trade skill profit, vs buying platinum, or 4 ever killing?Follow

last night i wanted to test out jewlery tradeskill
from 0- lvl 115. i stated out with 1500pp and bought silver and jems that cost less then 13pp each. i got my skill to 50 i think, 60-80% success. then bought eletrinum and same gems under 13 pp made it to 100, 40-60% success until 80 then 80% to 100. then the 13-20pp gems to get to 115 70-80% success. i had 1500pp and left with 44pp took me about an hour i think. i guess a loss of 1500pp for skill 115 not to bad. but it took me about 15 hours to make that 1500pp hunting and selling in bazaar. i hope to make some money in bazaar this weekend and continue skilling up. but i can only guess i'll loose double that money per 20 skill points. as the gems and gold cost more and more.
i still think that the trade skills should be no more then a 5% loss. or we should be able to buy our skill points for a little more then the cost of making items.
i rather have paid 3000pp to get my skill to 100 and take 5 minutes of my time. then spend and hour combining and loose 1500pp. and i only think it should be possible to buy until 100. then have to make for skill ups. i belive right now we can buy skills up to 25 or 30. it's a start.
i'd like to see skill trainer vendors in the game for every 10 levels you can buy 20 skill points for 10ppXlvl/2 pp each according to level for the cost. lvl 10 cost 50pp, lvl 50 cost 2500pp per skill up. max skill up to 200. these skill points don't count as your class skill points. all this would do is save some time for more money. in the end the loss of money and time to get your skill up, you can spend the extra money and save the time, it should even out. it's just an idea.

i think the reason i want to save time and make money and level faster, is because this game is slowly dying. i think 1-2 more years till most leave to eigther EQ2. asheron's call when the new expansion comes out, horizons and galexies when they fix them. world of warcraft online. etc. and hey even 2005 dungeons and dragons online... i like EQ only been playing 4 weeks. i plan to stay till the end of summer or year, when the bugs are hopfully out of the newer games. i can 15 characters on asheron's call, just waiting for expansion. but EQ keeps bringing expansions too. hard to deside. but i give EQ 6-8 months to keep me. then i'll try the other games and see. i do think after trying the others i'll probly end up here or asherons'call, or EQ2. sony and turbine have been around a long time, and there reliable for updates.

Or simply try a game that suits your needs better. If you have to spend 5 hours of your precious time to skill up on a tradeskill until its getting worthwhile without having 1 minute of fun its just hard work.

Even if you would earn only 10$ per hour at your workplace you could invest the 50 bucks to try out Horizons, DoC or whatever ;)

FYI, selling back enchanted jewelry has been nerfed as of a few weeks ago. You no longer make a profit selling back enchanted stuff.
Not sure if that was said or not earlier, but I didn't see it

the buying skills would be for first 100 skill levels only. and only 20 levels buy able per 10 character levels.
so level 20 could only buy skills up to 40 points, and level 50 could buy upto 100. the reason is mainly at 40th lvl as a sharman , starting to use trade skills for the first time. i rather be killing or helping others. i don't need a single item under 100 at that level. except sow potions. i just think it ould be better to buy skill points to help the higher levels and lower guys a bit get started. just so they fail less.
it's not a huge deal. i don't mind doing it. i came to EQ because of the trade skills. but i can say it would be a bit easier and more enjoyable if i didn't loose so much money from failure and selling to merchants.
i just spent 3 hrs farming, so i can hopfuly get 2-3k by morning although server just crashed on me. then i hope to kep moving up my jewlery skill so i can sell in bazaar for a bit of profit, to pay for my next skills i would like to raise.

here is how to make any tradeskill easier on your pocket :- Geerlok jem setter.

i followed the trivial scale with a gerelok and by the time i got too 203 <where you have to switch to platinum> my failure rate was down to 5% <see EQTraders for a breakdown of skill lvl - % failure rate> which is effectively what you get at trivial anyway, it the cost me 3k to go from 203 -230 and i then made velium fire wedding rings x10 <since with gerelok my skill was 243 and at 5% failure> and made 5k in bazaar over a week, i then did 230 - 250 for 2.5k so for a net cost of 500pp i GM'd jewelrycraft <with Int 250 and charisma 200 and ally faction> i have since made 20-30k selling jewelry.




all need planar drops and for REALLY good stuff need elemental drops.

SOE had the chance to make tradeskills both usefull and attractive throughout all levels but missed it. They should simply have the augumentation make tradeskill related.

For example: an ornate chain skirt which had a trivial of 122 to make needs for augumentation to be successfully combined with the augument in a forge at trivial 122 too. In that way the augument could also have been retrived so after an afternoon of LDoN we'd be all tradeskilling for a while and never ever ask ourselfes again what we skilled up for.

Of course a trivial had to be shown for everything you where about to augument but it would have been possibly to programm augumentation like that(look at restringing bows p.e.) - SOE just took the least expensive and challenging way.

You can beat me up of course for wanting to risk loosing a 1000p item on an unsucessfull trade skill attempt but the chance to also retrive it instead of destroying the augument to get the slot free or selling the whole thing at the Bazaar with a loss should make up for that. ;)

Edited, Mon Jan 26 04:17:23 2004 by Leiany