OK, I am not usually a complainer, but this really hacked me off.
Lag is very bad for me in the bazaar on Fennin Ro. A couple weeks ago because of cursor float, I accidentally clicked "buy" on a Blackened Alloy Spaulder selling for 100 plat (93 plat more than its worth). I immediately tried to contact the trader (Maritea) to let her know about the mistake and appeal to her sense of fairness. You can probably guess the response I got: none.
Now, I understand the concept of "buyer beware," and its my own fault for being careless with the floating cursor, but come on! What reason is there for pricing a 7 plat item at 100 plat other than to bilk a poor noob. What made it even worse is that 100 plat was about half the total bank of my lvl 17 (at the time) Druid, and he can't even use the spaulder.
On a side note, many thanks to Kemolena who, having heard my sob story, donated two items that made up for the loss. I guess EQ has its good an bad players, eh?
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The player you purchased the item from was probably AFK, just like 75% of the bazaar vendors. It probably has nothing to do with if the player is fair or not, most of us don't have the time to watch our screens 24 hours a day just to make sure someone doesn't accidently purchase one of our wares.
I can say at least for me anyway that I will often times price an item high if there are no others for sale, just to be sure I dont accidently just give away a valuble item. If it doesn't sell I will continue to adjust the price downward.
As far as pricing goes, its a free market. I'm not sure if it works this way where your from, but in the US at any rate people can price their wares at whatever price they want with few exceptions. I don't think you fully understand the concept of "buyer beware" as you stated. It is your own fault for buying the item. No ones being bilked, an item is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. theres no invisible tag on the item that says its worth 7pp.
In summary, suck it up, relist the item in the bazaar, take your losses and learn a lesson. As a self described "Spastic Mouse Clicker" I would think this would be a good one for you.
Im not usually a flamer but this post really hacked me off :P
I can say at least for me anyway that I will often times price an item high if there are no others for sale, just to be sure I dont accidently just give away a valuble item. If it doesn't sell I will continue to adjust the price downward.
As far as pricing goes, its a free market. I'm not sure if it works this way where your from, but in the US at any rate people can price their wares at whatever price they want with few exceptions. I don't think you fully understand the concept of "buyer beware" as you stated. It is your own fault for buying the item. No ones being bilked, an item is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. theres no invisible tag on the item that says its worth 7pp.
In summary, suck it up, relist the item in the bazaar, take your losses and learn a lesson. As a self described "Spastic Mouse Clicker" I would think this would be a good one for you.
Im not usually a flamer but this post really hacked me off :P
Nicroll 65 Assassin
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With my Bazaar mule I'll often buy things for my main and if I don't bank it right away, I'll set a high price for it (not normally outrageously high). If I sell it, I'll watch for another one at a lower price. If it doesn't well by the time I'm ready to play my main I head to the shared bank with it.
What actually determines the price of an item. It is what poeple are willing to pay. You can use webpages like this one to help set what is a fair price, but you will see all the time people paying more and less than what many people consider fair.
When it comes to prices, thre are times when I set an artifically high price. It may be an item that I am currently using and I really do not want to get rid of it, so I set the price higher than what it is worth, that way if it sells i can afford something better, otherwise I have my existing item.
Now to say that your were "Duped" into overspending for an item that is some bad luck on your part. The /bazaar menue lets you see all the stats of an item along with its cost. So If someone wants to charge way to much for an item, most people should be able to see that happening and buy a competitors item that is much more reasonably priced. End of story. My 2 Cents
When it comes to prices, thre are times when I set an artifically high price. It may be an item that I am currently using and I really do not want to get rid of it, so I set the price higher than what it is worth, that way if it sells i can afford something better, otherwise I have my existing item.
Now to say that your were "Duped" into overspending for an item that is some bad luck on your part. The /bazaar menue lets you see all the stats of an item along with its cost. So If someone wants to charge way to much for an item, most people should be able to see that happening and buy a competitors item that is much more reasonably priced. End of story. My 2 Cents
Sounds like a guilty conscience to me, and frankly, a pretty harsh flame given the tone of my original post. You must be selling rusty daggers for 50 pp with your trader. ;o)
If you read the post, you'll see where I blame myself for not paying attention to the lag and, as a flag waving member of the US capitalist system, I also aknowledged, as you said, that "people can price their wares at whatever price they want with few exceptions"
I just think that players, especially noobs like myself, should watch out for the cursor float in the bazaar, particularly when they may be grossly overcharged...don't know why that hacks you off so much.
If you read the post, you'll see where I blame myself for not paying attention to the lag and, as a flag waving member of the US capitalist system, I also aknowledged, as you said, that "people can price their wares at whatever price they want with few exceptions"
I just think that players, especially noobs like myself, should watch out for the cursor float in the bazaar, particularly when they may be grossly overcharged...don't know why that hacks you off so much.
The cursor float is what caused the buy - the bad luck aspect was that the last item highlighted was (in my most humble opinion) 700% higher than the MSRP. But you're right - the price of an item is whatever the market will bear. 'Course, you'd have to either be nuts or, like me, make a bad cursor click to pay 100 for this particular item.
i could care less if someone goes 93pp over the standard price more fool them i say and if people use /bazaar then it will never sell.
what REALLY get on my goat is the people who sell ornate gauntlet molds for 30k right next to plain gauntlet mold for the same price.
i would like to poison, shoot, stab, hang, draw and quarter these cheating pieces of $hit. i am lucky i have never bought the wrong mold but god damn it still annoys me
the other one is the /ooc selling item x really cheap only Yk and then they flame you when you point out they are 3k overprice and that 5 other people are seling cheaper
just my 2 pet hates in bazaar
what REALLY get on my goat is the people who sell ornate gauntlet molds for 30k right next to plain gauntlet mold for the same price.
i would like to poison, shoot, stab, hang, draw and quarter these cheating pieces of $hit. i am lucky i have never bought the wrong mold but god damn it still annoys me
the other one is the /ooc selling item x really cheap only Yk and then they flame you when you point out they are 3k overprice and that 5 other people are seling cheaper
just my 2 pet hates in bazaar
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i agree with lord xythex, it is a buyer be ware market. I myself am a 13 beastlord , who has no real chance of making high pp for myself. SO instead of dying at the hands of hihg level mobs, i harvest spider silks and sell them for a high amount of pp. I don't think i am overcharging for them but there is a high demand for them and they sell very well. Supply and Demand it's what the Bazaar market is all about.
P.S. I just bought a Pod of Water for 100000 pp , did i get ripped off?
P.S. I just bought a Pod of Water for 100000 pp , did i get ripped off?
The pod is slightly different since its a forage item and not sold by vendors. That said, I will quit my ******* about the lag and the perceived overcharge and defer to the more seasoned players on this issue - Caveat emptor!
Ok if we are going to rant about Bazaar pet peeves here's mine.
Stupid Framers.
There is a item that I farm and sell on a regular basis. I sell it for 300-400 plat. This item is also framed by several other players on my server. (Lore item, from a NPC). It's a good item at a fair price. But there is one framer who sells this for 90pp every time. It seems that long ago when they first sold it they undercut someone else at 100pp and has never bothered looking at others prices sense. She is messing up a good thing for everyone involved! AHHH!! rant, rant rant, and so on.
I've been wanting to get that out of my system for a while now.
But there is a good side to this, now if I don't have my item to sell and don't have time to farm it. I just buy hers for 90pp and mark it up to 400pp and start the /auction. I consider her a subcontractor now.
Stupid Framers.
There is a item that I farm and sell on a regular basis. I sell it for 300-400 plat. This item is also framed by several other players on my server. (Lore item, from a NPC). It's a good item at a fair price. But there is one framer who sells this for 90pp every time. It seems that long ago when they first sold it they undercut someone else at 100pp and has never bothered looking at others prices sense. She is messing up a good thing for everyone involved! AHHH!! rant, rant rant, and so on.
I've been wanting to get that out of my system for a while now.
But there is a good side to this, now if I don't have my item to sell and don't have time to farm it. I just buy hers for 90pp and mark it up to 400pp and start the /auction. I consider her a subcontractor now.
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But there is a good side to this, now if I don't have my item to sell and don't have time to farm it. I just buy hers for 90pp and mark it up to 400pp and start the /auction. I consider her a subcontractor now.
You just hit that one on the head. supply and demand. She gets her money you get your money everyone is happy :D
Nicroll 65 Assassin
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Aude Sapere
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Some people put all equipment up for sale at a high price each night, unwilling to sell it, unless they can get enough to buy better. Buyer in a hurry will pay higher, buyer wanting a bargain will be patient, seller in a hurry sells lower, seller wants more plat will be patient. And the beauty of it is, profits get made and business gets done, and all parties should be satisfied. Be careful. There are items with similar names that are very different.
I have subcontractors too, people who sell potions for insanely low prices, way below cost. People selling potions for less than the cost, say they just want some of their money back for skilling up. Well, they are trashing the business they are skilling up in, so why bother. I am sure this happens in other tradeskills too. Anyone can make money reselling if you take the effort to learn what to buy.
/rant off
I have subcontractors too, people who sell potions for insanely low prices, way below cost. People selling potions for less than the cost, say they just want some of their money back for skilling up. Well, they are trashing the business they are skilling up in, so why bother. I am sure this happens in other tradeskills too. Anyone can make money reselling if you take the effort to learn what to buy.
/rant off
Yes im afraid it is a "buyer beware" market.
For instance try and buy a misty thicket picket at the weekend and you are paying 90pp upwards, - no mromal price is between 9 and 11p. You do have to be carefull what you are buying and what you are doing.
That said, if it was an obvious mistake I would probably have refunded you. I did sell somethink to someone at an inflated (not sure of I want to get rid of this item or not) price to a character a couple of weeks ago. Yes I was afk and yes they were too young, I half expected to get a tell for a while asking for a refund, would i have given it ... in that instance yes.
And for the Grimfars out there :-
As a trader I tend to have a fair price in my head and stick to it maybe up it a bit now and then but not to stupid proportions.
For instance lets take giant toes, they sell have always sold up until recently at 35pp a pop. That is what i continue to sell them at, I consider the people selling them at 255pp a go at the weekend as rip off merchants.
Same goes for essence of moonlight, always sold well at 40 - 50pp a go, not 200pp - its plain extortion.
Just my 2cps, just because i put a different hat on and go afk, it does not mean i really want to rip anybody off.
.../over and out
For instance try and buy a misty thicket picket at the weekend and you are paying 90pp upwards, - no mromal price is between 9 and 11p. You do have to be carefull what you are buying and what you are doing.
That said, if it was an obvious mistake I would probably have refunded you. I did sell somethink to someone at an inflated (not sure of I want to get rid of this item or not) price to a character a couple of weeks ago. Yes I was afk and yes they were too young, I half expected to get a tell for a while asking for a refund, would i have given it ... in that instance yes.
And for the Grimfars out there :-
As a trader I tend to have a fair price in my head and stick to it maybe up it a bit now and then but not to stupid proportions.
For instance lets take giant toes, they sell have always sold up until recently at 35pp a pop. That is what i continue to sell them at, I consider the people selling them at 255pp a go at the weekend as rip off merchants.
Same goes for essence of moonlight, always sold well at 40 - 50pp a go, not 200pp - its plain extortion.
Just my 2cps, just because i put a different hat on and go afk, it does not mean i really want to rip anybody off.
.../over and out
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I for one have sold a rusty dagger for 10 plat, but I then threw in a stack of fish rolls. ;)
Put your price on it. Its not gouging its called free market. I have a fishbone earring on sale for 6.5 k mainly cause i dont really want to sell it. But if someone does, then my cleric will soon have a horse.
Put your price on it. Its not gouging its called free market. I have a fishbone earring on sale for 6.5 k mainly cause i dont really want to sell it. But if someone does, then my cleric will soon have a horse.
A bit off-topic but fits in here..... I browsed the 1p items last week as I sometimes do to torture myself with what I could have had if my silly half-elf had taken Kelethin and NOT Freeport as starting city....
...and someone had priced a LDoN item (recommended lvl 55) which name I forgot for 1 copper(!) I /tell him if he's serious with that? and get "thanks, HEHE - didn't see I did that" and that was it! the item got priced for 2390pp (i checked this - others priced it from 2500 to 3000)
Just a thanks and a laugh - the /&%$§"! son of a ?=/&%§!" wouldn't even leave his stall to come personally over to me and share some cheap whine with me just as a sign of gratefullness (which I earned in my opinion - hell I never had NEAR to 2390 pp, and I have to hunt for pelts the hard way to make some plat...)
SORRY - but that burns on my soul for 4 days now...
...and someone had priced a LDoN item (recommended lvl 55) which name I forgot for 1 copper(!) I /tell him if he's serious with that? and get "thanks, HEHE - didn't see I did that" and that was it! the item got priced for 2390pp (i checked this - others priced it from 2500 to 3000)
Just a thanks and a laugh - the /&%$§"! son of a ?=/&%§!" wouldn't even leave his stall to come personally over to me and share some cheap whine with me just as a sign of gratefullness (which I earned in my opinion - hell I never had NEAR to 2390 pp, and I have to hunt for pelts the hard way to make some plat...)
SORRY - but that burns on my soul for 4 days now...
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Don't feel bad, last night I hit the Bazaar to clear out the closet and made a HUGE mistake. I had an Obulus Death Shroud and a Death Watcher's Shroud I wanted to put up for sale.
Well, I wanted to Sell the Obulus for 14k and the Death watchers for 4k. Since the two Items look exactly the same I made the mistake of listing the Obulus with the Watcher's price and the watcher's Shroud with the Obulus price. Needles to say the Obulus sold rather quickly. My own Dumb a$$ fault for not double checking. Gonna have to do a lot of farming to make up for the 10k I lost but it should help remind me to be more careful.
Well, I wanted to Sell the Obulus for 14k and the Death watchers for 4k. Since the two Items look exactly the same I made the mistake of listing the Obulus with the Watcher's price and the watcher's Shroud with the Obulus price. Needles to say the Obulus sold rather quickly. My own Dumb a$$ fault for not double checking. Gonna have to do a lot of farming to make up for the 10k I lost but it should help remind me to be more careful.
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