Horrifying Terrorist Attacks on the U.S.

This is not game news, but is more important. I am putting this up here because many people are trying to figure out what is going on and this way we can share what we know. Here's what I know so far: - At about 8:45 a plane crashed into one of the World Trade Center towers. 14 minutes later, andther plane crashed into the second tower. - Another plane crashed into the Pentagon soon after that. - A bomb went off at the State Department. - Both World Trade Center Towers have now completely collapsed, presumably killing everyone who was unable to evacuate in time, and also the firemen and police who were at the towers trying to help people evacuate. - Another plane has gone down somewhere in Western Pennsylvania. Possibly just a coincidence or possibly an attempt to hyjack it to another target. Words cannot express the horror.
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What the US must do now
# Sep 18 2001 at 8:12 PM Rating: Decent
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Attacks on Muslim women in the streets of US cities in
recent days suggest that stereotyping of all Muslims, as somehow
responsible for the actions of a few, and the thirst for revenge, for the
horrific terrorism in America, are stronger than cool-headed, rational
thinking. This is an unfortunate turn of events for the cohesion of the
multicultural society.

But, more importantly, this is shaping up to be a fateful turn in relations
between Western states, led by the United States, and the Muslim world - a
turn that may become a self-fulfilling prophesy of doom.

The focus on Osama bin Laden by the US administration and the media
misses the point. It concentrates on a man and seeks to physically remove
him by surgical bombing raids and cruise missile attacks.

But bin Laden is not a man to be eliminated. He is a phenomenon. And that
cannot be "neutralised" by surgical attacks.

Bin Laden represents a backlash against the US for its role in supporting
undemocratic and unpopular regimes, such as the Saudi dynasty and the
former Shah of Iran, and the Israeli occupation of Palestinian lands. The
public in the Middle East is outraged by this record, and the continued
US-led sanctions on Iraq, which are causing daily death and misery for the
ordinary Iraqis.

Bin Laden happens to be the most recent spokesman for this rage. Others
had before him delivered the same message, perhaps with less deadly force
- for example, Muammar Gaddafi and Ayatollah Khomeini. Still others are
likely to do the same after bin Laden.

So what can be done? There are three main areas that require urgent
attention.

First, the US needs to revise its approach on stability in oil-rich states at any
cost. This approach justified pumping up the detested regime of the Shah in
Iran in the 1970s, when it was clear for anyone who wanted to see that all
was not well there. This approach has also led to supporting the repressive
Saudi dynasty, which does not even pretend at democracy.

The policy of supporting unpopular but US-friendly regimes to ensure
uninterrupted flow of oil to Western markets has seriously damaged the
credibility of the US as a champion of democracy in the Middle East.

Second, the US needs to allow the implementation of United Nations
resolutions 169 and 242, which call for the return of Palestinian refugees to
their homes and the withdrawal of Israeli occupying forces from Palestinian
lands. The US veto has blocked the UN from enforcing its resolutions in
relation to Israel.

This is in sharp contrast to the US strategy of coalition-building and
securing UN endorsement for its action against Iraq. The apparent
hypocrisy has caused disillusionment in the Middle East.

Only a concerted effort by the US to distance Washington from Tel Aviv
and to act as an impartial and honest broker, in line with UN resolutions,
can begin to restore confidence in the US.

Third, the US needs to re-examine its hardline policy on Iraq. What is
achieved by continued sanctions on Iraq? The regime of Saddam Hussein is
not suffering, but ordinary citizens are. Continued sanctions have
undermined the ability of the Iraqi people to feed themselves and have done
a lot to antagonise public opinion in the Middle East against what appears to
be American arrogance and double standards.

Many in the Middle East regard the US strategy against Iraq as the latest
episode in a systematic effort to suppress any regime or movement that
steers an independent course from America.

The backlash against the US is not about Islam and Christianity. It is about
a sense of outrage among a people who feel overwhelmed and hard-done
by the sole superpower in the 21st century. This outrage does not justify
terror. Nothing does. But it breeds conflict and extremism.

Fighting terrorism by focusing on such shadowy figures as Osama bin
Laden ignores the root causes of terrorist campaigns. Only systematic and
sustained efforts at reformulating the US strategy in the Middle East can
disarm terrorists and undermine their support base.

This cannot be achieved overnight. It took nearly 40 years for the US to
make an unfavorable impression in the Middle East. It could take just as
long to change it. But never is too late to start.

The alternative is too costly
RE: What the US must do now
# Oct 23 2001 at 10:59 AM Rating: Default
6 posts
Hey Wilf. I don't know if your an American or not, but if you are why don't you get the hell out of our country. If your not an American please leave or stay where you are if you haven't come here already.

This is just a no win situation for the whole world and I'm tired of people like you judging America and the West on a Unilatiral basis. There are no Democratic forces or people to deal with in most of the middle east. The United States Deals with the people in the middle east who are running these countries, period.

Have you ever been to the middle east? Do you think there would be one Isrealie man, woman or child alive in the middle east if the Palastinians had the military might the Isrealies do?


Look, if I were at the head of the Theocracy in Iran or if I were a dictator in any country in Asia or Africa I'ld be thanking my lucky stars for people like you. I'ld have 20 golf Courses built in my own honor and spend the rest of my life hitting balls on them, comforted by the knoledge that my people will never hold me responsible for their missery. They will blame the United States and the Jews.


The problem with the muslim world is that many muslims hate all non muslims as well as hating all of the muslims they feel are a little less muslim than themselves. Your belief that the U.S. can gain peace by appeasing such people is terribly flawed and outright dangerous.


The standards your using to judge the Saudi government are valid, but there only one or two governments if any at all in the muslim world that are any more ledgitimate.


The Palistinians could have had a homeland years ago, but this isn't now nor was it ever about the Palistinians; They are pawns. The only problem the Muslim world has with the Isrealies is that their not muslims. The only problem the Muslim world with Lebenon was that there were non Muslims living there and being prosperous. Do you think the rest of the Islamic world would give a damn about India being in the Kashmir if India was Islamic?

Our current problem with Terrorism is entirely the result of faith based hatred on the part of many people in the Muslim world and the fact that none of the governments in that part of the world are prepared to fight it and who are in many cases the source of it.


We are currently bombing and attacking a country that is and has been the third largest recipiant of foreign aid from the United states for the last decade. What do you think the Taliban would do to their neighbors, competitors or us if they had thousands of nuclear weapons and other countries didnt? What would Iraq do Iran or Syria would do if they had nuclear weapons and others didnt?

Let's apply these same standards your using to judge U.S. policies and attitudes to these countries whose positions and feelings you are defending.


You make me sick Wilf. Don't sweat it though, other people are gonna bleed and die to keep self loathing trash like you safe.





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RE: What the US must do now
# Sep 09 2002 at 7:44 PM Rating: Decent
34 posts
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Hey Wilf. I don't know if your an American or not, but if you are why don't you get the hell out of our country. If your not an American please leave or stay where you are if you haven't come here already.
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I doubt anyone will read this at this late date, but this is nauseating. If you are an American, you are not only allowed to criticize the government- it is your patriotic duty to do so when you disagree with its actions. How dare you tell an American to leave the country for speaking his mind? You would make this country into what you despise- a place when no one can speak if it is not wrapped in the flag. To hell with you, Gundarson. In fact, the Bush Administration stinks- their polices are in no way going to reduce the threat to our nation. If we attack Iraq, it will not be to save lives, it will be for oil, so Bush and Cheney and their pals can rack up a few more million. That's why we were in Kuwait and that's the reason for Iraq now. And poor naive dupes like you follow along like sheep to the slaughter- literally, in this case. Did you ever think the whole rest of the world might have a valid opinion about this, moron?

It is obvious that you didn't even read Wilf's post. It seemed to you to disagree with jingoism and knee-jerk, brainless, military response to this situation- so you condemned it. It was in fact a well-reasoned plea for the correct actions to be taken.

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You make me sick Wilf. Don't sweat it though, other people are gonna bleed and die to keep self loathing trash like you safe.
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People are going to bleed and die, but it won't make anyone safe- just the opposite. We aren't getting at the root of the problem, and you are incapable of helping.
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