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In the case of Romney, there's also the question of his vows of strict devotion & obedience to the Temple and proselytizing. It would seem a valid question to ask whether he views his potential oath as president to supersede those vows or vice versa.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Religion is like a *****
It is great to have one.
It is great to be proud of it.
Just please do not whip it out in public and start waving it around,
And don't try to shove it down my throat.
It is great to have one.
It is great to be proud of it.
Just please do not whip it out in public and start waving it around,
And don't try to shove it down my throat.
RAWDEAL wrote:
Religion is like a *****
You keep it in your pants?
You use it to urinate?
It's illegal to show it to people in public?
Sometimes white stuff comes out of it which contains half the necessary information to propagate a species?
Varus is committed to spending his life worshiping it.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Jophiel wrote:
Varus is committed to spending his life worshiping it.
On his knees, as it were.
MoebiusLord wrote:
Eske Esquire wrote:
MoebiusLord wrote:
Belkira the Tulip wrote:
MoebiusLord wrote:
But religious beliefs represent a worldview, and therefore should directly influence the leadership decisions of a politician. Suggesting otherwise is ignoring human nature.
Policy shouldn't be decided because of your personal religions views. For example, abortion, same-sex marriage, stem cell research. Shit like that.
Justice may be blind, but humans are emotional beings. Personal views should always come in to play, be they religious or otherwise.
I notice a subtle change in Moe's argument.
Refined.
I believe that a person's religious view should, and do, come in to play in decision making. As personal was introduced, I articulated around that word.
An even more refined version would say that all views are ultimately personal. Where they come from isn't really that relevant in this context. What matters is that they exist, and when a candidate is asking people to vote for him/her those people ought to know as much as possible about the person who'll be making decisions on their behalf.
I think it's kinda important to note that this matters whether the person is religious or not. Belk's response suggested that somehow religious views should be singled out for some reason, but that shouldn't be the case. It should purely be about the public having the best idea about how a politician will make decisions as possible. Broader judgments about the specifics aren't really appropriate.
King Nobby wrote:
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An even more refined version would say that all views are ultimately personal. Where they come from isn't really that relevant in this context. What matters is that they exist, and when a candidate is asking people to vote for him/her those people ought to know as much as possible about the person who'll be making decisions on their behalf.
I think it's kinda important to note that this matters whether the person is religious or not. Belk's response suggested that somehow religious views should be singled out for some reason, but that shouldn't be the case. It should purely be about the public having the best idea about how a politician will make decisions as possible. Broader judgments about the specifics aren't really appropriate.
I think it's kinda important to note that this matters whether the person is religious or not. Belk's response suggested that somehow religious views should be singled out for some reason, but that shouldn't be the case. It should purely be about the public having the best idea about how a politician will make decisions as possible. Broader judgments about the specifics aren't really appropriate.
Um, no. It's true that you should know as much as you can about a candidate before you vote for them, but religious views are distinct from others.
When a politician acts on their views (by putting forth legislation, veto-ing, etc), it's quite easy to understand that maaaany people are going to disagree with their actions. So the politician in question has to say "Look, I know you don't like it, but it's because of these circumstances and this intended end that I need to act this way."
When the premises in question aren't based off of religious dogma, but are instead facts about how the world is, even people who don't like the action can still agree with it, if the intended end is one they are also on board with.
When they are based on something as loose as faith, or heading towards a religious end, then there's a significant reason why they would be problematic where other viewpoints wouldn't.
IDrownFish wrote:
Anyways, you all are horrible, @#%^ed up people
lolgaxe wrote:
Never underestimate the healing power of a massive dong.
I grew up in the Church Of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints(unnecessarily long name). I went inactive(stopped going) when I was 14, and have since been excommunicated(can they fire you if you already quit?), but I know a lot about the church.
There are quite a few reasons.
The media coverage of the FLDS is one. The FLDS(Fundamentalist Mormons) are the ones you hear about in the news, forcing 14 year old girls to marry 50 year olds, practicing voluntary and involuntary polygamy, and building their own often defended communities. They didn't like when the LDS gave up polygamy, and decided to split off after being excommunicated for not adhering to the 1890 Manifesto(which basically said that there would be no more new plural marriages) and create the FLDS. I figure that given the way that the average person thinks, they don't differentiate between the two sects, which can easily be the cause of some of the prejudice against them.
Another reason could be the sheer ridiculosity of their basic belief. South Park actually got it right with their episode about mormons(except that he read the "brass plates" from behind a curtain, not a hat). Joseph Smith was supposedly visited by the angel Moroni who told him about a lost gospel buried conveniently not too far from his home in New York state. He dug up the plates and recounted them from behind a curtain(as he was the only one who could translate them or was even permitted to see them) to a wealthy friend. THe story is basically that Lehi and his sons, Nephi, Laman, and Lemuel, along with many of their followers, escaped Jerusalem before it was destroyed by God, and proceeded to travel across the Atlantic(in 600BC) and create a new society in the promised land(in this case, North America). Upon their arrival in NA, Laman betrayed Nephi and "Heavenly Father" punished Laman and his followers by darkening their skin so that they would be easily identified as Lamanites(ever see a Native American Mormon?). Over the years, the Nephites built a kingdom, and had many battles with the Lamanites until sometime in the area of 500-1000AD, they were wiped out completely by the Lamanites. This is why, according to the beliefs of the church, there were no whites when the Europeans came to the new world. This is what they believe. Sadly, from up until my Great-Grandmother, this is what a huge section of my family believed.
One other possible reason, could be the church's history of fighting with the USA as they slowly were pushed to Utah(Deseret). There were small wars every time they were booted out of an area.
This is what I can remember. I could look it up, but this is what we were taught in the THREE hours that was Sacrament, Sunday School, and other Sunday School. It's a shame though, for all their flaws and prejudice, it's hard to find more ridiculously nice people than the Mormons. Hell, at least they go away when asked, unlike JWs.
Locke wrote:
I'm honestly curious why Mormons seem so maligned
There are quite a few reasons.
The media coverage of the FLDS is one. The FLDS(Fundamentalist Mormons) are the ones you hear about in the news, forcing 14 year old girls to marry 50 year olds, practicing voluntary and involuntary polygamy, and building their own often defended communities. They didn't like when the LDS gave up polygamy, and decided to split off after being excommunicated for not adhering to the 1890 Manifesto(which basically said that there would be no more new plural marriages) and create the FLDS. I figure that given the way that the average person thinks, they don't differentiate between the two sects, which can easily be the cause of some of the prejudice against them.
Another reason could be the sheer ridiculosity of their basic belief. South Park actually got it right with their episode about mormons(except that he read the "brass plates" from behind a curtain, not a hat). Joseph Smith was supposedly visited by the angel Moroni who told him about a lost gospel buried conveniently not too far from his home in New York state. He dug up the plates and recounted them from behind a curtain(as he was the only one who could translate them or was even permitted to see them) to a wealthy friend. THe story is basically that Lehi and his sons, Nephi, Laman, and Lemuel, along with many of their followers, escaped Jerusalem before it was destroyed by God, and proceeded to travel across the Atlantic(in 600BC) and create a new society in the promised land(in this case, North America). Upon their arrival in NA, Laman betrayed Nephi and "Heavenly Father" punished Laman and his followers by darkening their skin so that they would be easily identified as Lamanites(ever see a Native American Mormon?). Over the years, the Nephites built a kingdom, and had many battles with the Lamanites until sometime in the area of 500-1000AD, they were wiped out completely by the Lamanites. This is why, according to the beliefs of the church, there were no whites when the Europeans came to the new world. This is what they believe. Sadly, from up until my Great-Grandmother, this is what a huge section of my family believed.
One other possible reason, could be the church's history of fighting with the USA as they slowly were pushed to Utah(Deseret). There were small wars every time they were booted out of an area.
This is what I can remember. I could look it up, but this is what we were taught in the THREE hours that was Sacrament, Sunday School, and other Sunday School. It's a shame though, for all their flaws and prejudice, it's hard to find more ridiculously nice people than the Mormons. Hell, at least they go away when asked, unlike JWs.
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The World Is Not A Cold Dead Place.
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Eske wrote:
I've always read Driftwood as the straight man in varus' double act. It helps if you read all of his posts in the voice of Droopy Dog.
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So a Scientologist wouldn't bother you as president?
Hell, you might at least get a decent space program out of such a president.
10k before the site's inevitable death or bust
The World Is Not A Cold Dead Place.
The World Is Not A Cold Dead Place.
Alan Watts wrote:
I am omnipotent insofar as I am the Universe, but I am not an omnipotent in the role of Alan Watts, only cunning
Eske wrote:
I've always read Driftwood as the straight man in varus' double act. It helps if you read all of his posts in the voice of Droopy Dog.
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I am an active member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints and a Lurker here. I am not posting to argue with anybody here or try to do anything other than answer some questions if they are appropriate.
The main reason other churches have issues with the LDS church stem from beliefs we have that don’t coincide with the beliefs of their church. Churches that have been around longer than the LDS church don’t like the challenge to their teachings. Every church on the planet takes offense to the LDS church stating we are the only true church on the face of the Earth. Some have problems accepting that we believe in a living prophet and that revelation hasn’t been removed from the Earth. Some take offense to our belief that God the Father, Jesus Christ and the Holy Ghost are three distinct beings that are one in purpose and not one individual being. There are more, but that should give you an idea of why other religions tend to stretch truths or make them up completely when talking about the LDS church.
A member of the LDS faith running for the office of President isn’t going to be any different than any other person from any other religion running for office. Sure, the LDS faith may have molded the belief structure of the person running, but just like any other religion you end up with people in the end. It is the person running for office and not the Church. A good example of this can be seen by the 2 “Mormons†running for the Republican nomination. Huntsman and Romney are completely different in their political beliefs and if I was a betting man I would bet that Romney wins the Primary in Utah over Huntsman.
Again, I would be happy to answer any questions as long as you aren’t trying to pick a fight. I’m not posting this for that reason, but I do see a lot of stuff here that people don’t understand or have heard from someone second, third or fourth hand that aren’t even close to the truth.
The main reason other churches have issues with the LDS church stem from beliefs we have that don’t coincide with the beliefs of their church. Churches that have been around longer than the LDS church don’t like the challenge to their teachings. Every church on the planet takes offense to the LDS church stating we are the only true church on the face of the Earth. Some have problems accepting that we believe in a living prophet and that revelation hasn’t been removed from the Earth. Some take offense to our belief that God the Father, Jesus Christ and the Holy Ghost are three distinct beings that are one in purpose and not one individual being. There are more, but that should give you an idea of why other religions tend to stretch truths or make them up completely when talking about the LDS church.
A member of the LDS faith running for the office of President isn’t going to be any different than any other person from any other religion running for office. Sure, the LDS faith may have molded the belief structure of the person running, but just like any other religion you end up with people in the end. It is the person running for office and not the Church. A good example of this can be seen by the 2 “Mormons†running for the Republican nomination. Huntsman and Romney are completely different in their political beliefs and if I was a betting man I would bet that Romney wins the Primary in Utah over Huntsman.
Again, I would be happy to answer any questions as long as you aren’t trying to pick a fight. I’m not posting this for that reason, but I do see a lot of stuff here that people don’t understand or have heard from someone second, third or fourth hand that aren’t even close to the truth.
ikoren wrote:
Again, I would be happy to answer any questions as long as you aren’t trying to pick a fight. I’m not posting this for that reason, but I do see a lot of stuff here that people don’t understand or have heard from someone second, third or fourth hand that aren’t even close to the truth.
How much does the Joseph Smith stuff play into the day-to-day of church goings-on? I'm curious about whether this is something that's hammered on (so as to be understood and accepted by all members) or if it's sort of left alone (so that members typically form their own opinion about it).
Basically I'm curious about how the church addresses its own history.
Edited, Jul 15th 2011 4:53pm by Eske
Ikoren, how correct am I? I was going based off increasingly distant memory, and some minimal post-excommunication research. I don't get as many opportunities as I'd like to talk to the mormon side of my family(which goes back nearly to the founding of the church), and it actually would bother me to know that I'mm misinterpreting their beliefs.
Also, in a more specific question, has the church began to modernize itself yet? I left because I didn't like being told that I couldn't date like normal teens(apparently men shouldn't be alone with women until they're married...ever). I didn't go back when I grew up because of my own personal issues with religion, but that's why I left. Is the church still stuck in 1830?
Also, in a more specific question, has the church began to modernize itself yet? I left because I didn't like being told that I couldn't date like normal teens(apparently men shouldn't be alone with women until they're married...ever). I didn't go back when I grew up because of my own personal issues with religion, but that's why I left. Is the church still stuck in 1830?
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The World Is Not A Cold Dead Place.
The World Is Not A Cold Dead Place.
Alan Watts wrote:
I am omnipotent insofar as I am the Universe, but I am not an omnipotent in the role of Alan Watts, only cunning
Eske wrote:
I've always read Driftwood as the straight man in varus' double act. It helps if you read all of his posts in the voice of Droopy Dog.
ikoren wrote:
The main reason other churches have issues with the LDS church stem from beliefs we have that don’t coincide with the beliefs of their church. Churches that have been around longer than the LDS church don’t like the challenge to their teachings. Every church on the planet takes offense to the LDS church stating we are the only true church on the face of the Earth.
Heh. I used to belong to a Christian cult that told everyone the same exact thing.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
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Every church religious group on the planet takes offense to the LDS church every other religious group stating we they are the only true church religious group on the face of the Earth.
IDrownFish wrote:
Anyways, you all are horrible, @#%^ed up people
lolgaxe wrote:
Never underestimate the healing power of a massive dong.
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How much does the Joseph Smith stuff play into the day-to-day of church goings-on? I'm curious about whether this is something that's hammered on (so as to be understood and accepted by all members) or if it's sort of left alone (so that members typically form their own opinion about it).
This is a great question. We believe Joseph Smith was a prophet and that he was the tool Jesus Christ used to restore His church to the Earth. We don't treat him any different than we would any other Prophet. He is a big part of the church however because if he wasn't a Prophet, then what he did isn't of God and the church becomes Joseph Smiths Church and not the Church of Jesus Christ. We honor him for what he has done, but the church is about Jesus Christ, not Joseph Smith.
Driftwood, you are close on a lot and not so close on other things, but for the most part I can tell you know/knew at one point the basics. By the way, I loved that South Park episode.
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Heh. I used to belong to a Christian cult that told everyone the same exact thing.
Good thing you got out, cults don't ever end well.
I have a question!
How do magnets work?
How do magnets work?
IDrownFish wrote:
Anyways, you all are horrible, @#%^ed up people
lolgaxe wrote:
Never underestimate the healing power of a massive dong.
Scholar
16 posts
Idiggory, that isn't true. Lot's of religions teach that all you have to do is accept Jesus and you are saved. Also, I wasn't talking for other religions when I posted. Locke asked about the Mormon church only.
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How do magnets work?
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+do+magnets+work
idiggory wrote:
How do magnets work?
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
lolgaxe wrote:
idiggory wrote:
How do magnets work?
So it wasn't angels? Damn...
IDrownFish wrote:
Anyways, you all are horrible, @#%^ed up people
lolgaxe wrote:
Never underestimate the healing power of a massive dong.
If any of you guys liked the South Park episode on Mormonism, I highly recommend listening to the soundtrack to The Book of Mormon Broadway musical (or seeing the show if you're in NYC and can get tickets). Funniest (and most profane) soundtrack to a musical I've ever heard, hands down.
Hello!
Two by Two
You and Me (but mostly me)
Hasa Diga Eebowai
Turn if Off (my personal favorite)
All-American Prophet
Making Things Up Again
Baptize Me
I Believe
Joseph Smith American Moses
ELDER PRICE
You all know the Bible is made of testaments old and new.
You've been told it's just those two parts, or only one if you're a Jew.
But what if I were to tell you -- there's a fresh third part out there
Which was found by a hip new prophet who had a little...Donny Osmond flair?
Have you heard of the All-American prophet?
The blond haired blue-eyed voice of God!
He didn't come from the Middle East like those other holy men.
No, God's favorite prophet was All-American!
I'm gonna take you back to biblical times, 1823. An American man named Joe livin' on a farm in the holy land of Rochester, New York!
ELDER CUNNINGHAM
You mean the Mormon prophet Joseph Smith?
ELDER PRICE
That's right! That young man spoke to God!
ELDER CUNNINGHAM
He spoke to God?
ELDER PRICE
And God said "Joe, people really need to know
That the Bible isn't two parts, there's a part three to The Bible, Joe!
And I, God, have anointed you to dig up this part three
That's buried by a tree on a hill in your backyard!"
ELDER CUNNINGHAM
Wow! God says go to your backyard and start digging, that makes perfect sense!
ELDER PRICE
Joseph Smith went up on that hill and dug where he was told!
And deep in the ground Joseph found shining plates of gold!
JOESPH SMITH
What are these golden plates?
Who buried them here and why?
ELDER PRICE
Then appeared an angel: his name was Moroni!
(Ahhhhh...)
MORONI
I am Moroni...
The All-American angel! (All-American!)
My people lived here long, long ago! (So long ago!)
This is a history of my race, please read the words within.
We were Jews who met with Christ, but we were All-American!
But don't let anybody see these plates except for you...
They are only for you to see...
Even if people ask you to show the plates to them, don't.
Just copy them onto normal paper.
Even though this might make them question if the plates are real or not...
This is sort of what God is going for...
ELDER PRICE
Joseph took the plates home and wrote down what he found inside.
He turned those plates into book then he rushed into town and cried:
JOSEPH SMITH
Hey! God spoke to me and gave me this blessed ancient tome.
He commanded me to publish it and stick it in ev'ry home.
ELDER CUNNINGHAM
Wow! So the Bible is actually a trilogy and the Book of Mormon is Return of the Jedi?! I'M interested!
ELDER PRICE
Now many people didn't BELIEVE the prophet Joseph Smith. They thought he made up this part three that was buried by a tree on the hill in his backyard.
(Liar!)
But Joe said --
JOESPH SMITH
This is no lie, I speak to God all the time
And he told me to head west!
So I'll take my part three from the hill with the tree
Feel free if you'd like to come along with me
To the promised land! (The promised land?)
Paradise, on the west coast!
Nothing but fruit and fields as far as the eye can see!
ALL
Have you heard of the All-American prophet?
He found a brand-new book about Jesus Christ!
We're following him to paradise, we call ourselves Mormon,
And our new religion is All-American!
ELDER CUNNINGHAM
Wow, how much does it cost?
ELDER PRICE
The Mormons kept on searching for that place to settle down,
But every time they thought they found it they got kicked out of town,
And even though people wanted to see the golden plates,
Joseph never showed 'em!
GOTSWANA
I have maggots in my *******.
ELDER PRICE
Um, okay. Well, anyway...
Now comes the part of our story that gets a little bit sad.
On the way to the promise land, Mormons made people mad.
Joseph was shot by an angry mob and knew he'd soon be done:
JOESPH SMITH
You must lead the people now, my good friend Brigham Young.
Oh God, why are you letting me die without having me show people the plates?
They'll have no proof I was telling the truth or not.
They'll have to believe it just...'cause.
Oh...I guess that's kinda what you were going for.
Blargggh...
ELDER PRICE
The prophet Joseph Smith died for what he believed in. But his followers, they kept heading west. And Brigham Young led them to paradise. A sparkling land in Utah they called Salt Lake City. And there the Mormons multiplied! And made big Mormon families!! Generation to generation until finally...they made ME!!! And now it's my job to lead you where those early settlers were led long ago!!!
ALL
Have you heard of the All-American prophet?
ELDER CUNNINGHAM
Kevin Price!
ALL
The next in line to be the voice of God?!
ELDER CUNNINGHAM
My best friend!
ALL
He's gonna do something incredible and be Joseph Smith again!
'Cause Kevin Price the prophet is all, all, all...
All-American!
ELDER CUNNINGHAM
If you order now, we'll also throw in a set of steak knives!
ALL
All-American!
Hello!
Two by Two
You and Me (but mostly me)
Hasa Diga Eebowai
Turn if Off (my personal favorite)
All-American Prophet
Making Things Up Again
Baptize Me
I Believe
Joseph Smith American Moses
ELDER PRICE
You all know the Bible is made of testaments old and new.
You've been told it's just those two parts, or only one if you're a Jew.
But what if I were to tell you -- there's a fresh third part out there
Which was found by a hip new prophet who had a little...Donny Osmond flair?
Have you heard of the All-American prophet?
The blond haired blue-eyed voice of God!
He didn't come from the Middle East like those other holy men.
No, God's favorite prophet was All-American!
I'm gonna take you back to biblical times, 1823. An American man named Joe livin' on a farm in the holy land of Rochester, New York!
ELDER CUNNINGHAM
You mean the Mormon prophet Joseph Smith?
ELDER PRICE
That's right! That young man spoke to God!
ELDER CUNNINGHAM
He spoke to God?
ELDER PRICE
And God said "Joe, people really need to know
That the Bible isn't two parts, there's a part three to The Bible, Joe!
And I, God, have anointed you to dig up this part three
That's buried by a tree on a hill in your backyard!"
ELDER CUNNINGHAM
Wow! God says go to your backyard and start digging, that makes perfect sense!
ELDER PRICE
Joseph Smith went up on that hill and dug where he was told!
And deep in the ground Joseph found shining plates of gold!
JOESPH SMITH
What are these golden plates?
Who buried them here and why?
ELDER PRICE
Then appeared an angel: his name was Moroni!
(Ahhhhh...)
MORONI
I am Moroni...
The All-American angel! (All-American!)
My people lived here long, long ago! (So long ago!)
This is a history of my race, please read the words within.
We were Jews who met with Christ, but we were All-American!
But don't let anybody see these plates except for you...
They are only for you to see...
Even if people ask you to show the plates to them, don't.
Just copy them onto normal paper.
Even though this might make them question if the plates are real or not...
This is sort of what God is going for...
ELDER PRICE
Joseph took the plates home and wrote down what he found inside.
He turned those plates into book then he rushed into town and cried:
JOSEPH SMITH
Hey! God spoke to me and gave me this blessed ancient tome.
He commanded me to publish it and stick it in ev'ry home.
ELDER CUNNINGHAM
Wow! So the Bible is actually a trilogy and the Book of Mormon is Return of the Jedi?! I'M interested!
ELDER PRICE
Now many people didn't BELIEVE the prophet Joseph Smith. They thought he made up this part three that was buried by a tree on the hill in his backyard.
(Liar!)
But Joe said --
JOESPH SMITH
This is no lie, I speak to God all the time
And he told me to head west!
So I'll take my part three from the hill with the tree
Feel free if you'd like to come along with me
To the promised land! (The promised land?)
Paradise, on the west coast!
Nothing but fruit and fields as far as the eye can see!
ALL
Have you heard of the All-American prophet?
He found a brand-new book about Jesus Christ!
We're following him to paradise, we call ourselves Mormon,
And our new religion is All-American!
ELDER CUNNINGHAM
Wow, how much does it cost?
ELDER PRICE
The Mormons kept on searching for that place to settle down,
But every time they thought they found it they got kicked out of town,
And even though people wanted to see the golden plates,
Joseph never showed 'em!
GOTSWANA
I have maggots in my *******.
ELDER PRICE
Um, okay. Well, anyway...
Now comes the part of our story that gets a little bit sad.
On the way to the promise land, Mormons made people mad.
Joseph was shot by an angry mob and knew he'd soon be done:
JOESPH SMITH
You must lead the people now, my good friend Brigham Young.
Oh God, why are you letting me die without having me show people the plates?
They'll have no proof I was telling the truth or not.
They'll have to believe it just...'cause.
Oh...I guess that's kinda what you were going for.
Blargggh...
ELDER PRICE
The prophet Joseph Smith died for what he believed in. But his followers, they kept heading west. And Brigham Young led them to paradise. A sparkling land in Utah they called Salt Lake City. And there the Mormons multiplied! And made big Mormon families!! Generation to generation until finally...they made ME!!! And now it's my job to lead you where those early settlers were led long ago!!!
ALL
Have you heard of the All-American prophet?
ELDER CUNNINGHAM
Kevin Price!
ALL
The next in line to be the voice of God?!
ELDER CUNNINGHAM
My best friend!
ALL
He's gonna do something incredible and be Joseph Smith again!
'Cause Kevin Price the prophet is all, all, all...
All-American!
ELDER CUNNINGHAM
If you order now, we'll also throw in a set of steak knives!
ALL
All-American!
-REDACTED-
Scholar
1,150 posts
Jophiel wrote:
ikoren wrote:
The main reason other churches have issues with the LDS church stem from beliefs we have that don’t coincide with the beliefs of their church. Churches that have been around longer than the LDS church don’t like the challenge to their teachings. Every church on the planet takes offense to the LDS church stating we are the only true church on the face of the Earth.
Heh. I used to belong to a Christian cult that told everyone the same exact thing.
Ditto.
This looks like an interesting thread. I don't know much about LDS other than that people often confused them with the cult I used to be in, so I'll just sit back now and grab some
ikoren wrote:
Every church on the planet takes offense to the LDS church stating we are the only true church on the face of the Earth.
Do you have the feeling that the offense is separate or distinct from that a Christian might hold for other religions?
Scholar
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Do you have the feeling that the offense is separate or distinct from that a Christian might hold for other religions?
I do think it is different. I think most churches view the LDS church as a young church. Nobody likes their little brother\sister telling them they are wrong. I think other churches look at the LDS church as the little brother\sister in that example.
ikoren wrote:
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Do you have the feeling that the offense is separate or distinct from that a Christian might hold for other religions?
I do think it is different. I think most churches view the LDS church as a young church. Nobody likes their little brother\sister telling them they are wrong. I think other churches look at the LDS church as the little brother\sister in that example.
I don't think anyone views Mormons that way. I think they just take issue with your claims about Joseph Smith, and there is still a lot of residual disdain following the anti-polygamy campaigns of the 19th century. Frankly, there are a lot of large, younger churches that don't get the same disdain.
Realistically though, most Christian organizations hate any other group that isn't closely aligned with theirs. There might be minimal strife between similar denominations, but there is a lot more between larger groups (like protestant vs. catholic).
Also, evangelicals that go door-to-door are creepy. When I was a kid, there was this one group that would come around the neighborhood with copies of the watchtower. I was too nice to tell them to GTFO, so I'd stand there and listen. I was like 11 or 12, and they'd start to ask for me if I wasn't the one to answer the door when they came around that week.
Trying to indoctrinate someone else's child into your church is creepy.
IDrownFish wrote:
Anyways, you all are horrible, @#%^ed up people
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