Jun 26 - Accounts Banned

Jun. 26, 2007 04:00 [PDT] From: FINAL FANTASY XI
Accounts Banned (Jun. 26)

We would like to report the termination today of multiple accounts held by players involved in the usage of third-party tools or cheats, or engaged in RMT (Real Money Trading) activities.

Based on the results of our investigation, around 5750 PlayOnline accounts were terminated while around 1250 accounts were temporarily suspended.
Additionally, we have increased the number of mass bannings against certain PlayOnline violations in order to prevent illegal acts.

Details of the violations are as follows:

- Usage of tools that allow enhanced character movement.
May 31, Approx. 280 cases
June 7, Approx. 200 cases
June 14, Approx. 170 cases
June 21, Approx. 100 cases

- Usage of tools that circumvent game mechanics with respect to the timing of ability use, etc. in certain areas or at points where Notorious Monsters appear.
May 24, Approx. 10 cases
May 31, Approx. 10 cases
June 8, Approx. 10 cases
June 15, Approx. 10 cases
June 26, Approx. 110 cases

- Using cheats to automatically repeat a particular action.
June 8, Approx. 600 cases
June 14, Approx. 300 cases
June 21, Approx. 300 cases

- Accounts from people that were previously confirmed to have RMT connections, or that had violated the user agreements but re-subscribed to PlayOnline.
May 25, Approx. 150 cases

- Gil and item exchange for real world money cases:
June 26, Approx. 1000 cases

- Instances of ares or monster holding
May 24, Approx. 700 cases
June 6, Approx. 1800 cases
June 15, Approx. 1100 cases
June 21, Approx. 150 cases

The termination of these accounts has led to the removal of approximately 6.4 billion gil from circulation.

We would like to remind players that as well as adversely affecting game balance, the use of third-party tools or cheats can also have consequences that are not immediately obvious, such as introducing damaging viruses, and comprising the security of private account details. Usage of third-party tools will not be tolerated within FINAL FANTASY XI, and we will continue to severely penalize any players found to be in violation of the PlayOnline Member Agreement.

As we continue to ensure a fun and balanced environment for FINAL FANTASY XI, we hope that our players enjoy the game as it was intended and take care to avoid involvement in activities that violate the PlayOnline Member Agreement.

Thank you for your continued cooperation and understanding.

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Thank god
# Jun 29 2007 at 1:16 AM Rating: Decent
Ok yeah the RMT on my server, (Remora) isnt as big of a deal as it used to be. The only real problem i ever see anymore is those stupid casinos where people dont really ever pay up for when you roll 999.

I would have to say my only complaint is the goblin bounty hunter. I was pling a friend of mine in the dunes yesterday, and they kept getting aggroed by the guy. The bounty hunter needs to have its stats altered alot. First it needs to move slower, and only aggro to people fishin. Cause I was tired of every ten minuntes casting flash on this thing cause it aggroed to that pt.
Gil? Adena? Latnium? Gold?
# Jun 29 2007 at 12:56 AM Rating: Decent
I still own, but i dont play Lineage II or WoW anymore. Everyone out there who has a complaint about the RMT's in FFXI should go and try out one of the other games. Seriously, when I was on the other games and FFXI simultaniously, you can notice the difference in RMT activity. At least SE is doing something about it. NC Soft has done nothing for it's player base. I quit those two other games for FFXI for a good reason. And for you new players who are still complaining about inflation and the economy, after paying a MIL or less for an SH, SHADDUP!!! When I had mine crafted for me, they were selling for well over 8mil each on the AH. Good work SE, in my opinion.







Gil? Adena? Latnium? Gold?
# Jun 30 2007 at 10:15 AM Rating: Decent
The biggest difference for RMT activity on FF vs. a game like WoW is how the economy is set up. Most items on WoW are BOE so after you buy them you can't resell them so you never don't get money back for an item you bought. The item then leaves the economy after you sell it to an NPC or throw it out.

FF's problem is too many people were getting money that didn't deserve it a year or two ago (mostly low levels who didn't want to learn to play the game), levling fast and buying all of these great items, and like real life supply and demand kicked in. Suddenly price ratio's went crazy (which is starting to get fixed) and it went from selling say... 10 stacks of moat carp used to get you a certain item but now it takes over 40. The price of more common items virtually stayed the same while items such as Scorpion Harness, Huaby, Leaping Boots, and other highly wanted items prices increased at a high rate.

WoW doesn't have the problem because most good items are crafted. They're dropped off bosses, mobs w/ worldly drops, or quested. Almost every good item in the game are also Bind On Equip or Bind On Pickup so you can't constantly put them in the Auction House. This means a lot of good items are earned, regardless of the gold you have. Crafters in WoW aren't like crafters in FF. Crafters in FF have the ability to control the economy if they could get enough of certain needed items and fluctuate what items go for what price. On WoW, crafters are lucky if they can get a 10-30% profit off all the rare items they make because 9 chances out of 10 there's a rare drop somewhere that's better than what they made. On top of all that, WoW NPC's actually have USEFUL items at decent prices, making it that much easier to get gold out of the economy to prevent huge problems.


In conclusion... This is why I complain about RMT problems. I've played since the US release and have seen all the ups and downs of population, inflation, and events. In this game more than any other MMO I've played (expanding through more than WoW and FF but not Linage, sadly) RMT have an easier time effecting inflation and that's why it doesn't become a huge issue on those games. I congratulate SE on their efforts to solve these problems (although I think it should have started a year or two before it did when 10mil cost $20 wtf was that?) and I hope they keep up the good work.
Oh well
# Jun 28 2007 at 10:03 PM Rating: Decent
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RMT are always gonna be there. They run sky on some servers. They fish bot every day, camp the NM's that noone else will fight them for and sell it all for pure profit. People are gonna buy gil. You cant stop them and SE wont ban the buyers so whats the point? Dont ban the buyers then RMT is just going to find a way to resell that gil. Duh


This brings up something that happened to me once. I was in dunes powerleveling friends and ls members and one of the party members noticed I was "high lvl" and wanted an escort to Jeuno in /tell. I thought it was weird since he was only lvl 17 and no sub so there was no real reason he should be going to Jeuno. So I asked him and he replied that he needed to pick up the gil he bought. I told him it was illegal and all he said was "so?". I didn't escort him but I suppose someone did since I saw him in Jeuno about 30mins later. I called a GM to inspect my chat log to verify that he stated buying the gil but the GM asked if he mentioned the company he bought from; he didn't so it wasn't in my chatlog.

Anyway that player is still around and doing pretty well for himself with his good gear that came from the RMT. -_-
Wasted effort
# Jun 28 2007 at 9:09 PM Rating: Decent
No matter what they do, no matter how they do it RMT in the game (or any mmo for that matter) WILL NOT stop. Kill the buyers, the sellers go away and you lose hundreds of thousands of customers. Kill the sellers new ones will come back. Its really just a waste of time, What I suggest they should do is 1) put a cap on each and every item or 2) Sell the more uncommon items on vendors that adjust to your rank to keep the prices in check.
LOL
# Jun 28 2007 at 7:06 PM Rating: Default
Say good-bye to those RMTs.
And then say hello them as they come back as new players.

These cases are getting so repeatative and Unoriginal, reading the "Banned Accounts" is getting boring.
RMT ftl
# Jun 28 2007 at 4:18 PM Rating: Decent
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RMT are always gonna be there. They run sky on some servers. They fish bot every day, camp the NM's that noone else will fight them for and sell it all for pure profit. People are gonna buy gil. You cant stop them and SE wont ban the buyers so whats the point? Dont ban the buyers then RMT is just going to find a way to resell that gil. Duh
As long as there is demand...
# Jun 28 2007 at 12:07 PM Rating: Decent
Unfortunately, one of the saddest realities of the entire RMT situation is that without a customer-base, these people would not be in business. In other words, if there weren't people buying the gil, there would be no point in selling it, and the RMTs would slowly disappear (or so we hope...)

I suppose its a vicious cycle: as someone mentioned, prices are so high on certain items that it pushes some people into buying gil just to afford them (not that I would ever condone that, mind you), and thus maintains the very market that resulted in the high prices to begin with. Concurrently, those high-market items are so heavily camped that regular non-gil-buying folks have a much harder time getting their hands on said items.

I think SE is taking some good steps by making certain items RE and certain mobs poppable, but there is only so much they can do. Until people stop buying gil, the RMTs will always find ways of getting themselves back in the game to make/sell it, and that's a sad reailty.

In the meantime, the rest of us try to make the best of what the game has to offer and work around this unfortunate situation as much as possible.

Ah the laws of supply and demand...I wonder what Adam Smith would have thought of RMTs...I for one am sick of seeing a small parade of TaruBLMs running by every so often with names like "Fgheysnfjs" and "Snorlfjgmmrtl"....just makes me plain old mad.

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Economy versus balance
# Jun 28 2007 at 8:05 AM Rating: Decent
RMT are not the only reason for a falling economy in this game. I'll list the things that I've noticed causing economy failure.

1. First of all the banning of RMT have not hurt more than 10-15% of AH prices. It's mostly the prices of Rare/NM drops that have fallen do to RMT changes, but even banning hasn't hurt so much as the change in aquiring these items. Look at Emp Pin versus Alky Bracelets. Bracelets dropped because aquiring it became asaninely easy if your patient, whilst emp pin increased because it was inserted in a BCNM that isn't easy.

2. The removal of gil from circulation probably has the biggest impact from the RMT bans. While their gil was dirty, A person who would buy gil say, to craft, would pump millions into players who farmed crafting materials to powerlevel their craft, who'm then would use the gil to purchase say a rare item from the gilsellers. What you had was a cycle of sales that is impossible to get. So now people farming put there stuff up for sale, but not everyone can afford the inflated prices, and so the prices drop.

3. These next two example I think have a MUCH bigger impact on the economy then any of the RMT issues. This one is the introduction of ToAU. ToAU was made in response to the complaints of people having difficulty accomplishing the goals of Zilart and especially CoP. The difficulty of obtaining most ToAU items, and killing most ToAU mobs, as well as the mission cap, is severely toned down from other areas. On top of that items obtained from ToAU, especially gear, is substantially better than a lot of gear found in other areas, in some cases even better than end game gear. Their are little gil rewards, all item rewards in ToAU as well, so there is a lot less gil being created on the server, while people spending gil to get the ToAU gears.

4. Lets take a look at the crafting items. lvl 40+ you see people wearing mostly gear that is ToAU oriented. Either rare/ex, or even crafted from ToAU items, the gear is cheap cause materials are easier to come by, and it's better than most gear you see around. So the expensive materials, like Gold ingots, Mythril Ingots, and such are much more USELESS because they are unnecassary (I just threw those in as expensive items, they probably still have uses although i know mythril has become a lot less usefull). Less use equals less need equals lower prices because crafters trying to get rid of their stuff.

5. The last thing is the fact there are a lot less newbs on the server. As much as we all like to laugh at the newbs, new players means people still needing the low end stuff. They buy cheap gear to start out, so crafters could still sell their wears, they have to lvl crafts so they will still buy crafting items, and they still do the gil missions, like rank missions and stuff with pump around 300k per nation per person into the server. do a /sea all rank 10 on the server then do a /sea all rank 2. I jsut did on caitsith, there was 678 rank 10's and only 68 rank 2's.

With that said, should they stop banning RMT due to failing economy? Obviously not. The lowered prices on some of the RMT monopolization is a good things, cause many items were grossly overpriced, and because of the tendency to not only camp 24/7 but bot made things difficult for any camper. Some of the things that SE should focus on is introducing new recipes for old items, expanding on rank missions to bring in more gil to the server (rank 20 reward 500k would be awesome and there is plenty of room for expansion) and marketing the game to bring in newer players, especially on the nex gen systems.

That is all I got to say.
rush to judgment
# Jun 27 2007 at 4:12 PM Rating: Decent
A few weeks ago, i was running from Bastok to Selbina with my level 20 mule (rank 2) to complete my sub-job quest, on my way a high level Taru mage, ask me if i need help and i said yes for my sub-job quest, he said ok (he invited me)lets go, then he started checking me and saw most of my gears were plus +1 and gears purchased from conquest points and he said nice gears, how did you get your gears? I got sources, but I didn't tell em I've got 2 high level char., so he said I need MP and started to rest, but I noticed he had 65% + mp left on em, and not knowing he was leaving me. ummm, and again I thought he just got disconnected, waited for a few minutes, 15, 30 min., he never came back.

I think He rush to judgment, he probably think iam a gil buyer, that was lame.
Good/Bad
# Jun 27 2007 at 8:07 AM Rating: Decent
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I know I'll probably get flamed for arguing this...
But in a way the bans have hurt the economy. With the RMT's gone though I believe it will eventually right itself and be alot better than before. Right now probably about 98% of items have their price dropping on my server. The other things though are mainly the expensive HQ gear. It's much harder to get that stuff now because it's harder to make gil. But I believe and hope that eventually if SE keeps hurting RMT, those will eventually go down too when noone can afford the high prices.

Believe me though, I cheer everytime I see something like this. I despise cheating and I consider buying gil to be a huge cheat. Not to mention it seems easier for people who need to camp something have a better chance of it. There needs to be a way to find and punish the buyers as much as the sellers though. The IGE getting sued is a good start and I'm hoping others follow. Speaking of, does anyone know any updates on that or is it still too early?

I'm also with the posts suggesting SE needs to focus on other ingame troubles too. But all in all I have to say Good Job SE. Keep it up.
RMTs
# Jun 26 2007 at 10:44 PM Rating: Default
In my opinion, the RMTs can help the economy, but hurt the players. The economy on kujata currently sucks. several items that were like 70k last year, are about 10k now (using silk thread in stacks as an example). It's going back to what it was like when I first started playing about 4 years ago. I remember helping my brother farm wind clusters on his level 30 war. He was in la'theine about 8 hours a day everyday over the summer, and we each took shifts farming the crystals. All in all, he sold about 1M worth of wind crystals to make his pld really good, and he still farms until he has the best armor he can have at his level (for tank and DD) on his pld. Personally, I think that banning the RMTs has its benefits, but removing all the gil from circulation has drastic effects on the economy of the servers, because items that were monopolized by the RMTs now have dropping majorly in price, but so have all the other items that people farm. People don't really care anymore if there item sells for the current going price, they just want it to sell as fast as possible. For example, I put 4 stacks of mythril ingots in the auction house in whitegate. People undercut the price of them so much it went down from 95k-65k and I barely managed to sell them for 70k. In the end, you are only hurting your own farm though.

Edited, Jun 27th 2007 12:45am by Chibaba
RMTs
# Jun 27 2007 at 9:54 AM Rating: Decent
Notice "can", doesnt mean always do. They kept prices for items that they camped constant, but now they are fluctuating rapidly, and if there is another inflation spikeand some items don't go back up, such as items that people farm regularly, then it will just be harder to make gil. But overall, I do like that SE is putting forth a lot on initiative in the process of banning all the RMTs they can
RMTs
# Jun 27 2007 at 5:52 AM Rating: Good
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the RMTs can help the economy
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several items that were like 70k last year, are about 10k now

Um, No. If prices of ALL items go down, where's the problem? Instead of farming 100 stacks of bee chips @ 50k to buy a 5mil SH now you only have to farm 100 stacks of bee chips @ 4k to buy a 400k SH. Its the same amount of farming. Please think before you post.
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RMTs
# Jun 28 2007 at 7:40 AM Rating: Decent
I would like to point out that not everything is going down proportionally. On my server (Unicorn) HQ's of most items have dropped little to none. where as the NQ's of the same item have dropped by large amounts. Silk Thread had gone from ~50k to a current ~10k last I had checked.

Yes, if ALL[i][/i][u][/u] the items went down, then there would be no problem. However this is not a perfect world and nearly nothing has gone down proportionally.
RMTs
# Jun 27 2007 at 1:23 AM Rating: Decent
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Chibaba wrote:
the RMTs can help the economy


RMTs don't help the economy, they ruin it by crippling the balance. By preventing people from obtaining items and gil themselves, they force people to buy gil. And they increase prices of items ingame in an attempt to get even more customers. Cheats, exploits, bots, anything goes as long as it earns the RMT companies money.
something stinks in Inner H. Ruins
# Jun 26 2007 at 8:42 PM Rating: Good
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There is a warrior in inner H. Ruins that kills gobs there for the gil round the clock 24 hours a day 7 days a week. I log in a few times a day to check to see if hes there and he is every time.

I went to inspect the area, when I found him it looked as if he was on auto-pilot while killing the gobs. He would run around and get stuck on objects and it would take a few seconds for him to right him self.

A GM was asked to look into it a couple of months ago, but the person is still there. I just know hes up to no good. Gobs dont drop a lot of gil but If someone got 1200 gil an hour killing them with some type of bot then they would have 28800 in a day. Now hes been there for atleats 3 months or more round the clock so thats close to 2600000 gil.

If he isn't using a bot to do this, then he has a squad of people farming for him or he an android that dont need sleep.

something stinks in Inner H. Ruins
# Jun 26 2007 at 11:11 PM Rating: Decent
Commander sandory wrote:
There is a warrior in inner H. Ruins that kills gobs there for the gil round the clock 24 hours a day 7 days a week. I log in a few times a day to check to see if hes there and he is every time.

If he isn't using a bot to do this, then he has a squad of people farming for him or he an android that dont need sleep.


LOL, there used to be a player on Bismarck that used to camp the Morion Worm 24/7/365, and I'm not joking. The players name was Lilyb....something if I remember right, but I might be wrong about the name, I think the account finally got banned 2 months ago(seeing as how thats the last time I saw the character, if I got the name wrong I apologize).

But ever since I started this game in April of last year and got my first job to 25 and actually went to Korroloka Tunnel that character had been there. And everytime I had to solo a job from 25-33 and then 40-45 I'd go to Korroloka Tunnel and that character was there.

The funny thing is, is that the character (whoever was controlling it) used to do a /check on me every now and then. And for some reason the person would do a /check on me everytime he/she passed by me once in a great while. So either it was the bot glitching everytime it passed by me every once and awhile, or the person was doing /checks on ppl constantly when he/she was controlling it to see what was selling.

So these ppl do use bots, but they do check in every once and awhile. And I can't imagine just how f**kin boring it would be to have to do that as a job, just sitting there farming and farming and farming and farming 24/7. I operate 5 TV Stations and that gets extremely boring, so I couldn't imagine having to do this for real money. Speed freaks and Methheads are the only ppl I think could handle RMT'ing for as long as that person did in Korroloka Tunnel on the Morion Worm, *if they were present for even half of it*. Especially seeing as how you need Iron Ore to pop the worm in the first place, lol.

Edited, Jun 27th 2007 1:14am by Nuhnisgodly
Graphics.
# Jun 26 2007 at 8:32 PM Rating: Decent
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I hope when they are done trying to hunt down these accounts that they shift their focus to fixing their game. They still have a little "made for Nvidia" logo on their site, but you can't play FFXI on Vista with a GeForce card and get more than 4fps in Whitegate.


THANK YOU!!!

I hope SE reads this. I've got a PC that can play the latest games with good graphics. PCIe 8800 Vista, Dual Core CPU but yet they're too lazy to convert the graphics engine from the processor base(as in the PS2) to a graphics card base for PC.
Good, but still...the game sucks in vista!
# Jun 26 2007 at 7:07 PM Rating: Decent
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I hope when they are done trying to hunt down these accounts that they shift their focus to fixing their game. They still have a little "made for Nvidia" logo on their site, but you can't play FFXI on Vista with a GeForce card and get more than 4fps in Whitegate.

Considering the RMT people will just apply for new credit cards and make new accounts, I just see this as a reocurring theme.
Not enough
# Jun 26 2007 at 5:36 PM Rating: Decent
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Yeah well, they are still shouting in Whitegate for sky gear. So whatever, SE fails. They said they would be banning those people soon and they didn't. They even gave us a place to report to the special task force, and we have, yet the most blatantly obvious people are still there.
All Rare/EX should be 100% drop
# Jun 26 2007 at 4:56 PM Rating: Good
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Do you think I like it when a Rank 2 or 3 runs by me and has a SH on, or Dusk Gear? While I'm sitting there having to farm for a week solid for just 1 piece of equip?


Just want to remind everyone that not all Low Rank Players are actually new. Some have just change 'nation of allegiance' to experience the story line from each nation.

But why can't they make the freaking R/E drops from NM a 100% drop? You can't sell it anyways. I've been 0/10 on Valis Bow (16-24 hrs respawn). 0/5 on Swift Belt (soloable codex mobs are camped by GS not to mention that codex itself isn't 100% drop and mobs respawn aren't short either).

I work and go to school. I have Alc and Cook to sustain me, but I don't really much have time to camp those NM and as a result I am gimped like most people would say, but I will play with what I have until people don't invite me because stupid people think I'm gimped without the godly gears.

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# Jun 26 2007 at 2:28 PM Rating: Default
i agree and disagree about the lowering dynamis cost, as far i know the price has always been the same, meaning when the game was new as was dynamis, it still cost the same even before the mass rmt insurgence. i would like to see the cost droped, but thats more out of a personal greed so my ls can get to letting money free drop sooner.

great job though se, now if we just rid of nanasii nanasi roxy and the like shouting to get ppl god gear permanetly
Sure...
# Jun 26 2007 at 10:34 AM Rating: Default
SE should just come ou with a site where you can buy gil directly from them with real $$$. That way the real $$$ spent can get put back into the game. If people weren't buying it, there would still be 6.4 billion gil somewhere in the game. It doesn't just disappear (for the most part).
Sure...
# Jun 26 2007 at 1:12 PM Rating: Good
CapnDbag wrote:
SE should just come ou with a site where you can buy gil directly from them with real $$$. That way the real $$$ spent can get put back into the game. If people weren't buying it, there would still be 6.4 billion gil somewhere in the game. It doesn't just disappear (for the most part).



Not sure what you meant by this, but if you mean that SE should sell gil I disagree with that. If SE starts selling gil to people I will probably quit because I am not gonna be in a game that ends up back where it was with people having tons of gil so prices can go back up. I will never buy gil ever and making it so others can buy gil is ridiculous. Play the game, make gil the honest way, and I am pretty sure SE makes enough money on this game as well as selling their console games to pay their bills so they wouldn't have to sell gil.
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# Jun 26 2007 at 1:10 PM Rating: Good
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Bad idea,

making the money in the game is how it should be. Not racking up the visa, where's the accomplishment in that?

You'll have folks with the uber gear on everything, and other's just scraping buy, who cannot afford to just buy gil when they want.
Sure...
# Jun 26 2007 at 2:47 PM Rating: Good
Zornov wrote:
Bad idea,

making the money in the game is how it should be. Not racking up the visa, where's the accomplishment in that?

You'll have folks with the uber gear on everything, and other's just scraping buy, who cannot afford to just buy gil when they want.



And how is that different then how it is now?

Do you think I like it when a Rank 2 or 3 runs by me and has a SH on, or Dusk Gear? While I'm sitting there having to farm for a week solid for just 1 piece of equip?

The ppl who are gil buyers, (especially the ones that don't get caught) are the ones that say the gil buyers should be kicked off the game, but then turn around and ***** someone out for not having the "uber" gear, especially when they aren't Rank 7 or higher and haven't spent alot of time farming themselves. I had a friend who bought 2 mil gil all the while ******** about Gil buyers, he was a Rank 7 and had barely hit 71 on his PLD. When he was about to lose his house and all his access to the game due to losing his job, he confessed to me that he had indeed bought gil for $30 or something around there. And I'm just sitting there like "Dude????" "You're sitting there agreeing with me about RMT's and Gil Buyers? And you turn out to be one of em????"

So the bottom-line is that you never know who the hell is buying gil, regardless of how well you thought you knew that person. I had played the game with this guy for about a year and had talked to him over XBoxlive several times while I was soloing and he was playing another game. And I thought I knew him pretty well, after a year of conversing. So I wouldn't put it past any of your friends ppl!

I don't like gil buyers, RMT's or those eleetists who ***** about gear that costs so GD much that it's ridiculious. So all of em can leave the game I couldn't care less if all of em did. At least I wouldn't have to look at Rank 2-3's running by me in "uber" gear, or having to struggle to get claim on mobs or NM's that RMT's and their bots are trying to as well, or have to listen to how I should have this or that piece of equip.....while I'm sitting there like "WTF?!...I'm not spending a whole month farming in order to pay for a piece of equip that is barely better then what I got, just to make you happy! >.>"

I have spent the past month just straight farming for pieces of equip, btw. Not because others say I should have them, but because I wanted those pieces and the piece that cost the least was at 100k >.> I have come to the point that I don't give a f**k what others think is "uber" pieces of equip, if I like it and think it's nice then I couldn't care less what they think about those pieces. As soon as someone opens up their mouth about it they go on my Blacklist, cuz I'm here to play the game, not spend all my time farming to make ppl happy about my equip.

I won't buy gil, period. Mainly cuz I don't have the money to do so, and I do get some satisfaction from farming my a@@ off to get my equip, even if it leaves me 10-15 levels behind someone who already has the gil for the same equip. But ppl need to stop getting so self-righteous about the bans, because honestly some of these ppl who do get that way are in fact gil-buyers who haven't been caught yet. But think of themselves as e-leet, so they haven't done anything wrong, so they aren't gil-buyers, they're just "good", cuz they can push a job from 1-75 in a matter of a few weeks cuz they have the gil for it. >.>

Done.......
Sure...
# Jun 26 2007 at 4:45 PM Rating: Good
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Nuhnisgodly,
Just because someone is Rank 2 or 3 and have a Scorpion Harness doesn't mean they buy gil.
Don't forget people switch nations to do the different missions and see all the storylines.
Otherwise, well said post.

Sure...
# Jun 26 2007 at 10:50 PM Rating: Decent
Algren wrote:
Nuhnisgodly,
Just because someone is Rank 2 or 3 and have a Scorpion Harness doesn't mean they buy gil.
Don't forget people switch nations to do the different missions and see all the storylines.
Otherwise, well said post.



True, true. But that being said, there are those ppl who are Rank 2-3 that do have that gear and do buy the gil. And they do /shout's or ask through /tell's the most basic questions about the game. There is a Rank 6 in my LS that asks the most obvious questions, while I'm sitting there scratching my head wondering why someone with a Rank 6 is asking such questions as "Why can't I access my MH in another city?", and the person has asked a few other questions that make me wonder if it is a bought account or what?.

But you are right about the nation switching, but not that many ppl actually do that. I have only come across 2 ppl in my past year and change that have done that. I had forgotten about that when I typed up my response, my bad. But I can't change it, because it still holds merit with the topic. But you did bring up a good point^^
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# Jun 27 2007 at 11:47 AM Rating: Decent
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I'm one of those players who switched nations to see storylines. Hit Rank 10 Bastok with my 75 Drk then switched to San d'Oria so yes I was a 75 Drk Rank 1 with good gear but no one actually bothered to say anything cause I didn't lvl/merit at all, I spent 5 days and got Rank 10 San d'Oria and now I'm Rank 6 Windurst. The statement is true about well geared players with low ranks sometimes to see the story or get the flags. Also the MAJOR reason most players don't switch nations is that you lose all your Outpost warps which makes sense since Rank 10's are usuall lvl 75, they need certain key OPs for HNM fights (Qufim, Vollbow, Li Telor etc.) Majority won't spend the time to wait for their new nation to control the area.

As for the RMT and gilbuyers some players are plain obvious. One sad thing was while I was in dunes powerlvling my girlfriend one of her party members noticed I was "high-lvl" and asked in /tell if I could escort him to Jeuno. He was a 17 War no sub and wondered why since he couldn't do chocobo quest. He told me straight up he needed to go pick up the gil he bought. I told him it was illegal and he replied with "so?". I couldn't screenshot the conversation (PS2 ><) but I called a GM to inspect my logs since he said outwardly he bought gil and was going to pick it up. GM said they'll look into it and there was one key thing I didn't ask the gilbuyer, I didn't ask him the companies name he bought gil from. No surprise the gilbuyer is still around doing fairly well with his gear.
wooo
# Jun 26 2007 at 9:52 AM Rating: Decent
Once again SE is on the attack, continuing to take out the ones that damage our playing experience. Startin to think of SE as a group of bounty hunters o.O
wooo
# Jun 28 2007 at 7:13 AM Rating: Decent
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I thought SE did have bounty hunters, or at least a task force for dealing with RMT.
Death from Above
# Jun 26 2007 at 9:17 AM Rating: Decent
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Using cheats to automatically repeat a particular action.


I think this is the first time I have seen them report banning ppl for using auto-casters. Ah, life is good.
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Thanks!
# Jun 26 2007 at 8:58 AM Rating: Decent
I would like to offer total, unreserved, and sincere congrats and thanks to SE for doing this. Not only doing it in the same month as the last round, but also telling us the "how many" details and for what.

Thanks, SE!
Dynamis
# Jun 26 2007 at 8:55 AM Rating: Decent
Much as I love to see gil sellers hurt, the economy is obviously affected as well. How about you lower the price of Dynamis like you did Limbus!
Goal..
# Jun 26 2007 at 8:25 AM Rating: Decent
Keep going, and going, and going, ppl never learn.
Burn, baby, burn.
# Jun 26 2007 at 7:40 AM Rating: Decent
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Gil prices are going through the roof!

Gilsellers are hurting like a fly in a pre-heating oven ^_^
Burn, baby, burn.
# Jun 26 2007 at 2:26 PM Rating: Decent
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They should just do this daily, since RMTs now prepare fresh accounts and level them up before their old ones are banned.

I just saw a train of rmts in Al Zahbi yesterday, all lvl 30 and up
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