Barb xp penaltyFollow

A couple days ago we were talking about the barbarian xp penalty and I expressed uncertainity that it existed.

You win!

The test: Make a lvl 1 Warrior in Gloomingdeep. Do the tutorial NPC hail and kill the first kobold.

Results:
Wood Elf - Total gained: 95 Ticks
Half Elf - Total gained: 95 Ticks
Human - Total gained: 95 Ticks
Barbarian - Total gained: 91 Ticks (i.e. He took the 5% penalty)
Halfling - Total gained: 98 Ticks (i.e. She took the 5% bonus)

At that point EQ crapped out on me so I never got to test ogres and trolls but I'm sure their penalties bear out. Was curious about Vah Shir as well but if you really wanna know, go make one and see. If you're going to use my numbers, remember to make a Vah Shir warrior or rogue. Warriors and Rogues get a 5% bonus for their class so if you make a VS shaman and compare it to the Wood Elf warrior, your numbers will be completely screwed up.

For anyone wondering, supposively humans were supposed to get the 5% bonus for being mid-line with no special abilities. It was accidentally programmed into the halflings and no one ever bothered to fix it.

Regarding hybrids, this came up on the Live forums when someone tried to use this method to prove hybrids still carried an xp penalty. When SOE "fixed" the penalty, they did so by giving a bonus to mob xp when given to a hybrid. I don't know why they didn't fix it directly, probably for the same reason halflings still have a 5% bonus. Maybe it's harder than it sounds. Anyway, the first 75 ticks of xp came from hailing the quest NPC. Because of how the hybrid penalty was corrected, you'll still feel the xp penalty when hailing the NPC as it's quest xp not mob xp. During the usual course of the game this wouldn't matter unless you plan on levelling solely off Crushbone belts, etc but it does ***** up your "reading" when testing via the tutorial.

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/me dons a flame retardant pair of pants and stands next to Tarv

class bonuses remained.

So it is true! I've also wondered about the xp penalty since I play a barb shaman to my gf's HIE pally. We usually play grouped togeter; at one point we had dinged a level at exactly the same time, played for a few more hours together, and dinged together again. After that our exp got skewed.

Each race I tested fought a single mob, the white con kobold immediately after hailing the NPC in the tutorial. There should be no difference in the amount of xp the kobold would give each time as it is the exact same mob.

In my case I used warriors simply because it's a class that nearly every race can play so it was easy to make comparisons.

I just mean the little ticks on the xp bar. 25 blue ticks to a gold bubble of xp. I broke the xp gained down into ticks as it makes the difference clearer than to say "Three gold bubbles, three blue bubbles and two extra ticks".

Did you get the key and release the guy? I stopped immediately after killing the kobold without even looting.

My test:

I Wanted to test Frogloks so made a Froglok Warrior, for QA/QC purposes I also made a HE Warrior. Results were the same on both: 72 ticks of xp for quest and 22 ticks for kill = 94 ticks. So Frogs = HE = Humans = WE (from Joph's numbers)

Also wanted to test Erudite so checked a Erudite Paly against a HE Paly and threw in a Frog Paly for good measure. Results all the same: 46 ticks xp for quest, 22 ticks for kill = 68 ticks total. So, Erudite = HE = Frog, etc.

Nothing very surprising except the hybrid class quest xp penalty loss - over 35% difference between the two classes I tried. Guess if you wanna level a toon with questing you don't wanna roll a hybrid.

/em kicks head...Half Elf...nevermind

Just wondering if the end result of this analysis is to suggest (for tanking purposes anyway):

If you choose a race with an xp penalty, go with Warrior.
If you choose a hybrid, pick a race with an xp bonus.

So where are all the halfling paladins?


Edit: coreected speelin...

Edited, Wed Jan 12 15:17:53 2005 by Dothammer

I suppose noone tested Vah Shir? I hear some people say VS have the same 5% penalty as barbs, but I've also heard that they don't (supposedly because they eat twice as fast as all other races).

I've never tested it but from what i've seen when I play Vah-Shir don't have an xp penalty or bonus, but don't take my word on it.

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Should, but they don't.

Barb was rumored to be 5% and my testing showed it to be exactly that.

Troll/Iksar is pretty well known to be 20%. Ogre is supposed to be 15% and I've yet to see anyone argue the numbers.