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Ok so I am in Lower Jeuno last night shouting for a dem. LS wanted me to level my drg with them (ick) hehehe. Anyway I am offering 1k for the tele. While I am doing this, there are porters next to me completly ignoring me. I am sitting here thinking wtf is this? I am shouting and getting totally ignored here. So I continue shouting and finally I get aggravated enough to say something. What I say is "It is pretty messed up that I am standing next to teleporters and I am getting ignored" Some guy had the nerve to shout "Offer more gil and you won't get ignored" Now come on! Why should I?! I work just as hard for my gil as teleporters do, why should I have to give more money to have MP used? Finally a generous WHM invited me (I wish I could remember her name) but I did thank her in shout saying... "Thank you *name here* for inviting me, it is good to see not all white mages are greedy" Then the guy is in my /tell calling me cheap and how I need to grow up. LMAO your joking right?

My point is, I am getting really sick and tired of this. My whm ports and I never not invite someone no matter what they are offering. Infact I had one guy trade me this really off the wall amount and I ask him whats up. He said it is all the gil he has. I cancel trade and port him anyway. Then I had one guy who had me laughing. I had just logged on and came out of my mog house and I see a guy shouting for a mea offering 1k. I invite him. He starts going off saying "I have been shouting for 20 minutes offering 500, the one time I offer 1k, I get invited. You are so greedy." I laugh and disband him.

You greedy *** white mages have got to stop this crap. There are us white mages out there who are not greedy and your making us look bad. I am so tired of hearing "all you white mages are greedy" Because no not all of us are. But you idiots make us all look bad and that is not right. Go farm and stop being so damn selfish! Btw, I am on Asura and I am Sareena incase you have the desire to talk to me about anything I just said.

I tend to outpost, or teleport myself anywhere I can go. If I can't get that going, I ask a friend or lsmate for teleport. If that doesn't work, I am at the mercy of people willing to teleport me... and I pay what they ask.

The economy is based on supply and demand. What you're comfortable paying/charging for a teleport may not be the same as what the person next to you is comfortable paying/charging for a teleport. That's a fact of life. I also teleport and warp people for free often enough... and still I reserve the right to say no... but I don't find it outrageous to be paying as much as 5k for the convenience.

Obviously each person is different, each person's ability to obtain gil is different, and each person places different values on different items/services. While it's not right for anyone to tell you that your concerns are trivial, the fact of the matter is that no matter how much you dislike it, or how many different ways you experss it, people aren't going to change unless they want to... and most are pretty happy the way they are. That's why people don't leap at 500gil for a teleport, and in some cases why 1k is even too little.

I agree. I got into an argument with someone in my LS about the prices for tele's. He pays 500g for the level 36 ones and 1k for the level 38 ones. Max.
He said "Why should I pay any more? All you do is cast a spell."
I said "Because we shave tons of time off of your travel."

I say if you aren't worth paying the average price on your server you should walk or take a chocobo or take an airship. If you don't think saving all that time is worth a couple thousand, then you have issues.

On my server most tele's go for 2k-5k for level 36's and about 6k-10k for the level 38's. although i've given a teleport holla for one person and got 20k

all i'm trying to say is stop being so freaking stingy

And paying the standard 3k+ is going to break yours? That's fine, there's always the chocobo stables. Oh wait, they're charging 200 gil right now, you'd better walk.

no hes right, to many whms are getting greedy about this (most not all) i think 1k for 36 and 2k for the others is a fair deal, considering its true, all you do IS cast a spell and warp back, instead of hunting nm's or spending hours killing something.

and im tired of hearing that crap, well everyone else raises their prices, why cant we deal

if you spend the same time, as you would farming, but teleing with 1k-2k even if you got 500 some of the time, you would make WAY WAY more then you would tele'ing then farming, and theyres always a high demand for it, and you get paid on the spot, instead of going out, farming, healing, farming some more, camping for a nm with about 3 or more other partys/ls's/gilsellers, if your lucky getting the item, then selling item on AH, paying a tax, and hopeing it will sell in a few days.

but again no other whitemage will admit this because they want to get paid, it really is greed, and honestly i didnt notice until i came back from military because it went from 500-1k to 3k-10k (shouts for, not whms asking) and i looked at the prices on the AH, and ALOT dropped from what they were before...i renember 12k for firecrystals and prices for teles were still 500, now that the crystals have gone down half price, whms started with this 3k-10k so its not the prices of the AH that motivated them.

again, its not totaly the whitemages faults, your all ASKING to pay them 3k-10k rewards, next time shout tele (w/e) can i have it? reward, ALL YOU NEED to do. but once you pay your 1k and whm asks for more, then thats just greed.
whitemages should be damn happy they have such an easy (and extreamly quick)way to earn gil, even though at high levels they can camp nm's as well... whm/war or voke with Dia like leaping lizy or others, but no, they just sit and STILL tele
if your over 50 whm and your still teleing for money, and you wont camp any nms or farm something, im sorry but that really is just lazyness, and a lack of atk is ********* cause fighting with melees we have to stop and heal for a long time, you all get auto regen...heal, and a rare stop in between for mp, whms can farm Alot but yet refuse too

but again, no whm is going to listen to this, only say something to defend themselvs, cause they dont want to lose money.

I agree. I worked hard for the 1.5 mil that I have right now. I think I should be able to spend it any way I see fit as well. However, unfortunately, the greedy bastards on this server won't sell me a Kraken Club for 1.5 mil.

You see the problem with this logic? You are not treating the other WHM's like real people. You aren't paying for them to cast a spell, you are paying for them to stand around Jeuno not looking for party, not farming, not questing, not helping their friends, and invite people who need teleports, take the money cast the spell, return and rest. Being a WHM yourself, I'm sure you know this process and understand what a WHM is giving up is not just MP but also their time.

You make an argument about not getting a teleport for 1k, and then in the same post you complain about someone who was whining about having to pay 1k instead of 500 gil. You can't have your cake and eat it too. Obviously you understand both points of view, so why can't you see that this is simple economics? The white mages consider their time to be worth a certain amount, the people asking for teleports consider the service to be worth a certain amount. Both sides determine the value of teleports and right now that value seems to be in the 2-5k range.



Your logic is self-defeating. If it was really so rewarding, then more white mages would do it, competition would cause them to lower their standards, and prices would drop. But they aren't dropping. What does that tell you?

The bottom line that I'm getting at here, is that you can call WHM's greedy all you want, but your enemy is the economy and hating on the WHM's won't get you anywhere.

Edited, Aug 21st 2006 at 4:53pm EDT by Pergatory

i do farm past 50, and its not to hard lol, lot easier then farming with blm, i really feel bad for people farming for that job, whms can farm fine. iv done it, friends have done it, some whms still do it.

WHMs dont exactly help with the problem with them raiseing the prices as well now do they, and yes actuly alot of people level whms souly on teleing for money.

Teleing is the easyest and quickest ways to make money (though some days are pretty empty on teles or other compatition) i mean do any other servers spend this much money on a tele? (asking because i seriously dont know the other servers status on teleing prices)

but yeah ALOT of the whm's are really lazy people, ALOT of them. they do get as much and even more then melee farming, and they SHOULDNT be able too compete with melee's farming with teleing, considering whms can farm and hunt nm's as well. hell and sytheing, any mages consider that (some do though but again ALOT dont) no all you do is sit, /sea, invite, tele, and warp, and repeat, there should be a small fee, but the prices now are outragous.

You say this like there is some huge conspiracy among WHM's to raise the prices of teleport. "Didn't you get the memo Fred? The Man has decreed a 1k increase in teleport charges!"

It doesn't work like that. Some jackass starts by trying to jack up the price prematurely, and everyone hates him. Then as inflation continues, less and less people are willing to teleport for the old price and see the people whining and complaining about the jackass trying to inflate prices, so they simply stop teleporting because they can make more money elsewhere. So now, nobody can find a teleport, and suddenly those same people who were whining about the jackass who jacked up the prices early, are now begging white mages to teleport them at the "inflated" price. Hence, the price rises, and the white mages return to business. It's all supply and demand, the simplest aspect of economics, the price is regulated by the market. You have the ability to directly affect the market by refusing to pay increased prices and by walking if you can't find a teleport for 1k. You just reduced demand for teleports. If enough people do it, prices will drop. I'm sick of people coming here to complain about it when the power is in their own hands. If you want to organize a mass boycott of teleports on these forums, more power to you, but don't come here just to ***** and moan please.


Easiest, yes probably. Quickest? Not by a LONG shot.


And that's what you'd have them do by your argument. All WHM's would be out farming because it makes better money, and all you people asking for teleports would be totally screwed. No, teleports should bring in more money per minute than farming, because otherwise there's no reason for the service to exist and the only way you'll get a teleport is if you already have a WHM.

You people are going down a dangerous road here. If you want teleports, make it worth the white mage's time. Otherwise, you are the greedy one, not the white mage.

300/60= 5

You make 300k or more an hour charging 1k per teleport? How the hell do you get 5 or more teleports per minute? You lie.

And as long as there is a demand for teleports, white mages will charge the standard 3k+, and calling us greedy for doing so is retarded. It's a money maker that doesn't force us to go out and solo things, ending up face down in the dirt. Melee's can handle it, white mages have more trouble.

Heh, actually if ya remember a while back, this -was- the case. There was that big feude amongst the WHMs back when teleports were 500/1k per and a group of about 50 or so WHMs jumped the prices up to 1-2k. The idea spread like wildfire; and the few of us that didn't want the change were overrun. Of course.. that was when inflation was just kicking off and many were complaining about gear prices.

Now though, we have a period of deflation, but not in tele prices. Teleporting is a service, not a good. So though the prices may be loosly influenced by the current economic stance of the server, those who provide the service may still charge what they want. Its like several little small businesses competeing to provide the same thing.

Has it gotten out of hand though? Yes.

LS mate of mine was on last night looking for a tele. I couldn't help him because I was lfg on DRG, but he got an invite eventually. What happened next though burned me through the roof. He was booted from the teleparty for offering 2k.

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2k

the porter wanted 20k

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WTF?

That's rediculous! No one should -ever- have to pay that. That's just a lazy WHM. So I switched jobs and ported him free of charge. I never got the name of that WHM, but I wish I had.

There are other ways to make money. Don't say WHM can't farm; all it takes is picking the right targets. Personally, I'd rather farm than do tele's (most boring way to make cash..) For quick cash its great, but I usually only port people in my ls. All my cash comes from farming and alchemy.

Something does need to be done about it though, there is no longer a need for these prices.

Hi im on the garuda server. Prices of teles are 2-5k for dem/holla/mea 3-6k for altep/yhoat and 8-10k for vahzl. To be honest people just pay for what they need and if some one wants to pay 10k for a tele then let em.

you realize 7pm to 9pm is 2 hours, right?

lol wish i took a pic of it then >.< and yes it was almost 2 hours XD sorry for the 1 hour claim, but yeah dont know how to prove it to you but its kind of getting off topic, point is, teleing shouldnt EVEN get you that much, i mean melee work hard for their gil and for a whm to just press a spell button and warp back isnt worth 3k ok -.-