Horrifying Terrorist Attacks on the U.S.

This is not game news, but is more important. I am putting this up here because many people are trying to figure out what is going on and this way we can share what we know. Here's what I know so far: - At about 8:45 a plane crashed into one of the World Trade Center towers. 14 minutes later, andther plane crashed into the second tower. - Another plane crashed into the Pentagon soon after that. - A bomb went off at the State Department. - Both World Trade Center Towers have now completely collapsed, presumably killing everyone who was unable to evacuate in time, and also the firemen and police who were at the towers trying to help people evacuate. - Another plane has gone down somewhere in Western Pennsylvania. Possibly just a coincidence or possibly an attempt to hyjack it to another target. Words cannot express the horror.
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"the terrorists and those who harbor them must be punished"
# Sep 12 2001 at 8:13 PM Rating: Default
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As most of you heard at one of the many press conferences the secretary of defense(i think, so many people too little time) was asked(also not perfect but the general sentiment)"Will our retaliation lead to the death of civilians where we attack" He answered a very swift "yes" and for this i agree. Many politicians have called this an act of war. In war civilians are killed, it cant be helped. We have to let the world know that one can not kill many thousands of americans and get away with it. Retaliation must be quick and severe, if bin ladin did it and the afghans supported him then, well, we do what we did to Iraq except a thousand times worst. During desert storm there was alot of opposition. Now I believe that nearly the entire country will back our leaders. Desert Storm was because of happenings thousands of miles away. Now the unthinkable has happened, an attack on United States soil has killed many americans. Instead of the other side of the world it has happened in our own backyard. Im sorry, I know many of you will disagree with me but I find this unforgivable.

Now one questions why we entered world war 2, it was because we were attacked, and Japan and Germany payed dearly. At pearl harbor something like 2500 people were killed. If estimates are correct 10,000 people have died in new york. I believe we will make whoever did this and those who supported them pay dearly also. If your argument is that we will kill civilians from that place that had nothing to do with it, well, we killed japenese by the thousands with the A bomb and they didnt have a desicion about attacking pearl harbor. When at war the entire, whether it be country, city, or extremist group, is the enemy. The goal is to be the enemy into submission, to me we are now at war, they made the first strike, they to say "open the can of worms." We made the japenese sorry and i hope we make afghanistan, or Iraq, or whoever did sorry as well. Flame away, I really don't care.
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# Sep 12 2001 at 9:36 PM Rating: Default
yes if we hadent of a-bombed the 2 citys the death toll for both nations would have been MUCH higher. the USA would have been forced to invade wich would have had very many casuiltys. Japan would have had people attacking with butter knives and sticks before they surrenderd. They would of had far more deaths then the 2 atomic bombs caused.

on a side note i belive that this should be considerd a decleration on war by an UNKNOWN force atm. when found there contry, faction, group or anyone who harbors them should be TOTALY eradicated otherwise if we cut of the head 2 more come to replace it cut those off 4 come to replace those. they must uncondictalny surrender
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# Sep 12 2001 at 8:30 PM Rating: Default
this is not a flame.
first of all the atomic bombs on hiroshima and nagasaki represented one of america's darkest moments, not one of its brightest. japan attacked an american military installation. what was america's response? two weapons of ultra-mass-destruction, used against -innocent civilians- women and children. that same phrase "innocent civilians" was used over and over, RIGHTFULLY SO, on cnn yesterday. it is fine to make reference to these incidents, but only in the same frame of mind as when referring to the holocaust. if you, sir, meant refer to the wiping out of two cities with that exact tone of "they got what was coming" then you are no better than the celebrating palestinians that have us -all- pissed like a ****. hiroshima and nagasaki rank up there with vietnam on the list of "top 10 things america shouldn't have done".

fact : if america stoops to the level of killing innocent men, women and children then we are no better than they are.

i'm sorry if that pissed anyone off, it just needed saying.

second of all, i would now like to say that i dont want the people that did this bombed themselves.

i want those m*****f***ers found, and i want them tortured and kept alive for as -LOOOOOONG- as possible. over the top? slightly insane? perhaps, but then again maybe they shouldn't have killed those 10,000 people.

thanks be to anyone who read this far, even the people who may flame the crap out of me.
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# Sep 12 2001 at 9:04 PM Rating: Decent
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It has been estimated that if the U.S. were to have invaded Japan on August of 1945, the death toll of U.S. military would have numbered almost 1,000,000 troops. The Japanese government would not accept surrender at that point and it was either send our troops to death or make the most difficult decision a political leader has ever had to make. We didn't start WW2 but we ended it. We didn't start terrorism but we will end it. It may take a few years and the loss of life will be great, but we will prevail.
As Hirohito said in the moments after Pearl Harbor,"Gentlemen, I fear that we have awoken the sleeping giant"
We,with the help of many great nations, will
eradicate this evil from the face of the earth
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# Sep 12 2001 at 9:03 PM Rating: Decent
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It has been estimated that if the U.S. were to have invaded Japan on August of 1945, the death toll of U.S. military would have numbered almost 1,000,000 troops. The Japanese government would not accept surrender at that point and it was either send our troops to death or make the most difficult decision a political leader has ever had to make. We didn't start WW2 but we ended it. We didn't start terrorism but we will end it. It may take a few years and the loss of life will be great, but we will prevail.
As Hirohito said in the moments after Pearl Harbor,"Gentlemen, I fear that we have awoken the sleeping giant"
We,with the help of many great nations, will
eradicate this evil from the face of the earth
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# Sep 12 2001 at 8:47 PM Rating: Default
Do not make it sound as if the U.S. dropped the atomic bombs on Japan in direct retaliation for the Pearl Harbor attack. The U.S. response to that attack was to fully enter the war with it's European allies. The U.S. conducted a naval war across the Pacific, pushing the Japanese basically back onto the island of Japan. At the end of the war in Europe, after Germany had surrendered, the U.S. pushed for a Japanese surrender. The Japanese government would not do this and it was Truman's decision to use these weapons of mass destruction to swiftly bring the war to an end, rather then continue to bring about the loss of American life. Yes, it was a horrendous destruction of life, but how many American soldiers were saved due to that decision?
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# Sep 12 2001 at 9:22 PM Rating: Default
... and you're saying the value of an American solider's life - because he/she is American - is more than that of a Japanese citizen? The error of that assumption (which shouldn't have to be said) is the point that was being made.
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# Sep 12 2001 at 10:09 PM Rating: Default
There really was no right or wrong answer to weather or not the 2 nukes should have been dropped--Here are the 2 scenerios...

scenario 1, Drop the bomb- and many Japanese will be killed.

scenario 2, Go in with troops- and many Americans and Japanese will be killed.

Either way lots of people are gonna die hower ever the death toll in scenario 1 was less then calculated in scenario 2. -Take your Pick-


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