You guys all ***** about not being able to use your knockdown shot 20 times in a row now... oh no you might actually have to use technique and strategy instead of just standing there and knocking your adversary on the ground and massacring it. Maybe you should save the knockdowns until they are low on health or your health is getting low.

I was on vacation during all the patches and I came back and played and all I noticed was that the letters were differant. CH needed to be nerfed, and that guy ******** about being killed by a worrt is bull ****. Today I was bored while I was running to my house so I was just killing the worrts... in one bodyshot2. Stop your whining... this patch is just setting things up for better things to come...

Anyone looking to buy Bounty Hunter on Lowca?? E-mail me in game. This BS is way too much I will go play spider solitare

Zorender
Lowca

LMAO what a bunch of losers SOE are!!! Can't get the things that need fixing corrected, like having to take off your armor before logging off or when u log on u will have negative stats, No SOE fixes the way entertainers dance. Pathetic is the only word comes to mind.

ALMOST 4 YEARS IN BETA WTF were they doing???

Zorender
Lowca

Just now, my SurveyorIV surveyed a 92% density of Platinite Copper, but when he went to Sample it, it said there were insufficient resources to sample.

That meant I couldn't complete the Artisan mission I took on.

as i had mentioned earlier,but perhaps not made clear,is the fact that everything that was hard when you are a newbie,eventually becomes easier,as you gainskills.but after the patch today,the mobs that killed me when i was a newbie,are now killing me as a smuggler....perhaps you might think prior to calling people crybabys,i guess your character(the one your mom probly pays for) has not been so drastically affected,so until you have a major problem in the game like some of us,stop bad mouthing those who enjoyed the game very much prior to this patch.

yeah this new patch has it good sides.. as of the CH handling stuff.. i mean come on some one who made novice CH hasa rancor by his side.. lol thats silly.
im not sure how the artisans 'the real victims' are suppossed to pay for anything.
i just hope they fix some of the problems we point out.

Clearly there are many problems with this patch but if you are an Artisan the mission reward nerf is not necessarily one of them. I was, like all of you, greatly disappointed with the nearly 60% decrease in mission rewards (combat missions)but then I ran a few artisan missions and noticed a few things that started me doing some calculations. The end result of these calculations was the discovery that my income per hour had nearly doubled.

Here is how I reached that particular conclusion. To begin with I was previously running level 9 combat missions killing light blue gnorts for approximately 2200 credits per mission with an average travel distance to the gnort warren of approximately 1500 meters. Naturally I was taking two missions at a time as any smart person does. This was generating for me approximately 4500 credits per "mission cycle". Prior to tonight I had never really calculated the time involved in a single cycle and had never given any thought to my earnings per minute or hour. I began to give it a great deal of thought once I started the artisan missions.

My first artisan mission was a long drawn out affair which involved me surveying, moving to the waypoint, rinsing and repeating until I had arrived at a spot with the necessary concentration to fulfill the mission requirements. This was slow and tedious and was hardly worth the reward. Then I hit upon the idea of locating a really good concentration of any of the three categories of resource that appear to be listed for missions (metal, ore and gas). I also made sure that the concentration was past the 512 meter distance requirement from the mission terminal but still as close as possible to the terminal. In this case I was able to find a 70+% concentration of gas just beyond the 512 mark.

At this point I returned to the mission terminal and spammed the refresh button until I had two missions for gas that gave the maximum reward (the highest I have seen is 900 credits for a resource concentration of 70%). Having marked the waypoint back to my resource survey I turned it on and headed back to the spot. When I got there I hit my hotkey for surveying and watched two "Mission Complete" messages pop up on the screen. I had made a note of the time I began searching for missions at the terminal and then the elapsed time until the mission was complete. The result was almost exactly three minutes. Back to town and the terminal I went which again took about three minutes. Round trip the entire mission cycle took 6 minutes to complete yielding an "Earnings Per Minute" rate of 300 credits.

Doing some rough estimates based on my extensive combat mission experience (yeah it takes money to keep those extractors going) I derived the earnings rate for combat missions. If it takes 3 minutes to travel 500 meters and the average combat mission I was running in the past was 1500 meters from the mission terminal then it must have been taking me about 9 minutes to reach the first waypoint (if I was lucky enough not to have to run way out of the way to avoid aggresive mobs). I figure it took about 5 minutes to clear a warren and destroy it (a guess but it feels right so I will use it). No two combat missions are ever right on top of each other but they are sometimes close so I picked the arbitrary distance between missions to be 500 meters which means 3 minutes to travel to mission number 2 and another 5 minutes or so to complete the second mission. With this mission complete I will still find myself approximately 1500 meters or 9 minutes from town. This means it takes roughly 30 minutes to complete a cycle of two combat missions and get back to the mission terminal for more. Taking into consideration the previously mentioned rate of 4500 credits per mission cycle this gives an hourly earnings of 9000 credits or 150 credits per minute, half the current rate I am getting for the new artisan missions.

I will admit that the combat mission figures are estimates as I did not run any tonight to confirm the numbers but I feel they are pretty close to accurate. I can say from experience that using this method I made about 20K tonight in just over an hour running artisan missions. Clearly if you can't find a high concentration of one of the holy trinity of resources close to town the earnings rate will drop. In my experience though there is always a high concentration of something near town. This could be coincidence or my imagination but it seems to hold true for me. I don't expect this method to always be viable due to resource shifts and the accompanying shift in concentrations but if you take advantage of the opportunity when it is available you should be able to rely on your cash reserves to get you through any bad resource shift. I know for now I am going to be running my little Rodian butt off for as long as my gas can survive the resource shift. Best of luck to the rest of you :)

Stop whinning, ohh no u cant kill something in one hit, poor baby, now u actully have to try to kill something. Too bad knockdown doesnt work as good and takes away a lot of HAM. Just feal lukcy you got to play the game when you could take advantage of knockdown and amazing damage. Kown what would make the game more fun, If they took of the AI on mobs and they just sat there and did nothing, that way u would have to waist your HAM killing things. People need to be more rational to whats fare and whats just plane easy. Maybe thoughs he dont like how hard it is should play patty cake, you cant lose at that.

Well im a TKM and if i perform 2 special moves now with my knucklers on im 95% dead. guess we should all pick up guns and start playing quake because hand to hand combat in this game just died

Wow, way to ***** everything up.

So, I log in today, got tired of reading the huge list, so i kinda scaned it. Well, went to a vendor a bought some new armor. paid about 60k for the set. each peice was over the new 3k limit. So I get the armor try it on it looks great. So I leave the house, and poof there goes my armor, just disapeared.

So now I'm out 60k, 60k I was more than happy to spend on the top quality suit. Now I need to get some more money and it's gonna take twice as long the way they have reduced the rewards for missions.

I sure hope they fix this.

so 3k is the max price for a large house if you get your vendor to sell it? who the hell thought that was a good idea?

Wow, i ust took a shuttle, and ended up in the middle of a battle field. now odd

And the worst nerf yet ... limiting personal vendors to 3K just like the bazaar ... so now master weapons crafters have to be online and conduct high-cost sales personaly ... woot.