VIRUS in Popsups again !!!Follow

1) It would help if you could provide more source information.

2) They do not control what is put in the adds. Most likely, it was the ad server that was infected (again) and then started a trickle down effect.

3) Only one person here is allowed to demand that the powers that be "Fix this shi[b][/b]t", and it is still annoying when she does it. Stop being a demanding douche.

What I need is the source of the page which trigger such an event.

The source contains information allowing me to trace that the offending file a) was included by us, and b) which advertizer had it.

take a look at the 2nd and 3rd screenshot, 3rd has a active-x element and it shows exact url of that popup, and it shows the time in my tasklist, timezone is GMT+1 and it was today 16th Oct



yes they are their adds, they are launched from their website so they are responsible for the adds, even if they cant control what kind of adds come up, they are responsible for them.
the fact that even this popup supplier had a virus before and now again means allkhazam acted wantonly negligent (at least from german law point of view, which applies to me and my pc)

But I dont want to discuss about the laws here, I just want this situation fixed since I like this site



put them fullscreen and they are get sharp, it basically says in first pic "file .... Is the Trojan Horse blablabla" the points below are the options given by my virus scanner



I didnt want to block allakhazam adds because I want them to earn some money, I have a popup blocker and could have blocked them all, but one of their main income sources are popups and I want to support the site as far as I can or feel like

Edited, Sun Oct 16 16:16:04 2005 by Holodmer

as I said Im not here to discuss about laws, but "Cyber Crime agreement" and current active agreements of rigths tell me, my damage, german court



of course I dont have the original page/file anymore, jst the screenshots, but here pic3 again with a red marker where you can see the exact url of the popup

http://lr.hs-net.de/pic/allakhazam-virus3-blind.JPG

Reread that again. No they aren't. If you think the ads are launched from this site, you're wrong and if you think this site has any control over ensuring that the people forwarding ads through the site are running virus scans regularly, you're still wrong. You fail at the internet.



Then why don't you get a paid subscription? You get to support the site AND don't get popups. You fail at logic.



If you're not here to "discuss laws", why do you keep bringing them up? Threatening legal action -always- gets you what you want. Right. You fail at life.

Expect for the fact that the url you listed probably doesn't match any of their ad providers. It is very easy to have a URL point to a different page. Also, there could have been other events leading to it rather then the pop-up. This is why the source code of the page is more important then any screens.

Basically, they can't do **** with the information you provded them, yet you still keep arguing the fact they can, and threaten to go to the local authorities. (And by the way, the local authorities would LAUGH at you.)

well I dont have the source-code of the site because I closed it after I made screenshots

but they could just take the url, phone their add supplier and have them check that url, esp since they allready had problem with the adds and since the FBI is allready working on that case it shouldnt be a problem to take that add offline

In no preticular order:



Boom, there is your threat with legal action.



You DO realize that the subscription is just a BONUS and it doesn't mean that you can't still subscribe right?



Truthfully, it does actually. See, Alla (and all sites) make money through Ads as you know. However, they get money when they get hits to the sites (iirc) so, by either not clicking the banners or blocking the pop-ups, they don't get a hit on the page, hence they don't get as much money from the ads.

I just wanted to show the guy that called me a douche what I could have taken as action, and instead of heading over and cause trouble I decided to post here and supplie them with the information I believe are enogth

I didnt want to threat anyone, you have to look at it in context as a reply

If it sounded like a threat I apologize, it wasnt meant as one



I dont understand what you mean :/ If I want to subscribe to avoid banners I click on "Sucscribe Button" in the navigation bar, and the first thing that shows tells me its US/Kanada only, so nothing for EU

as far as needing sourcecode ... there are other ways to track down that banner

as far as I understand allakhazam has a general redirection to their popup supplier and they redirect to the popups from the companies that pay for it.
certain algorytm (sp?) decides which popup is loaded (like dependend on language of the client, as my popups showup in german ie.)

#1 take my IP (you can take my IP of that time from the very first post)
#2 phone your popup supplier and tell them about the problem
#3 tell them about the popup url and have them check if they know who it is (and shut down that popup), if its not as easy goto #4
#4 get a list with the popups from my IP in the timeframe (after the past problems Im sure they have logfiles up the roof)
#5 go though the list and compare the popups from my IP with the ones showed in Screenshot, if found tell the popup provider and have them shut it down

but since you want the source-code of the html file supplied to me I would guess you generate the popup directly from your server (with some sort of script that decides whichever popup shows), then it wont be hard to have said script make log entries with IP addresses ... and again you have a list of popups and my IP address to compare

there is allways a way to track down such things in one or another way if you have enogth logfiles



I dont click on adds, but them loading should give alla some money allready

Edited, Sun Oct 16 19:11:41 2005 by Holodmer

Edited, Sun Oct 16 19:13:12 2005 by Holodmer

The problem is that we have more than one banner ad supplier. At last count I believe it is somewhere in the hundreds of individual suppliers. We have an ad script that randomly loads an ad by one of those suppliers, who themselves randomize their ads. Some suppliers submit the ads to more than one distributor, and some ads also load different content based on load location. We have no control over that portion of it. The only way we can track them down is by knowing which ad provider the ad came from, and which ad number. To find that information, we need the source code of the allakhazam page you were viewing when you got the banner ad that loaded the popup. That source code contains the advertiser and advertisement ID. Without that there are literally thousands of ads to try and track it down in.

Since it loaded several times for you, i'd imagine it should not be that hard to get it to load again from your end. I have not had any luck getting it to load on my end, so it may be geoencoded.

As to legal liability, any legal liability would lie with our banner ad providers, who have agreements not to serve damaging content to this site. We would still need the source code of the page that loaded the banner ad before we can take any action on that front either.

We are the only people that activly record your IP address, and even then, only when you post. the ad companies do not record any IP information unless they load tracking cookies or spyware. They log that an ad file was downloaded, but most of them do not log by who. It would slow their ad serving system down too much.

As to blocking the Pop ups go for it. We get paid based on banenr ad loads, and even with most pop-up/banner ad blockers the ad still loads enough for it to count as a page load. firefox has a good blocker module, as does the avant browser interface for internet explorer.

Finally, to the last part about subscriptions, our subscription service for the site is worldwide. The only part that is not available over in europe is the 12 issues of the paper copy of Computer Gaming World magazine.
http://news.allakhazam.com/Premium_Chart.html
That will not be delivered overseas, but everything else is available to Europeans. we have many current european members, most from the U.K., but a fair amount from Deutschland as well.

If you have any questions, or need translation into german, I do speak some german, though it may be a bit rusty

EU based premium user right here.