were up for longer than about 10 secs, I would consider those mobs outside of their camp.
I define a camp as a group of mobs that a group can kill and keep cleared. If a mob is up for more than 10 secs (grace peroid that their puller has to come get the mob), the group has over-extended themselves and the mob is free game. So if the group has to med between pulls or has to med due to a death, they have bitten off more than they could chew and need to re-define their camp. My camps consist of breaking the mobs so that I am at the mob's spawn point waiting for it to pop.
And if mobs were up for longer than about 10 secs, I would consider those mobs outside of their camp.
I define a camp as a group of mobs that a group can kill and keep cleared. If a mob is up for more than 10 secs (grace peroid that their puller has to come get the mob), the group has over-extended themselves and the mob is free game. So if the group has to med between pulls or has to med due to a death, they have bitten off more than they could chew and need to re-define their camp. My camps consist of breaking the mobs so that I am at the mob's spawn point waiting for it to pop.
SoE can't officially recognize camps because then camps would have to be defined, every mob in every zone in the game. And how would you classify individual camps? Sure, there's the old-school camp setups, like the Frenzied room in Lower Guk, or the 3-pop of Treants in PoN. But at 53 I was soloing the whole east wing of LGuk (Frenzied and Sentinel rooms in LGuk) and I can pull a cycle of 5-6 spawns in PoN near the GY.
And, to be honest, this isn't new. Kill-stealing has very much been a problem way, way back in the day.
And, to be honest, this isn't new. Kill-stealing has very much been a problem way, way back in the day.
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What the H!@#.
It looks like everyone in this thread that was below a 3 on the Karma scale aka can't Rate got downrated. What for?
I gave my opinion and my most recent appropriate story. Nothing nasty. Oh Well!
It looks like everyone in this thread that was below a 3 on the Karma scale aka can't Rate got downrated. What for?
I gave my opinion and my most recent appropriate story. Nothing nasty. Oh Well!
No clue - I actually usually rate up anyone that bothers to post a response that has something of intelligence within...
Damnit =/ I hate to disagree on something like this =/ but I do.
I think you KSed........ Yes SoE doesn't recognize camps.........but most EQ players do.........I mean for SoE it you kill it you get it.......but what about the people who cleared the way while you just "ran in" and killed it while they did the work........
They had an established camp area and you infringed upon it.......Yes you KSed......(personally I would have trained your ***(at least once...).........camp stealing is low..........you don't do it....if there is someone in a camp you go somewhere else!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
I mean what is they were waiting for a named........ok they clear 10 rounds of non named but on the 11th a named pops......oh hey there are no camps......I can kill that named even though I didn't spawn it.........
Maybe they were resting(Oh and FYI IF THEY WERE NOT RESTING AND THEY WERE CLAIMING A CAMP EVEN THOUGH THEY COULD NOT HOLD IT THEN THEY HAVE NO RIGHTS TO IT............YOU CAN'T JUST SAY OMFG fear is mine etc........) and if they were then you were at fault.
I think you KSed........ Yes SoE doesn't recognize camps.........but most EQ players do.........I mean for SoE it you kill it you get it.......but what about the people who cleared the way while you just "ran in" and killed it while they did the work........
They had an established camp area and you infringed upon it.......Yes you KSed......(personally I would have trained your ***(at least once...).........camp stealing is low..........you don't do it....if there is someone in a camp you go somewhere else!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
I mean what is they were waiting for a named........ok they clear 10 rounds of non named but on the 11th a named pops......oh hey there are no camps......I can kill that named even though I didn't spawn it.........
Maybe they were resting(Oh and FYI IF THEY WERE NOT RESTING AND THEY WERE CLAIMING A CAMP EVEN THOUGH THEY COULD NOT HOLD IT THEN THEY HAVE NO RIGHTS TO IT............YOU CAN'T JUST SAY OMFG fear is mine etc........) and if they were then you were at fault.
but in your case you were camp stealing
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