One server isn't necessarily reflective of the game as a whole. My home server of Medivh (US) seems unaffected. Maybe even grown in population. Queue times are good. Raids forming nightly. Guild still recruiting. You may very well be right, but taking one server as an example isn't quite reflective of the overall stats.



That's debatable. I played Rift for a few months. Before I start tearing it apart, let me say, I really liked A LOT of their ideas. I thought a lot of them were really innovative. But, it honestly felt like more of the same. Not to mention the interface was terribly slow and sluggish. I will admit I didn't get very far in the game so I can't say about higher levels, but from my tenure in Rift it was just boring. Its not a bad game, and I think it'll give WoW competition, but I don't think its the death blow to WoW in any way shape or form.





I understand where you are coming from. But, having leveled through BC as a mage as my first character, dying repeatedly for menial tasks with pitiful rewards was not fun. At the same time, I agree that the brainlessness of most quests is really getting on my nerves. But Rift was not any better. It was still the same exact quest layouts and objectives. I did not experience one unique quest in Rift that hadn't already been done and save for a few close calls, most of it felt like grinding.

I think that Blizzard's promise of retuning the leveling experience for "both skilled and new players alike" is promising. Not that I'm holding my breath, but I think the problem is evident and I hope, hope they make a good effort at fixing it.





And that's kind of the deal late in a patch or expansion. It wasn't a whole lot different in Lich King except admittedly, it came way too early in this one. But the idea that Cataclysm failed is not a secret. Even Blizzard has admitted they screwed up.





Maybe. That could be a possibility, or it could also be that some major competition is coming up (SWTOR) and instead of pushing out a half finished expansion they are trying to give incentives to keep subscribers without pushing a buggy PoS on us.




Still don't see the problem with it. The price is already bottoming out and if people want to buy it, more power to them. Trying to make a profit is not the same as desperation. If Blizzard wasn't changing how it did business then it be accused of living in the past.





Either that or some people are living in nostalgia lala land. From everything I've heard of Vanilla I would never have stayed playing this game. Again, its not because I don't like a challenge, its because I want it to be a challenge...not a tedious time sink. I do NOT miss walking the first 40 levels. I do not miss having to fight my way into Uldaman just to learn new levels of enchanting, I do not even want to think of what it'd have been like to coordinate 40 mans... 25 man already makes me pull my hair out.

Yes, there are some things from the old WoW that sound fun. I would LOVE epic class quest lines. I miss world bosses. I miss open world mini-instances. But none of them I miss enough to want to play Vanilla.




Loud mouthed brats are always going to be loud mouthed brats. Most of the objections I've seen have been idiotic at best. There are a few good points and I agree with many of them...like I'm really dreading the new talent trees and I'm not sure how they are going to sell a new nemesis, but most people are just whining because Blizzard is doing something new to MMOs.