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#27 Jun 08 2005 at 11:58 AM Rating: Good
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You should make sure he comes home to you ******** another man.

No!
1) That essentially legitimizes his actions,
2) People get killed because of things like this.
#28 Jun 08 2005 at 12:05 PM Rating: Decent
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Can I recommend this little toy the next time he is feeling frisky...

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#29 Jun 08 2005 at 1:18 PM Rating: Decent
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Can I recommend this little toy the next time he is feeling frisky...

Ouch!


Holy sh[/b]it. If Freud were still alive he'd probably have a fu[b]ckin heart attack.
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#30 Jun 08 2005 at 7:03 PM Rating: Decent
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You females I swear. Simultaneously one of the most magnificant, and one of the most pathetic creatures on this planet. I know I will get rated down for saying that, but hear me out. You asked for opinions so here it is.

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i know guys rule their live by their penises but once they say i do shouldnt that stop?


While a bad generelization, it's not necessarily false. A guys ***** does have a mind of its own, and we often have to fight against the will of the ***** to stop ourselves from boning someone we shouldn't. Some guys can take on this will, and refuse to give in to the affections of a lady. Others shrivel up like prunes, and give in without a fight.

In answer to your question. Yes, the messing around should stop after marriage. Unless you two are swingers or something retarded like that.

I'm going to point out some other things. Tell me how my aim is, ok.

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i know i am not unattractive and i also know that a lot of people really like my personality.


I bet you are very attractive. People who describe themselves as "not unattractive" are usually very good looking people that don't want to sound coinceded. This leads me to believe that the people that "like" your personality are probably dudes that just wanna bone you. I'm also guessing you're still pretty young.

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the problem is im not even a wet hole to my own husband.


Think about what you're saying here. This is where the girls are pathetic part comes in. After all your ol' mans cheating, you want him now more than ever. Or you at least want him to want you.

This guy, your husband... He has done everything he has needed to do to ensure himself you won't leave him. You are the prime example of why ******** get laid, and nice guys get shunned. This is what we have learned over time. This is what converts a nice guy, into an *******.

Now you wanna rate me down? How about proving me wrong instead?

Leave this guy before it gets worse (and it will). Show him that you can't be taken for granted. Don't treaten to leave him. Just LEAVE HIM.

Don't bone his friends, his brother, his cousin, his sister, or anybody he cares about to get back at him. This won't fix anything, and you will prove what I have said to be true.

That's it. Do those things and not only will you have proven me wrong, you will benefit everyone who has given up on relationships such as myself.

You will show that women can't be taken for granted. And that treating you ladies like dirt is not the way to keep you around.
You will prove that not all females are ******** Therefore we wont feel like we have to treat you that way to get you to like us, and to gain your respect. You will liberate how guys think by allowing him to be nice to you, without him thinking he is a total sucker if he does.

Edit: Toned the post down a couple notches.

Edited, Wed Jun 8 20:11:39 2005 by SmokesAlot
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#31 Jun 09 2005 at 7:27 AM Rating: Decent
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Its been said so many times, I'm only saying it again to further my posting ticker: Dump him. And yes, I honestly would cheat on him and tell him all about it before I do it, but thats only because I'm vendictive. Actually, I probably wouldn't tell him about it... Instead I would get a video-tape it. Then I would leave the tape on the bed with a post-it that has his name on it. The tape would open with me telling him its over/you suck, ect. Then it would cut to the ***, which would be rough with moans of how better this person is than your soon-to-be-ex-husband.

But yes, either leave him or don't complain about it. Not everyone cheats, despite what some people say. Cheating is one of the most vile things you can do, and there are some of us who actually have standards still.

And in the future, don't cry out that men cheat as if its a fact of life. I swear to God I would like to slap the **** out of everyone who says things like this.
#32 Jun 09 2005 at 10:42 AM Rating: Decent
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ok i need a bit of outside opinion. i know guys rule their live by their penises but once they say i do shouldnt that stop? i have been married for one year, and one thing my husband cant seem to realize is that when he lies i ALWAYS find out. he has cheated 3 times since weve been married. i also found out he cheated 2 days before the wedding(no, not at his bach. party). 6 months into out total 5 year relationship he cheated with an ex. i forgave and forgot because i am a firm believer in that people can change. im at a loss, because it seems like my husband would rather be out with some bimbo than with his wife. i know i am not unattractive and i also know that a lot of people really like my personality. the problem is im not even a wet hole to my own husband. i guess what im asking is what anyone else would do in this situation.


You are dead wrong. The majority of men I know would never cheat once they are involved in a serious relationship, and especially once they get hitched. Most men are capable of having self-control!

It sounds like you need to have some respect for yourself and say goodbye. There are are plenty of other, better fish in the sea. If you can't trust him, it will never be a happy marriage. I know it's easier said than done, but just move on. You'll be glad in the long run.
#33 Jun 14 2005 at 2:07 PM Rating: Good
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i appreciate all the advice but there are complications in the matter. we already have a 2 year old son, and last month i found out i was 3 months pregnant. i didnt find out about 4 of the 5 times he cheated until 3 weeks ago, so my forgive and forget from the first time seemed ok and appeared to have worked until 3 weeks ago. i have a job, but no place to go if i leave, and if i boot him out i dont want to not let my son and unborn baby see their father.
#34 Jun 14 2005 at 2:33 PM Rating: Decent
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That's a shi[b][/b]tty excuse. There are millions of single mothers out there, a lot of whom probably have it worse off than you. Staying with him for any reason is just a sign of your own weakness and cowardice. I hope to god, for your kids' sake, you wisen up and stop being so goddamn passive about everything. Do you really want this ******* to be your children's role model?
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#35 Jun 14 2005 at 6:26 PM Rating: Decent
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OMFG if ur husband cheats he doesnt really love u or deserve u. Neither me or my husband have never cheated and thats the way it is supposed to be. Bottom line he cheats on u once shame on him he cheats on u twice shame on u. Get the &^%% out of dodge and find somebody who appreiciates u and believes in a faithful relationship.
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#36 Jun 24 2005 at 1:04 PM Rating: Decent
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I really don't care about you, but what I'm wondering if he is cheating does he use condoms? I mean that new baby could be born with AIDS and it would be both of your faults because you knew he was sleeping around. Just a thought...
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#37 Jun 24 2005 at 2:14 PM Rating: Decent
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i appreciate all the advice but there are complications in the matter. we already have a 2 year old son, and last month i found out i was 3 months pregnant. i didnt find out about 4 of the 5 times he cheated until 3 weeks ago, so my forgive and forget from the first time seemed ok and appeared to have worked until 3 weeks ago. i have a job, but no place to go if i leave, and if i boot him out i dont want to not let my son and unborn baby see their father.


Some basic problems that will take care of themselves really.

First, no court in the world will bar him from seeing his kid (unless you can prove he is a risk to them). You may get custody, but he'll get visitation and more. So your kids WILL see their father.

Second, in nearly every state Adultery is not only grounds for a divorce, but, assuming you can prove it, a rock solid one and one tht will net you alimony. Moreover, in some states it's actually a crime ( I have no idea how that works, but there it is).

Finally, in most cases the wife, and children, are awarded the right of the home. If owned, and usually the father ends up with the responsibility of most of the bills (at the very least child support and possibly alimony in your case)for it.

So your "reasons" are not reasons at all. They are excuses to stick around. Obviously, this is what you want. So, nothing any of us say matters. You're looking for reasons to stay.

Anyone with a brain will tell you that "staying for the children" is one of the WORST things you can do. You really want your kids growing up in one big stinking lie? You think that's going to make you feel good? How about when things get hard and your mouth screams out something about how your wretched life is all your son's fault because if he'd never been born, you'd have left this jerk? Think that's a positive thing for your son? Or your unborn child.

Suck up the tears, quit the sniveling, and do whta you MUST do FOR your kids and yourself. Cut this guy loose, and frankly if you can gut him and leave him bleeding in the process (financially at least), go for it.
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#38 Jun 24 2005 at 2:35 PM Rating: Decent
You obviously aren't going to leave him. I've gathered that much. The post above was right though, inform him that if he wants to have *** with you again, he has to get checked for STDs. Actually, get yourself checked while you are at it. If he complains and is a total jerk off about going to see a doctor, go do it yourself, even if you have to hide it from him. He will prob tell you he is using a condom, but it's a lie. You can't trust a word from his mouth. He is a liar and a cheater. He has ruined your marriage, whether you are willing to accept that fact or not. He might ruin your life. Don't let him do that.

The kid thing is a factor. A big one. Couples never want to break up when they are kids and would rather endure each other for the kids. I don't care what people say, having two parents is always better than only one. You will have to work that one out, I don't know.

First things first. Protect yourself and your kids. This is a serious issue, make sure it is treated that way. You are at risk of death, remember that.
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#39 Jun 25 2005 at 12:53 PM Rating: Good
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Married 3 times ( yeah I didnt learn my lesson)

My 1st marriage, lasted 8 yrs, She cheated once forgave her moved on. 2yrs later she does it again, Well had enough and divorced her ***, and sad thing is she got the kids ;(.

2nd time Married 8 months, she cheated BAM!! gone in 3 weeks divorce coast a lot but it's worth it.

3rd wife is going great so far * crosses fingers* seriously tho my wife now is a good woman and wont cheat .

So I learned my lesson cheating ******* need to be dealt with the first time.
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#40 Jun 29 2005 at 10:40 PM Rating: Decent
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sweetie, cut your losses and take that ******* to the cleaners. WHy waste your time when there ARE better guys out there.
I've been married 3 years to a Marine - statistics say we got an 80%(or higher) divorce rate and cheating is quite common(we got something among the wives called "Sea Widows") we have spent 3 years together and niether has cheated. Marriage is worth working for with the right person.
I can't even express how much it SUCKS when we had to discuss the "What If's" of death in regards to an Iraq deployment. This young man has been the best friend I have ever had; we work hard to make this work and it does payoff.
This man you married won't change, I think you have been with him so long you are more afraid of being alone (WHICH IS FUN AS ALL HELL) Divorce his butt - it'll cost you around 200-400 bucks but well worth the stress. ***** the alimony just cut your ties and start fresh... you will hurt for awhile but surround yourselves with good friends or Go Back to College!!(make new friends have new experiences...shoot, join the Peace Corp, apply to Raytheon work in Antarctica..DONT SELL YOURSELF SHORT)
Why don't you think you deserve a man who WILL Love, Honor and Cherish you? Men are like trolley, there is always another one coming...don't settle for the first dud when the next one might be a stud.
There are GOOD MEN who would love to make you breakfast in bed on a sunday, bring you flowers once in awhile, take you to dinner and a movie, give you a bunch of money to go shopping with the girls....the good men arn't gay(well..ok there are good men in BOTH sexual persuasions)...Look for a man that cherishes his mom (not a mommas boy) and also watch how that man treats waitstaff...if he is a **** to waitress' - dump his butt cause that is how he will treat you in a few years.


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#41 Jun 30 2005 at 11:15 AM Rating: Default
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Short and sweet: Divorce him and find someone who will be good for you.
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#42 Jul 01 2005 at 12:58 PM Rating: Decent
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and also watch how that man treats waitstaff...if he is a @#%^ to waitress' - dump his butt cause that is how he will treat you in a few years


This is the best comment I've seen in a while. It applies to both sexes equally to be honest. If you want to know a person's REAL character, watch how they treat the waitstaff.

I had a co-worker that used to come with a group of us to lunch. He had a habit of snapping his fingers to get the waitresses attention. If that failed he would clap his hands. If he still didn't catch on that she was trying to ignore him he'd snap his fingers and call out "missy! Hey you! Are you working?"

One day I simply got up, spoke to the waitress, took another table alone and had a great lunch. He asked why, and I was painfully honest "Because you're a **** and a jerk. And frankly whatever they might do to YOUR food back there I simply don't want them doing to mine."

You learn a lot about a person by how they act towards those in the service industry. A LOT.
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#43 Jul 02 2005 at 7:18 PM Rating: Decent
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BEcome a nun.
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I learned in psychology that if you want someone to change, you must change yourself and they will adapt to follow. If you want to try and work things out with this guys then i would, first tell him how you feel about his actions, not us. Second if he doesn't take your conversation seriuosly then, yes, go head and cheat on him. He may just change his ways if you change yours. ;)

I got a one year old kid, and am married, i hope things work out for you. But if this guy has cheated on you this many times, i would really question if he loves you anymore, or at all. I know i love my wife and could never cheat on her. And i also know when me and my wife were fighting years before we got married, i sure as hell didn't love her then, but yet i didn't cheat on her cause i'm a decent human being.
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#45 Jul 07 2005 at 7:09 PM Rating: Decent
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I learned in psychology that if you want someone to change, you must change yourself and they will adapt to follow.


but remember: you can't change cheaters, liars, or thieves. -.-;;
When people like these say they'll change, they will...for about a week, a month at max, then give into temptation and go at it again. Just divorce the asshat.
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#46 Jul 07 2005 at 8:25 PM Rating: Decent
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It sounds like most of the advise listed above came from men - which i find commentable!

You asked for opitions, so here is my two cents. I have been in your situation. As a women I fully understand, however I will say in my case it happens only once and I divorced his ***.

Repeated though the posts I saw everyone saying to dump his sorry ***, I must say I fully agree. I DO NOT agree with the "Go out and cheat on him" opitions. I don't beleive this will solve anythings and in some cases may make things worse.

Please do yourself a favor and speak to a lawyer, move out or see if can get him to leave, it will be the best thing for you. Be perpared for the events to come after. It WILL NOT be easy, divorce never is. It will challenge your very being, but do not give up and do not give in. It will be worth it in the end. It will make you a stronger better person in the long run.

But at some point you need to stand up for yourself and set limits of what behavoir is exceptable to you and which ones are not. We all like to live with our rose colored glasses on but the truth is, that he does not either A) Love you B) Respect you C) Respect himself or D) all of the above.

In the day and age of AIDS and other STD it is not wise to stay with a man that can not keep his pants zipped. There are many STD that someone may carry and not know it... when passed to a women (and you do not know you have it) it can make you sterile OR lead to cervical cancer (and by the time it become cancer there is no cure)

Please, Please, Please for your own sake, get out. There are really good men out there that know how to treat you right and you will find someone else.

The path that lie ahead of you now are of your own choice and of your own making. Hold your head up high knowing that you stayed hoping for some kind of change and walk away knowing that you were the better person that the sanctity of marriage is what you deem important to you and begin again. It is never to late to start over. We only go through this life once and to go through it with someone who does not respect, love, admire or challenge you on an everyday basis is not someone worth continuing with.

Never allow a man to take away the things that are important to you, that is when you lose control over your own life. Be strong, and do what you know needs to be done and what I suspect you have known all along.
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I think that this thread should be renamed "White Trash"

Its people like you who keep trash t.v. alive and strong.

Thanks for making me feel so much better about myself! I didn't really need the boost but after reading this thread I realize why the strong will always manipulate the weak, and there is plenty of "weak" out there.

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#48 Jul 08 2005 at 5:30 PM Rating: Decent
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At the end of the day, it comes down to your own decisions. Its your life and you should choose to make the right decision. Don't do something you may regret in the future and don't rely on what other people tell you to do. Do what you think is right, but make sure that you are posotive about what you do. How do you feel about this man and does he have the same feelings for you....?

(Hope it all works out for you)
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Staying for the children is stupid.


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The kid thing is a factor. A big one. [...] I don't care what people say, having two parents is always better than only one. You will have to work that one out, I don't know.


That's false. Having children in a bad atmosphere is far worse. I personnally know that. The kid is only 2 years old. Divorcing now, in 2 years, he can easily call a new boyfriend "father".

If you stay with him for the kids, be prepared for a VERY long relashionship. Do you want to divorce when your older child is 10? 15? 20 and out of the house? But that still leaves your second child. So 22 years of that kind of relashionship? That's actually what my mother did (ok, that was a very different situation (my father never cheated) but we did live hell for a few years after the divorce). The sooner you do it, the better everyone will be.

And you will have time to find someone else, and you won't be angry at yourself for losing x years on a jerk.
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#50 Jul 13 2005 at 4:13 AM Rating: Decent
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yeah i don't agree with stay together for the kids thing... if my father cheated behind my mom's back and I knew it, I personally think I wouldnt be able to live in the same house with him (and this isnt me being a rebelous idiot teenager lol). It would hurt me too much to see him walk around the house pretending to love my mom when he really doesnt.

its best to divorce him before the kids have a chance to go through the pain of lossing a parent by not understanding "why?" or "what went wrong".

I'm almost turning 18, and I don't know much... but thats what I think.
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#51 Jul 13 2005 at 1:16 PM Rating: Decent
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By the way, "guys cheat, duh" and "guys rule their live by their penises" is wrong. Only jerks do that. Once someone has loyalty and respect in their important values, They won't cheat.

If you do want to build your life with someone that doesn't care about loyalty and respect, then stay with him.
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