Cheaters deleted and banned, problems fixed

Alan VanCouvering recently posted this on the EverQuestLive.com website: Cheaters and the recent up swell of concern (12-8-03) Over the last few days there has been a growing community concern about possible cheating, exploiting and platinum duplication. Rumors and speculation have begun to run rampant, and I've received a lot of concerned email on the topic. First of all, I want to thank you for your concern. The fact that you worry about this stuff as much as we do makes me feel good about the community that I work for. I want to especially thank those that have sent in detailed information about what they thought might be dupe or exploit situations. That information has been very helpful. With your help, we have been able to discover and eliminate some unusual ways of cheating. Obviously I can't go into detail about exactly how this cheating was done. I can tell you that several of our programmers and designers took lengthy breaks from working on their current tasks to define, investigate and smash those exploits. Most of these methods for cheating have been removed. The few that remain will be fixed shortly. We will be watching, and anyone using them will be banned. At the same time, our Customer Service folks have been diligently tracking down the cheaters. We have banned accounts and deleted characters in the hundreds. It's never a good thing to be forced to remove so many accounts, and we're not happy that such cheating was possible. We are pleased, however, to let you know that we are confident that we have located the majority of those that exploited the game and have removed their characters or accounts. Obviously we won't be able to prevent all of the possible ways to cheat. The folks that insist on trying to cheat have proven to be persistent and clever (and here is where I wonder why they don't apply that energy and skill to something beneficial...). We need your help to locate these issues. The multitude of eyes and ears of our players is always the best source of information for us. If you ever suspect that you have discovered something that seems like an exploit, please send that information to us through the Developer's Corner AND through /bug. Please don't assume we have heard the information already. We'd rather have ten reports about something like this than none. I'd also like to address a rumor about the nature of some of the cheating that people have been talking about. There has been speculation in the community that in order to pull off some of the rumored exploits someone had to be working on the "inside". We take such possibilities very seriously. And we have investigated this very thoroughly. We keep track of all special EverQuest commands issued. We have looked into the possibility that someone working here had a hand in helping others cheat, and we have discovered no evidence that indicates that to be the case. Also, the nature of the cheat did not require such inside help. I can't describe the cheat method in any detail, but there was an experience cheat that allowed extremely fast leveling. This required some rather sophisticated cheating, but was being done without inside help. Obviously we have removed that exploit and banned any accounts that used it. Thank you for playing EverQuest. And thank you for you help making the game fun. Have a great holiday season. Alan

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Cheaters
# Dec 09 2003 at 11:38 AM Rating: Default
Yes.. I'm glad the problems are "being" fixed. Have I cheated in the above manners... NO. I have bought Plat and gear.. Is that cheating? I don't think so. Could I have gone and camped the gear I have? Yes. I don't sit and play for hours at a time.. I don't play everyday either. So, I usually solo and soloing at the higher levels takes longer to level. Have I recieved a beneficial advantage? No. I'm not lvl 65 and 100+ AA points.. I'm just John Doe... Average player who enjoys the "GAME" I'd love to have a million Plat to buy Ornate gear, but I don't have it, I spend alot of time in Rathe and CS farming for my plat.. It's gotten to the point of being really crazy with all the people selling platinum. Just take a look at cannotlinkto I have stopped even looking at that sight.. And I think Sony should spend some time on researching some of these people selling so much stuff. Of course that's just my opinion and who am I to judge someone else?
RE: Cheaters
# Dec 09 2003 at 7:21 PM Rating: Good
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Yes, buying plat and gear for real money is against the End User License Agreement you agree to before you can play the game, every single time you play. And buyers are as much a problem as sellers: Fewer buyers means these sites go under. If people would stop buying platinum and gear on the web, the prices would come down (because so few would have 100K plat from the internet) and tradeskillers and those who put effort into farming and hunting would be able to get a reward for their effort. I've seen prices on everything slowly climbing because there are so many players with way too much coin from buying it online. While I feel for the poster who got wrongfully banned, I'm glad they finally took some action.

SoE: start buying platinum and gear from these sites and "stinging" the sellers as well. A small price to pay to get our economies back on track!
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RE: Cheaters
# Dec 09 2003 at 11:46 AM Rating: Decent
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plat buying is a grounds for being banned according the EULA. but SOE wants to hit the sources, as the buyers really aren't the problem. if the sellers weren't there, the buyers would have no source.

however, the other exploits i am glad SOE finally did something about them.

Edited, Tue Dec 9 11:53:23 2003
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RE: Cheaters
# Dec 10 2003 at 5:56 PM Rating: Decent
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Gilg, I see your point about the plat sellers being the bigger problem than the plat buyers.

On the other hand, all that pp purchased online devalues everyone's in game pp.

What happens to the value of real world paper money if the Treasury simply prints endless sheets of it? It loses all relative value.

Same principal but applied now to a fantasy world.
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RE: Cheaters
# Dec 11 2003 at 1:23 AM Rating: Default
sounds a lot like
the drug trade

why bust the user get the dealer

or even the *** trade

why bust the john get the hookers

they are all guilty of being fools bust them all
it solves the problem quicker
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