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#252 May 02 2017 at 5:40 PM Rating: Excellent
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You're not that good of a skimmer if you think moving and my reasons for considering divorced are in some way related.

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#253 May 02 2017 at 6:25 PM Rating: Good
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Has it occurred to you that the "one person" is you? I think I mentioned this earlier in the thread, but I'll say it again. I think a huge part of your problem is that you're looking for validation outside of yourself. You keep looking to others to make you feel better about yourself. But what you should really be doing is figuring out how to be happy with yourself, for what you are, not what you think others see in you.



Yeah. I think about that, actually. You have said it before. Other people have said it before. I'm 100% certain that if I went and saw some kind of therapist they would say the same thing.

Right now I'm alone. Wife is at work for the next 12 hours. Kids are sleeping. When they're not sleeping they keep to themselves and expect me to do the same. It's times like now that are really what kill me. It's Spring break so there are no classes this week. So I am stuck with myself for another day, just like every other day. It's how I imagine an animal in captivity must feel. It has always been this way-- since as far back as I can remember, only in different settings with different people involved over the years.

The only time it has ever been different was during those months I had someone calling me every day. Someone to interact with. It is reasonable for me to believe that is what I want considering how things were different during that time. It was different in a good way. I felt engaged in life in some way. I had something to look forward to every day. --and now things are just like they were before that person was in my life. --and now it is worse, because I think about those days and how they're gone forever. I think about what I might have been able to do differently to prevent them from ending, or how I might be able to bring them back.

It is reasonable to believe that because there was once such a person that made that sort of difference, it could perhaps happen again. It is difficult to imagine that one person being myself. I have read some things online about cognitive therapy and how I am supposed to challenge negative thoughts and ideas and replace them with self-complimenting ones. I don't really know what to think about that. It's like I'm supposed to become some kind of narcissist for the sake of survival, and I don't understand how that could even work. I don't really understand. All I know is I don't want to want to be here sitting in this room like this. All I know is there is no place I can go that would be any different, and there is no person out in the world somewhere who could replace what I had, or even come close.

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#254 May 03 2017 at 6:54 AM Rating: Good
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I think you need a hobby or to be doing activities. Take the kids to a park or something.
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Take up macrame and sell your crafts on Etsy. Surprise your next object of obsession with some knotted jute lingerie.
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#256 May 03 2017 at 2:46 PM Rating: Good
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I've actually been busy setting up a new Minecraft RPG server. It's online now if anyone cares to see it. There will be a whitelist in place until it is ready for randoms to join.
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#257 May 07 2017 at 5:30 AM Rating: Good
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#258 May 12 2017 at 1:54 AM Rating: Good
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I'm starting to think that things are changing-- now that I've left my cave and joined the rest of the world so to speak.

I am very rapidly overcoming my learned helplessness. Last year, I thought for sure that my experience with the woman from the comic store was damning evidence that I did not belong amongst the general population-- a confirmation of my fear that I was completely unsuitable for existence. I thought myself to be literal human garbage because up to that point that is the only kind of reaction from people I have ever known.

But things are different now... I think it began with the with the very public acclaim from my World Lit teacher. My classmates began to look to me for answers, which turned into casual conversation. I think it was at this point that I no longer felt saturated in a sea of indifference. Today, everyone seems to know my name. People walk by in the halls and say "hello" and shake my hand. There is a girl who sits at the table next to me in Anatomy and Physiology who can't seem to stop touching me-- and I welcome her advances. It feels good. For the first time, I feel I am becoming confident. Perhaps I am not so hideous and disgusting after all. Perhaps I look professional wearing scrubs every day, even though I am still a student. Maybe things will be different now.
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#259 May 12 2017 at 8:17 AM Rating: Good
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****, now I need to find someone else to talk into taking out Timelord for me. Missed my chance, I suppose.
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#260 May 12 2017 at 11:18 AM Rating: Good
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Glad to hear you're on an upswing, Kuwoobie! Fly high, but don't forget about Icarus and all that. Cheers!
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#261 May 12 2017 at 11:41 AM Rating: Good
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Pft, not only would the Sun not have melted his wings, but Icarus should have flown higher. Fly as high as you can.
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If Icarus wasn't so weak, he could have flown over the sun and away from its damning heat!
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****, now I need to find someone else to talk into taking out Timelord for me. Missed my chance, I suppose.


Kavekkk, I have dispatched all seven of your previous assailants; their skulls now adorn my front gate. I have run out of space so your madness must end.
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****, now I need to find someone else to talk into taking out Timelord for me. Missed my chance, I suppose.


Kavekkk, I have dispatched all seven of your previous assailants; their skulls now adorn my front gate. I have run out of space so your madness must end.


I find the hats you've put on them quite endearing. Especially the one with the top hat.
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****, now I need to find someone else to talk into taking out Timelord for me. Missed my chance, I suppose.


Kavekkk, I have dispatched all seven of your previous assailants; their skulls now adorn my front gate. I have run out of space so your madness must end.


I find the hats you've put on them quite endearing. Especially the one with the top hat.


That one was from San Diego. I wanted to ensure that he stayed classy, even in death.
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I sent an elephant this time. Hopefully the skull will be too heavy and bring down the gate, stripping you of your first layer of defence.

You are also free to drown in its blood, if you like.
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#268 May 23 2017 at 10:40 PM Rating: Good
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It still hasn't arrived, so it's either lost or more stealthy than I'd have expected
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Tactical stealth elephants are impressive close range, but it's their sea to land oxpeckers you've really got to look out for.
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#270 May 25 2017 at 7:57 AM Rating: Good
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It still hasn't arrived, so it's either lost or more stealthy than I'd have expected


It's a bull elephant, it's not eligible for next day delivery. It'll be there in 5-7 business days.
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#271 May 31 2017 at 7:42 PM Rating: Good
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So I want to live after all-- just not on the same planet as people who think the cost of a gallon of milk and inflation is decided by how much fast food workers are getting paid. I'm seriously getting bent out shape seeing the same manufactured ****** logic from completely different people everywhere I turn.

I wonder how hard it would be to at least move to another country.

Edited, Jun 1st 2017 1:44am by Kuwoobie
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#272 Jun 04 2017 at 4:24 PM Rating: Good
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So there was a fight that happened at a Polo Tropical near here. They took it out into the parking lot and one guy shot the other in the chest. He died. It's sick. All these people walk around with guns thinking they're the god of life and death. They act like Barney Badass because they know they can just shoot someone if things aren't going their way. I'm starting to realize that people who carry guns around with them everywhere are the world's biggest pussies.
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#273 Jun 05 2017 at 7:35 AM Rating: Good
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I wonder how hard it would be to at least move to another country.
First you think of where you want to move. Then you move there.
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#274 Jun 05 2017 at 8:00 AM Rating: Excellent
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Assuming you mean permanent residency or citizenship, it depends on the country and depends on you. Most first world countries are fairly full up on Walmart shelf-stockers but are more amendable towards people in the medical fields. Stay in school and keep your nose clean.

On the other hand, you might find it easy to emigrate to Burkina Faso if you're not picky about destinations.
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I'm not really sure if any kind of licensing or certification I get in the states will be valid anywhere outside of the country, so I'm probably stuck here anyway. I could be wrong. I dunno. My plan is to become as employable as possible in my field, though. I'm hoping I can land a job as a radiology tech at a hospital or some place within a year or two while furthering my education. I think it'll be about another decade of school before I can be "Dr. Kuwoobie" if I make it that far.
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People come to the US on education visas to study medicine so I'd assume that the degree/licensing is valid provided it comes from a credible school.
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#277 Jun 07 2017 at 9:09 AM Rating: Good
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I wonder how hard it would be to at least move to another country.
First you think of where you want to move. Then you move there.


Nice gun you've got there, you *****.
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#278 Jun 08 2017 at 8:53 AM Rating: Excellent
Most medical certificates travel pretty well
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Except into Canada. Many may, but it does not appear to be most. US is probably ok.

Not that he should want to move here. Our society is degrading at about 20 years behind the US, but we're working on it.
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#280 Jun 11 2017 at 12:20 AM Rating: Good
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So I'm reading through Facebook and occasionally I come across some political things my conservative friends/family like or comment on. You know, like how 45 has created a million bajillion jobs overnight and how good x is because someone says it's a good thing, or the opposite.

--and every time I think, "wow, they will believe anything." Then I thought about how fun it might be to just randomly make **** up and put it on a website to see how they react to different things. Then with that I realized they won't actually believe anything. It has to be something that they want to hear.

It doesn't have to be anything positive. I could make up a story about a terrorist attack that never happened, or I could say everything to do with Russia and the current administration is a lie because Democrats and Libtards are mad about losing. --just something that hasn't already been done, and perhaps something with a specific purpose behind it.

It doesn't even have to be a lie. It can just be something completely irrelevant-- like this one thing I keep seeing about how the Democratic party in the year 1825 or something were doing things that resembled the Republicans of today-- therefore Democrats are evil!

I just really want to see how far it can go. It can be anything. Anything at all. I want to come up with something that is so absurd that no one could possibly believe it, and yet they will.
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#281 Jun 12 2017 at 7:41 AM Rating: Good
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Then I thought about how fun it might be to just randomly make **** up and put it on a website to see how they react to different things.
It can be fun if you can get enough people to play along. Or to make up statistics to make it appear like a lot of people are playing along. Pictures help.
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#282 Jun 12 2017 at 1:32 PM Rating: Good
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That's right, Lolgaxe, I called you a *****. What're you gonna do about it, you *****? Shoot me? HAH!
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That's right, Lolgaxe, I called you a *****. What're you gonna do about it, you *****? Shoot me? HAH!


He's got you on his ignore list and can't see your posts. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
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#284 Jun 12 2017 at 6:23 PM Rating: Decent
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So I'm reading through Facebook and occasionally I come across some political things my conservative friends/family like or comment on. You know, like how 45 has created a million bajillion jobs overnight and how good x is because someone says it's a good thing, or the opposite.


You realize that you could simply swap "liberal" for "conservative" and "44" for "45", and make the exact same statement. Well, except said statement only applies to random people on the internet, as opposed to say... the Nobel Peace prize committee. There's cheer leading, which is pretty normal all around, and then there's just plain pie-in-the-sky imagination.

I honestly see a lot more folks on the right being at best cautiously optimistic about Trump. Whereas it seemed like the left more or less fell over themselves to proclaim Obama to be the next best thing to the second coming. Although I'll fully admit the potential for perception bias there. Again though, that applies to you as well.

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--and every time I think, "wow, they will believe anything." Then I thought about how fun it might be to just randomly make **** up and put it on a website to see how they react to different things. Then with that I realized they won't actually believe anything. It has to be something that they want to hear.


Again though, there's "stuff made up on some random site on the internet", and then there's "stuff made up on Whitehouse.gov. How many jobs were "created or saved" (how exactly do you measure that anyway?). Seem to recall folks swallowing that hook, line, and sinker. Same deal with "pass cap and trade or we'll all die!". Or frankly, any frantic claim made about how dire some problem was that needed a solution "right now!!!!", and so much so that there's no need to even look at the proposed solution or ask how it might help or even hurt the problem we started with (It's called the "affordable care act", right? Yet, the average household cost for health insurance has increased by $3k/year since it was passed).

There's plenty of cognitive dissonance to go around IMO. I'm not even saying one "side" is worse than another (although I personally do believe this to be true), but just trying to point out that it's not one sided, and maybe you should be just a bit aware of the same thing going on among those who believe as you do as among those who don't.

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It doesn't have to be anything positive. I could make up a story about a terrorist attack that never happened, or I could say everything to do with Russia and the current administration is a lie because Democrats and Libtards are mad about losing. --just something that hasn't already been done, and perhaps something with a specific purpose behind it.

It doesn't even have to be a lie. It can just be something completely irrelevant-- like this one thing I keep seeing about how the Democratic party in the year 1825 or something were doing things that resembled the Republicans of today-- therefore Democrats are evil!


Yeah. This has been happening for some time though. There are already a fair number of fake sites and sources that exist solely for the purpose of creating fake stories and hoping the "other side" will pick up on it, push it publicly, and then be made to look foolish when it's revealed to be completely fake. In fact, there was a Clinton supporter who was doing just this during the election (I can't remember the name now, but I posted about this back when). He created some fake copies of supposedly leaked emails from the Clinton camp (specifically Podesta, among others). They were absurd and obvious fakes. He had hoped to catch conservatives passing this off as "real", but what actually happened was that some real emails were leaked, and when that was reported on, some liberal news sites latched onto the faked one, and argued that the whole set of Podesta emails were faked. They had a bit of egg on their face when it was revealed that, yes, this one was a fake, but it was created by one of their own, no one on the right fell for the bait, but the folks on the left did when they needed an obvious fake to try to dismiss the emails.

When it came out that the ones released by Wikileaks actually were real? That was a problem. And yeah, now you know the rest of the story...

Point being that this is already a thing. It's been a thing for some time. It's the same thing that folks tried to do by heading to Tea Party rallies, and waving around signs with hateful and bigoted messages. I can only assume they expected all those evil bigoted conservatives to cheer them and give them secret handshakes or something, and were quite shocked when instead they were told that wasn't what the groups were about and to leave. Of course, this generally didn't stop them from having their friends take pictures of the signs and attempt to pass them off as proof of bigotry among Tea Partiers.

Same deal with the folks showing up at the RNC and passing out Russian flags, so they could get photos of folks waving them. Um... Ok. Contrived, right? Same thing with folks showing up at any GOP or conservative rally and trying to start fights and create violence (cause they're all violent hateful people, right? Should be easy).

The funny thing (and yeah, this is where my own bias is going to play in), is that we on the right don't have to do this. Your "side" manages to wave socialist flags and wear t-shirts with violent terrorists on them without us having to do anything. We don't have to instigate fights at liberal events, they tend to turn into riots all on their own. And we don't have to show up and plant racist hateful messages there. They're already there. So there's that.

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I just really want to see how far it can go. It can be anything. Anything at all. I want to come up with something that is so absurd that no one could possibly believe it, and yet they will.


Odds are anything you've thought of has already been done. Be cautious though. Your perception of what conservatives believe and will accept is almost certainly very different from what conservatives actually believe and will accept. You might just find yourself standing around in a crowd of other liberals (or at least anti-conservatives) bouncing the "hateful/absurd" messages back and forth at each other, all pretending to accept the others silliness, in the pursuit of supporting a narrative, meanwhile all the actual conservatives are looking at you and wondering what the heck you're talking about.

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I hafta say. I hate using words like "conservative" and "liberal." I hate grouping people into broad categories this way. I avoid using words like that whenever I can if it can be helped. So this isn't easy for me.

Whenever I see someone use the word "liberal" as a means of othering someone, I immediately stop taking them seriously-- because the meaning behind words like these have become completely subjective. Too often I see someone speak their opinion about something like, say, abortion-- and depending on their stance on the issue, they are immediately given one of those two labels, regardless of what they think about anything else.

It is hard. It is messy. I know. --but there exists a demographic of certain people who happen to typically identify as "conservative" who I feel a profound level of disgust for.

and. AND-- I realize there are people who identify as "liberal" who are just as bad, if not worse. They are the ones I was talking about a few weeks ago on the other thread which I'm not sure if you saw or not.

I think some better words we could use to better describe the "conservatives" I am referring to (IF we must use labels) might be either/or: Puritans, Social Darwinists

--and on the other hand, a better word for certain "liberals" who have drawn my ire is "Social Justice Warrior."

Today, I saw this article and the comments section served a sort of list of people who seriously deserve to die in a fire. I can't say for certain what all of their political ideologies are. I don't know any of them. Granted, I'd be willing to bet they identify as conservative, but being conservative alone is not enough to make me want to strangle a person to death the way I do for so many of these. My oldest brother is "conservative" and would probably agree with said people, but I know him. He is complex. I could probably talk to him about it and explain to him why he's an idiot for thinking that getting everyone a gun would do anything to stop terrorism.

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Although I'll fully admit the potential for perception bias there. Again though, that applies to you as well!
So long as you realize that the intense laser focus of your perception bias exceeds the perception bias of everyone who has ever posted in the Asylum (collectively) by an factor of about six trillion, yeah.
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It's the same thing that folks tried to do by heading to Tea Party rallies, and waving around signs with hateful and bigoted messages.
No. Those were your conservative friends. Oops, sorry..."conservative" friends.

Y'know...the ones you claimed were a poisonous part of the right - over and over - and claimed the right couldn't exclude them despite their totally racist, hate message...over and over? Because despite their evil rhetoric, they were in the right (heh) because they were "fiscally conservative" and therefore justified?


Over and over and over again?

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What're you gonna do about it, you *****?
I could reply with something generic.
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It took you this long to stop taking Gbaji seriously?
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It took you this long to stop taking Gbaji seriously?
At least he's learning about euphemisms. Usually it's like reading conspiracy theories by a pikachu, but the occasional "the left" and "democrat" really breaks that up now.
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