Are Humans *Really* The Good Guys?

Sam Maxted speculates about run of the mill baddies in MMO's being anything but the barbarically evil force we've been told about. Are Humans really the good guys? Find out in our hysterical editorial.

Everywhere we look in MMOs, Humans are the good guys. They stand united under a single banner and represent all that is good and right in the world. Standing shoulder to shoulder with their allies (or, in the case of dwarves, shoulder to crotch), they fight valiantly - and successfully - against the forces of evil. However, as I'm sure you're aware, this often isn't the case in the real world. It's at this point that I'd like to ask how accurate Human's portrayal is in MMOs and whether the "evil" races are just victims of propaganda.

Truth be told, we know that Humans are far from noble. Jails are full to bursting, children are bullied at school and bankers have all our money (or at least they did, until they lost it down the back of the sofa or bought another corporate jet). All this points towards one thing: as a species, if we think we can get away with something, we'll probably give it a go. How else can you explain doping in sports events, or kids cheating on their tests? This attitude permeates all levels of our society, from convenience store robberies to political scandals at the highest levels of government.

Continuing along the same lines, we only need to look at the leaders of various countries to see that Humans aren't all good and noble. Whack jobs like Stalin and Idi Amin keep managing to get into power, with the only bonus being that since the Middle Ages, they're stopped short of marrying their cousins. Unlike in MMOs, Humans also don't have a world leader - a single person that we can look up to and aspire to be. We're also unlikely to have one, as anyone managing to get themselves into this position would be at worst another whack job, and at best a reject from Pinky and the Brain. Given that this is the case, I find it unlikely that human monarchs in MMOs are really as noble as we're led to believe.


Only a species obsessed with world domination could've come up with Pinky and the Brain.

People can even become drunk on power in MMOs, given half a chance. After all, how many times have you heard about guild leaders going on power trips, or seen people complaining about ninja looters in the public chat channels? Not only this, but player courtesy's on the decline and publishers need to have strict User Agreements and Rules of Conduct to keep us in check. Without these restrictions, there'd be nothing to prevent the assholes among us from ruining things for everyone else and stealing everything that isn't nailed down. Should this ever happen, it would prove two things: firstly, that bankers like their online games and, secondly that MMOs' portrayals of Humans can't possibly be true. However, it's not just Humans that are the issue here - could the representation of the so-called "evil" races be just as biased?

Traditionally, it has been more difficult to play an evil race in MMOs than it has to play a good one. Travelling in the early days of Everquest was a pain in the butt for Trolls, Dark Elves and Ogres, with all the major ports being under the control of the "good" races. Sure, things have got better since then, but in many ways "evil" races are still treated as second-class citizens. Simply because they're branded as evil, many players don't want to play Orcs and the like, instead opting for races that don't look like they've been hit in the face with a frying pan.


An accurate representation, or anti-Orc propaganda?

Speaking of which, why are Orcs usually portrayed as being stupid, savage and butt ugly? We only have Humans' word for it that they're like this, so can we really trust such a one-sided portrayal? Propaganda has been used to great effect throughout the years and, while there may be the occasional moment of insight into what's really happening, some people become so accustomed to hearing a particular opinion that they start to accept it as their own. Well, I for one am sick of the rampant speciesism in MMOs today. It seems that in this case, racism has gone out of the window: black and white have got together in order to gang up on green.

For all we know, Orcs and the other "evil" races could be peace-loving creatures, forced into war against Humans and their allies, defending themselves with whatever weapons they can cobble together. We only have humans' word for it that Orcs are evil, bloodthirsty and stupid - something designed to make is easier on our consciences while we slaughter them like animals. I put it to you that these races are more intelligent than they've been given credit for and are merely defending their land against foreign invaders.

We don't want to admit it, but Humans are frequently selfish, unpleasant and capable of such atrocities as The Jerry Springer Show, Elf Online and anything involving Simon Cowell. In short, Humans can be real bastards and we're only getting one side of the story in our MMOs. In the absence of any Orc-developed MMOs, we only have Humans' take on what the other races are really like. History is always written by the victors, so it's likely that Orcs, Trolls and the like are victims of a massive smear campaign, designed to make ourselves look better.


The true face of evil?

So the next time you create a character in an MMO, you might want to think again about whether Humans are really the good guys, or if they're cold-hearted bastards bent on world domination. Please spare a thought to the Trolls and Ogres of this world: are they really the monsters they're made out to be, or just misunderstood and misrepresented? I know what I think, so I'll leave you with the following thought:

Go good. Go green.

 

The editorial you've just read contains views that are the opinion of the author and not necessarily the views of ZAM.com. Also, you might have noticed the above is in fact very silly and the author mainly plays the "good" races in MMOs, like everyone else.

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humans
# Apr 28 2009 at 4:28 AM Rating: Good
The parallel can be draw from the game that it is the human players who make up the different races of the game. Each human makes the choice of where they want there life to go, by choosing one faction or another reflects the diversity that is humankind.We see it all the time in our daily lives, one person might smile at you or say a cheerful hello where another might glare at you and call you a name or give an obscene gesture.When you see and and here the actions in the game ponder a bit at the nature that drives that person to be kind or cruel to you.....
stupidity
# Apr 27 2009 at 9:42 PM Rating: Default
you cant bloody compare things in wow to real life!!! in real life the only true sentient beings are humans so who else is there???
in wow the humans are surrounded by other beings with equal greater or just a little less intelligence and im sure if that was the case in real life we would all band together like they do in wow to defeat the "evil" common enemy then when we do then infight haha but seriously they are good and its not some propagana **** thats just stupid over all humans arnt toooooo just we dont all the differnt races and nations of humans in real life dont ahvea common belief system or foe to rally to/against if we did then im pretty sure wed be all for it and kick some alien/monster *** jsut like we did way back in the day with neanderthals kicked thier *** ioff the earth anyway all in all ya cant compare real life **** to stuff in games thats jsut idiotic
moo
# Apr 27 2009 at 12:15 PM Rating: Excellent
Ever think that the orcs like how they look? I would be willing to put money on it that they perceive the humans as the ugly ones.
Trolls are the best
# Apr 27 2009 at 8:52 AM Rating: Excellent
I play a beautiful troll, proud and noble. My glowing green skin, my shining tusks and my radiant blue mohawk are all testements to the inherent beauty of the troll race.

Plus, our women dance REAL nicely...

That is all.
you do realize this is a joke right?
# Apr 26 2009 at 9:00 AM Rating: Good
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I think what totally floors me is how many people took this post as SERIOUS. Come on now folks. Read it again. Read it carefully. You're all getting offended over nothing!
you do realize this is a joke right?
# Apr 26 2009 at 9:51 AM Rating: Decent
My post in this thread was just meant to add to the conversation, and draw another parallel to real life and the worlds portrayed in MMOs. I was neither offended nor was I taking this topic all that seriously, just adding some lively discussion much like the original article writer did. After all, that is the whole point of posting an article like this...to start a conversation. This is how all discussions or philosphical debates begin, by someone posting an article or speaking on a topic such as this and people respnding to it. In reality, it's unlikely that anyone else who posted below was taking this all that seriously either, they were merely adding in their "2 cents". I had at one point thought of adding to my post that the next time people see an Orc or Troll, they should give em a big hug instead of fearing or attacking them, to add some levity to it...but I didn't. Maybe I should have though, that way nobody would've taken my post that seriously either. :)

Edited, Apr 26th 2009 1:53pm by Graymalkin

Edited, Apr 26th 2009 1:54pm by Graymalkin

Edited, Apr 26th 2009 2:11pm by Graymalkin
are humans really the good guys
# Apr 25 2009 at 6:31 PM Rating: Good
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I hope OP is kidding if not he needs a reality check, orcs and such are fiction nothing more.But some of the post i read,,wow guys its a game.Some dude wrote he was on alliance then seen all the power hungry humans rolled a hode and created a toon that all alliance and horde alike can look up to, lol. I played both sides lvl all the way up,human and blood elf,,guess what? I found no difference in how people played the game cuzz were ALL humans.Your not really an orc ,lol or tauren. Some people need to stop playing.
RE: are humans really the good guys
# Apr 26 2009 at 1:11 AM Rating: Decent
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I was reading up on any further posts made to this particular thread and had come across this one post left. Well, I am that "dude" you are referring to. To give some more info in my defense, number one, I don't play the game NEARLY as much as some players do. Number two, I was simply conveying how things have been played out on the particular server I'm on and how it relates to this topic. I'm just making a point that the way the humans and "good" races are acting is not at all in a good way and that we as "roleplayers" are not living up to more along the storyline and coming more across as who we really are in real life. And because we do put a little bit of ourselves into the character, I AM more like the gentle and kind Tauren I made and will stand by my friends, family and yes, even my enemy if it's for a common cause. I believe every person is a good person until I'm shown otherwise and I treat my fellow players the same way that I do in real life. And as to how you took my post, well, you seem to look at it as though I'm some nut-job who believes it's my "real life". I know it's a game and it's not reality. And when I write, I think things through pretty thoroughly and sometimes imaginatively to help paint a better picture for those that read it. I want people to understand what I'm trying to say. Finally, if you can't "place yourself in the shoes of your character", figuratively speaking, you're missing out on some of the best parts of the game....interacting with fellow players and actually doing some "roleplaying". After all, if it weren't for people such as the original D&D'ers, we probably wouldn't have the MMO's we currently play.
Another Parallel To Ponder
# Apr 25 2009 at 4:48 PM Rating: Good
This article was very well written. I myself have always liked the idea of playing the "other side" or the "evil races", as they always seem to be the underdogs. While reading this, it brought to mind another parallel.

In most MMOs, it seems that evil races are almost always represented by the so-called "ugly" races (Orcs, Trolls, etc..), and the pretty or beautiful races are always the good guys. This parallels our own society in the way that most unattractive or "ugly" people are often tormented, outcast and despised by the so-called "beautiful" people. Take some examples from literature:

In "The Hunchback of Notre Dame", the hunchback himself was actually a very gentle and kind soul, who was hated and feared by the people because he was "ugly". But in reality, it was actually the master he served who was the truly wicked and evil one.

Or in Mary Shelley's "Frankenstein", he was considered a monster, when in fact he was the creation of a mad scientist who sought to play God. The monster was again another misunderstood soul who simply tried to find out his place in the world like anyone else, but was rejected by society for his "ugliness".

Even Cyrano could not tell the woman he loved how he felt because he feared she would reject him because of his long "ugly" nose.

And in our own real world, Hollywood and the Media create unrealistic images of beauty, and try to make us feel bad about ourselves. This is especially felt by women the most, as they are made to feel that if they are not some skinny, big breasted supermodel type or if they have any weight on em, that they will not be accepted and have to change their appearance to fit the idea of what "beauty" really is. This leads to problems like Anorexia and Bulimia, which are common amongst women, especially teenage girls. And plastic surgery (like Botox and such), is on the rise as more and more people try to maintain their "beauty" (and often these procedures are done in abundance and end up making them look worse). In reality, it is more often that the so-called "beautiful people" are the ugliest on the inside, as they are often shallow, self-involved, self-important egotists who believe they are God's gift to the world and tend to treat anyone else like crap (take Naomi Campbell for example).

A good example of this would be the High Elves (or Blood Elves, or Highborne). They are a race of "beautiful people" who believed themselves to be superior to all others, even their own brothers and sisters the Night Elves. This arrogance led to their self-destructive behavior and use of magic to further their own selfish ambitions...which almost caused the destruction of Azeroth itself. And if you look at this as support of the "Horde is evil" factor, remember that this race of pretty people was only added to the Horde side in an attempt to try and create an even balance of players between the Horde and Alliance. If not for that imbalance, the High Elves could very well have ended up as another "pretty" Alliance race (just take the Highborne in The Hinterlands for an example of this).

So next time you look at an "ugly" race, try to look past the surface and see what they're really about. After all, if you remember the story of Warcraft 3, it was the Humans who came off looking pretty evil there. Blizzard tried to build on this fact more with the ill-fated and ultimately cancelled Warcraft adventure game that had you playing as Thrall during his internment, and showing the nobility of the Orc race and the ugliness that could sometimes be present in the Humans.

Edited, Apr 25th 2009 9:15pm by Graymalkin
Jails are full to bursting,..
# Apr 25 2009 at 1:55 PM Rating: Decent
They wouldn't be if we were allowed to execute people.
Fiction is always some portrait of (or portal to) reality
# Apr 25 2009 at 6:18 AM Rating: Excellent
Mankind is capable of the greater good to the greater evil. We create Gods of virtue and transgress our own moral codes for greed, power or lust.

Of all the fantasy or science fiction tales I've read or heard about, the authors were always human, right? No Orc ever told me how their own race was ugly and aggressive. People create stories and legends about mythical creatures that are always inspired from facts of the human history and if you think about it, you will find the link rather easily. And when they take time to explain the origin of the traits of the 'evil' races, they do so by recalling some old treachery or treason (spellcheck please).

Man does such horrible things and in games and books, we like to see those acts coming from an ugly race instead of our own. We reject the fault on the half of the devil, some evil corrupting power and sometime this fault is blamed on other human races (racism, hello? oooh... jews will own the world, we ***** must stop them! America is weakening, it must have something to do with the ******* we enslaved! The world hates us, its all because of the islamist terrorist propaganda! ...yeah right). Mankind has flaws and one of them is not accepting its flaws. Of course we can think it can lead to an ever-improvement ideal, but admitting it is just soooo hard. How many times have you heard man of power say ''Sorry, we shouldn't have done that'' Maybe its because we got tired of apologizing when we were kids, now its someone else's turn to say sorry. And the blame game continues.

Fantasy video games use fictive races to make it easier on the players. ¨I'll destroy my neighboring countries because they are rampaging orc thieves hugging all the ressources¨ is easier said then ¨Yeah, we Americans should invade Canada cuz... well we want some water and electricity but don't wanna pay for it.¨

Also think of this, even though there are games like city of villains and dongeon keeper, i don't recall any WW2 game where we play the axis while clearly defining that the rest of the world must be purged of inferior races. Hmm... sounds like Arthas or the Scarlet crusade no? Well what do you know?! they are also depicted as evil and corrupted...by a demon oOooOOoo... (big excuse) :) have fun and remember, GTA is a game, not a life simulator.


Fiction is always some portrait of (or portal to) reality
# Apr 25 2009 at 7:54 AM Rating: Excellent
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Very well written and supported, bravo!
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Fiction is always some portrait of (or portal to) reality
# Apr 25 2009 at 10:18 AM Rating: Good
I agree.

There IS a very good book out and on it's way to be a series of the storyline being FROM the Orcs perspective:
ORCS : by Stan Nicholls

Quote:
Look at Me. Look at the Orc.

There is fear and hatred in your eyes. To you I am a monster, a skulker in the shadows, a fiend to scare your children with. A creature to be hunted down and slaughtered like a beast in the fields.

It is time you pay heed to the beast. And see the beast in yourself. I have your fear. But I have earned your respect.

Hear my story. Feel the flow of blood and be thankful. Thankful that it was me, not you, who bore the sword. Thankful to the Orcs; born to fight, destined to win peace for all.




An excellent book from an Orc's band perspective.
and finally
# Apr 25 2009 at 1:16 AM Rating: Decent
And a bigger comment, is on the main page leading into this PC rant:

Truth be told, we know that Humans are far from noble. Jails are full to bursting, children are bullied at school and bankers have all our money (or at least they did, until they lost it down the back of the sofa or bought another corporate jet). All this points towards one thing: as a species, if we think we can get away with something, we'll probably give it a go. How else can you explain doping in sports events, or kids cheating on their tests? This attitude permeates all levels of our society, from convenience store robberies to political scandals at the highest levels of government.


Please tell me what in any way this has to do with any MMORPG?
and finally
# Apr 25 2009 at 7:57 AM Rating: Excellent
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This is probably your best post so far. But I still think you may be a Troll and not a Human.
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so
# Apr 25 2009 at 12:57 AM Rating: Decent
So clearly it was brought into it by the author that he/she is opposed to Jerry Springer (not a wow or race that I have seen) Simon Cowell (again, nothing to do with MMORPG's, but when I mention obammy and algore I get censored?

Too funny. I never post here anyway other than this, but to say this was all in jest is just drinking the koolaid sweety, it was a clear political statement by the author and you like it, so I get zapped. lol.
Offending?
# Apr 25 2009 at 12:50 AM Rating: Decent
and another quote from this "non-political" piece:

So the next time you create a character in an MMO, you might want to think again about whether Humans are really the good guys, or if they're cold-hearted bastards bent on world domination. Please spare a thought to the Trolls and Ogres of this world: are they really the monsters they're made out to be, or just misunderstood and misrepresented? I know what I think, so I'll leave you with the following thought:

Go good. Go green.




Ummm, I do not care about being "green", as I said in my post you erased, go worship algore at your alter, but do not say this is not a "political statement" when it clearly is.
Offending?
# Apr 25 2009 at 12:48 AM Rating: Decent
here is a quote:

We don't want to admit it, but Humans are frequently selfish, unpleasant and capable of such atrocities as The Jerry Springer Show, Elf Online and anything involving Simon Cowell. In short, Humans can be real bastards and we're only getting one side of the story in our MMOs. In the absence of any Orc-developed MMOs, we only have Humans' take on what the other races are really like. History is always written by the victors, so it's likely that Orcs, Trolls and the like are victims of a massive smear campaign, designed to make ourselves look better.


I find this highly offensive. So why is this even a topic here?
Offending?
# Apr 25 2009 at 12:46 AM Rating: Decent
OK, so my comments were zapped. What if I am offended by the entire post, mainly that 'humans are bad". So I am really highly offended by the entire thread. And it was not in jest, it was a political statement. It listed corrupt things humans have done and did not mention maybe other "races" bringing it on themselves.

So basically, as a human, I am offended, highly. So why not just remove this thread instead of censoring comments you disagree with ?
Offending?
# Apr 25 2009 at 7:52 AM Rating: Excellent
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Why alliance is more popular
# Apr 25 2009 at 12:37 AM Rating: Decent
Generally I think that alliance is more popular is because there are a lot more human like beautiful races and most of people in the MMORPG wants to play characters that portraits their self image. This is why human and night elf races have always been most popular races inside the alliance. Human have always been most popular race even fact that human have been most weakest racial skills haven’t chanced that.

This has happened virtually every MMO that humans and human like races are most popular.
Why alliance is more popular
# Apr 25 2009 at 8:28 AM Rating: Excellent
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Jakerp wrote:
Generally I think that alliance is more popular is because there are a lot more human like beautiful races and most of people in the MMORPG wants to play characters that portraits their self image. This is why human and night elf races have always been most popular races inside the alliance. Human have always been most popular race even fact that human have been most weakest racial skills haven’t chanced that.

This has happened virtually every MMO that humans and human like races are most popular.


Replying to your post and then expanding on it...

This is very true, as we all like to be thought of as beautiful. I know I do, and when I create a human [etc] she is more than likely to be as pretty as I can make her. (I don't play males) This is also why WoW got a Blood Elves to even out the "ugly" of the Horde. IMO to each their own, create it how YOU want, who cares what anyone else thinks. However, in the end, I prefer Horde. I like the game play better and there is way less cybering requests in my experience.

If I play Alliance, not using the word Human as it didn't fit for my purpose, I roleplay that the Horde is evil. If I play Horde, the Alliance is evil. Real world comments and events are used to show a point or a similarity, but it all boils down to this... we are all HUMAN. I can pretty much guarantee each person posting [playing] is one, I have my doubts on a few, but I can't be certain. Smiley: sly

These games are created to get you out of your current reality and to enjoy something different. If you want to play an evil human, go for it. EverQuest was wrought with them, and some "good" Dark Elves, and no one really cared as long as they had fun. If you are playing these types of games, get out there and play them the way you want to play them. Just as when you read a new book of fantasy/fiction, you interpret it your way, as does everyone else. I will use a real life example here, hope I don't get in trouble! Smiley: laugh

When there is an accident, or event I should say, everyone has their own story. 5 people can view an event and when you ask each of them about it, you will get 5 different stories. We are each individuals and it's a damn good thing, it'd be pretty boring around here if we all thought the same and/or looked the same. I prefer the colors black and purple, someone else may like maroon *makes eww sounds* but that makes life more colorful. Maybe the gossip game in grade school may be a better illustration, oops more real life human crap again! But I remember the first person thinks of a sentence and then tells the next person. By the time it gets around to the last person and they say it out loud, it's nothing remotely like what the original comment was. It all comes down to interpretation. Divorce is another example, but that's ugly no matter which side you are on, and someone has to be the bad guy.

Let's be honest, have you ever seen an Orc in real life, really? Has anyone here ever read a book by Tauren? I'd really like to meet a vampire, those teeth are a turn on!

Ultimately it comes to this: Good vs. Evil. And that will probably never change, no matter which side you are on.

One last note: if you can't stand to read real life human stories, stay immersed in game and never minimize your screen... EVER. We, humans, will be out here enjoying life whether it's in game or out.
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Good or Bad
# Apr 25 2009 at 12:36 AM Rating: Good
If I remember right those Orcs that attacked humans where corrupted by burning legion with insane rage and those orcs that are horde now are the ones that escaped burning legions slavery just like undeads in the horde are ones that escaped scourges mindless slavery just to obey will on the lich king.

Taurens on the other hands are very noble race that are allied with orcs only because orcs saved Taurens from centraurs.

After all it was human (Art has) who perfected Scourges plans by getting corrupted from froustmourne and then murdering his own father and virtually destroying half of the world.
Damn gnome propaganda
# Apr 25 2009 at 12:18 AM Rating: Good
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Damn gnome propaganda


if you hadn't noticed, i think this was hardcore tongue in cheek... pinky and the brain? come on now folks. don't be daft
Damn gnome propaganda
# Apr 25 2009 at 6:10 AM Rating: Good
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Quote:
if you hadn't noticed, i think this was hardcore tongue in cheek... pinky and the brain?


That's pretty much the case. Extra points if you noticed the disclaimer at the bottom:

"The editorial you've just read contains views that are the opinion of the author and not necessarily the views of ZAM.com. Also, you might have noticed the above is in fact very silly and the author mainly plays the "good" races in MMOs, like everyone else."
Huh ?
# Apr 25 2009 at 12:01 AM Rating: Good
Most here come to escape reality ... don't bring it up ... there is no relevance.
For WoW, I've been saying that for a long time
# Apr 24 2009 at 8:15 PM Rating: Good
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Humans (and the alliance in general) are the bad guys in the Warcraft universe.

For the most part, the Horde pretty much wants to be left alone to find their own way.

Humans - insane racists. Drove the blood elves out of the alliance with their racism. Their King is a raving racist madman that, if there is any sense of storytelling with the WoW development team, will quite possibly bring ruin to his people.

Dwarves / Gnomes - The only faction with a quest to KILL CHILDREN (troll whelps)

Night Elves - Elves are pretty much responsible for every single major world disaster

Draenei (however it's spelled) - relatively blameless, but they did crash a huge ship and destroy a local eco-system
For WoW, I've been saying that for a long time
# Apr 24 2009 at 10:01 PM Rating: Decent
That's not an entirely accurate account there Yngvie
The Horde wants to be left alone for the most part but only so long as you only call the tauren the Horde. The Orcs are engaging in genocide against the Quillboar (to the point where the Quillboar made a "Devil's Deal" with the Scourge)

The Trolls have some awfully cruel quests to help them come up with creatively unpleasant ways to dispatch prisoners.

The Forsaken are actively trying to wipe out all human life with an assortment of plagues and unpleasant curses. They also have some quests along the line of the trolls where you gather ingredients so you can torture and poison a prisoner the only difference is the Trolls do it for fun and the Forsaken do it for Science

The Tauren are pretty much blameless and peaceful just aiding there allies and otherwise wanting to be left alone.

The Blood Elves are less evil than they started out but it was their ancestors that are responsible for pretty much every major world disastor. (not the night elves although they were there too, I mean somebody had to stop the bad stuff the Highborn were doing)

The Humans in wow are not insane racists, not the good guys certainly, but not insane either. The reason the orcs were in concentration camps was the humans didn't know what to do with them. The Orcs did after all attack them without provocation and nearly wipe the humans out but 10 years earlier. It's understandable that the humans (and the Dreani for that matter) would be slow to trust orcs after that. Now many of the humans are racist it was certainly a racist that drove the elves away but that's not to say that all humans wanted that.
I don't know anything about the current human king so you could be right about that (he certainly looks pissed off)

Gnomes/Dwarves are for the most part blameless. The troll whelps are invaders on the dwarven lands not children. The dwarves are however getting a little careless with their excavations.

Night Elves are pretty much blameless (see tauren) Not responsible for the major disastors. that was the Highborne (who became the High and Blood Elves). The Night Elves were just the other elves around that weren't involved in magic. The only thing they are doing wrong is not getting after the dwarves for their careless digging and the disruption it causes but the same could be said of the tauren when it comes to the orcish deforestation.

Dreani are pretty much blameless (but if you blame the Night elves for the things that their relatives did then you could also blame the Dreani for the Burning Legion as well)

Incidently The Lich King is a former human paladin and a former Orc shaman. (Ner'zull is still in there after all)


Edited, Apr 25th 2009 2:06am by TheRealEvilJames
Where I come from, Horde is the way to go!
# Apr 24 2009 at 7:51 PM Rating: Excellent
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Here here!! I have been playing WoW for some time now, getting started when BC had only been out for a couple months and I admit, I did start out playing Alliance like most of my other friends, playing a gnome warlock. But then after only just a small amount of time, I came to realize after seeing and hearing about the Horde side of things, I was on the wrong side. I had seen the Alliance characters be more aggressive, more power hungry, more warmongering than the Horde, in which there had been more help coming from them in normal everyday quests/fights than Alliance characters. I was seeing the ole' Musketeer saying change from "All for one and one for all" to "All for one and all for me!"

So, I made Shaka, my Tauren warrior. I set out to make him the kind of toon that Horde and Alliance alike could look up to. The kind that Thrall would be proud to have considered as an ally and friend. I helped Alliance toons when they were in a fix as well Horde. Fast forward an expansion and several patches later. Shaka still holds to those principals, but lately, it's been getting harder to keep them. With Shaka being a miner, Sholozar Basin is a great place to farm Saronite and Titanium. This time, I witnessed first hand the greediness of Alliance players. Most seeing me fighting off mobs 1, 2 or sometimes 3 at a time while I'm trying to reach a mining node. Do they help me out so I can get to what would be rightfully mine? I have to give an emphatic NO!!! They just go up to the node and mine away and then fly away without so much as lifting a weapon, or a finger so to speak to cast even an aoe spell, to help me out. It got to the point that I, and many other fellow Horde players are changing our ways.

"To get respect, you have to give respect." Alliance players, be warned now. On the server that I play, Horde may be outnumbered 3 or 4 to 1, but we will NOT go gently into the night. We are fighting back only because we are tired of being looked at as second-rate, tired of getting tread upon like insects, and tired of being the ones called evil. After watching the trailer that was brought out for Ulduar, the "meeting" between Alliance and Horde, it's the Alliance that should be ashamed of their leader King Wrynn and the Horde praise Thrall for berating his second-in-command for his actions and the willingness that Thrall shows for wanting to work side-by-side with the Alliance for a common threat. Now I present to you, who's the evil, savage and stupid one and who's the good, refined and smart one: King Wrynn or Thrall? Choose wisely my friend.
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# Apr 24 2009 at 4:08 PM Rating: Excellent
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Only the people of 'Zam could write up a critical real-world dilemma caramel-filling topped up with humor-biscuit and encoated with gamer chocolate.
#REDACTED, Posted: Apr 24 2009 at 4:04 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) So sorry you alliance SCHLUB, humans are NOT the heroes, they are vanilla and generic, for those who lack imagination. Try playing Horde, better yet DON'T, stay on the human side and keep whining, we have enough 2 year olds on the honorable side now....Go HORDE Go :)
#REDACTED, Posted: Apr 24 2009 at 3:52 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Please stop wasting WOW time with this PC BS. Everything will be fine, if you want to turn this into some kind of Obama PC forum then you are going to lose a ton of people. Not all of us think humans are evil, many of us think killing animals is murder, really tasty murder. So please keep your PC/obama/green worshiping insanity to some other forums. We are the ultimate killers and carnivores for a reason. Please, really leave all the hugging and grass loving to the PETA forums. Most of us just do not care and really do like steaks. Fresh from a dead cow and with a little salt and pepper. And if we get to invade some country with Oil that has good beef, then yahoo!!! We get a 2-fer. Please leave this PC crap to other forums, it has nothing to do with WOW.
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# Apr 24 2009 at 6:31 PM Rating: Excellent
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Please be aware this is NOT a WoW only site and when you post your comments like this, the entire site of ALL our games can see this. You may actually be offending people with your snide remarks. We know you have an opinion and are free to express it, just as azerian is his. I loved the article, it wasn't complaining, it was jest. Please learn the difference.
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#REDACTED, Posted: Apr 24 2009 at 3:44 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Please, if you are a human, and really truly care about the Earth and Algore, stick a gun in your mouth, aim toward the back/base of your skull and pull the trigger. I smoke so I could use the oxygen your brain is wasting.
Humans
# Apr 24 2009 at 3:16 PM Rating: Default
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I know a friend who is so disgusted at their own race own race so much, that they were driven to join the Fur Fandom.

I know, I know, call the person a freak, but to be honest, I can't say I blame him. This person isn't really the perverted sort (there _are_ non-perverted ones out there), they just... daydream of a world with no humans, a world with a diverse range of various species, and such.

I'm not saying I agree with, or disagree with this person and their dreams; I merely say that sometimes when I think about it, sometimes I am disgusted to call myself a human, seeing what many other humans on the planet are doing.
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# Apr 24 2009 at 3:53 PM Rating: Excellent
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1. Buzzkill

Something that spoils or ruins an otherwise enjoyable event, esp. when in relation to ruining a drunken or drug-induced high.

We were having a great time at the party until Jim puked all over the floor. That was a major buzzkill.
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