Bard complaining (the fun ones :)Follow

So... the purpose of this thread is to create a place for us bards to gripe about things that aren't really a big deal, but are fun to complain about. Bring your funny stories, your >.< *doh!* moments, things like that. I.e. I'm bored at work and looking for bardly comraderie.

My complaint is my static whm. He's a great guy, and a very good whm. However, the guy can't stand away from the pt for the life of him. We'll be in a long tunnel with nothing behind us. Where does he stand? Between the melee's and the wall. We'll be in a big open room with a wall to our backs. Where does he stand? *Again* between the melees and the wall. Do I talk to him about it? Yes. Will I talk to him about it again? Yes. Will he listen? Probably not. :) Sorry Cam, but it's true.

We have a Pld in our static too. I don't even try to get him to stand in place for ballad. How can I? The whm is running all over everywhere!

I guess my second complaint is that, despite how much I love this job, I'm dissapointed how often we get stuff leveling. I'm Elvaan, so I've been using most of my RSE since low 30's. Now I'm fifty, and soon I will finally get some new armor pieces. That's what... 20+ levels of the same stuff?

And songs are the same way. I don't have a single carol. I know I should get them, if only because they might (in some strange and incredibly rare circumstance) be useful, but... 39-51 with only one, maybe two useful songs in between is just lame.

What about everyone else. What are your humorous pet peeves about being a bard?

I hate hills.... seems like they mess with song distance somehow because when I stand on one and start buffing, it just gets screwed up and only hits myself. (damn valley of sorrows >.< )

The Ordelles stairs are the worst twig :x.
Also, I dislike seeing melee type out "Dispel" eight times when a crab uses metallic shell, just to use finale and realize the melee took off his stoneskin in three shots ;x

Edited, Thu Feb 24 23:34:23 2005 by splynk

well here is my story last night.

I was in a party of 6 with the following setup...

nin, thf, drg, rdm, brd, and blm.

we are lving in Dessert and killing beetles mob.

Typically me as brd, i go sing att and acc song on the melee.

Then i cast ice weaken on mob, then sonic song and this slow song. then i quickly run back to the mage, cast ballad, then int song on blm and mind song on healer. THen i will help the healer heal ppl, and dispel the mob if he does anything that require dispel.

Well this mention work great 99% of my pt experience as brd. But the problem is that when link occur.

in a middle of killing a beetles, a beetles spawn. I was doing my normal song order, but...the beetles is spawn (physical visiable on my screen and a link party message together) when i in a middle of casting ballad.

First during that moment, i have 2 choice, one is interupped ballad and quick cast sleep.

But my cast on ballad is 60% already... so even i interupped, it don't make much different, coz it still need abit of time interupped it.

So i decide cast sleep after ballad.

by the time i cast sleep nin die. (in this point u may ask me why only me cast sleep, why blm don't cast sleep as well) The blm have been dc, but body is physical there, but sooner it disappear in the middle of battle. rdm have full mp, but no idea what she is doing, all i see is she just stand there.

Now this is what happen to me. But at the end of battle where we all die, i look back the chat order...

It say:

Link...
Cast Sonic song
Sleep it
Cast Slow song
Brd Cast cure on nin
Cast Ballard
Cast Sleep

the message does say that, so it is my fault from looking into the message box. But during the battle, i am 100% sure it is not in that order.

This is what i see on my message box and physical display on my screen.

When i cast Sonic and Slow song, i was casting right next the mob we are battleing off, there is only 1 beetles only. (i was turning 360 degree clockwise on camera angle around myself while i was casting, to ensure there is no link pop) When i run back to the mages, who are physical there, but actually been dc... i was doing cure on nin, coz i see her have yellow hp and no one cure. I was doing cure spell, facing the mob we lving off from the mage side's view. (during this time, again only 1 beetles)

By the time i in the middle of i cast ballad (at 60%), my screen appear another beetles next to the nin, and my party chat message have 2 message appear saying link, sleep it. So i quicky cast sleep after ballad.

But from what i look back the chat message, it is complete different to what i see in my screen. (I have good vision, no glasses wear and i'm in good health, no thing wrong with my eye, in a big bright room, with lots of lights)

This make me feel weire, and i kind of upsad about it, coz it look like i am doing bad on the job. >_<

I don't really agree with this, it's partially true but not completely.
Most jobs can use the same tactics they would use in an XP party (with the exception of RDM who should not be casting phalanx+stoneskin+blink+en-* every time it falls in XP) to help out friends.
Just change your playstyle up a bit and you wont have a problem.
I pretty much solo'd the cap items for a couple of LS mates (THF/MNK and WHM/BLM, granted the WHM was doing status cures and enfeebs but other than RegenII didn't need to heal me) over the past couple days.
I just went is as BRD/NIN, dropped some of my CHR gear (noble's ribbon, flower necklace, one loyalty ring) in favor of some +eva/+enmity gear (emp. hairpin, spirit torque, mermaid's ring)
I wore my full AF (minus the hat), grabbed a pair of Cermet's, ate some Sole Sushi, stacked Marches, and went to town, getting in a 300% Spirit's Within every two mobs, and barely getting hit
Granted I didn't try the bombs (they already had that item from another party), but liches and exo's were easy.
As for missions, many of them are alliance-ready, which we excel in (I had Rank 10 @ 55 thanks to some friends that wanted a ballad-*****) and the rest, worst case scenario, we're an MP battery for the mages and a Sniper's ring for the melees.

well, different people have different way to play. Normally i find the more u speak, the more problem created.

Different ppl have different options and things. U can say one thing, if the other party member don't listen, its fair enough, coz he/she have the right not to listen. So don't feel upsad, if someone is tell u to do that, if u disagree what he/she say.

Best way to find out what is right or wrong, is just do research yourself, find proof, fact that support it. Then try it out your self and see what style of method work best to you.

For example, my bro and i have different standard on forming party. My bro always angry say to me, i will always only invite ppl with good sub job, rank5 or above. But i complete disagree with what he say.

He say lots of low rank don't play their job well. I told him, everyone have been low rank before, it matter of fact is that they will learn while they play the game. Then he just tell me that he is here to lv, not to teach. I told him that, xp or lv up is part of the reward, getting to know ppl and help other ppl is another. xp isn't really everything.

worst time... 2 brds, one pty, one know what there doing, the other wants him to heal... worst pty ever.... I DONT HEAL!!!! BARLEY EVEN BACK UP!!!! AND IM TARU!!!!

My complaint is a version of the timeless "They won't listen to me!". It's not when they flat out ignore me, they just won't get the right songs. What really bugs me is when ha;f the party ignores me, while the other half is trying hard to position themselves correctly.
I.E.
Me - After SATA the party should setup like this..
Me - Mages - PLD - mob - Melee, OK?
Party - OK
During battle I've had one of any number of things happen.
A. PLD lines up on the wrong side of the mob, and then asks, "Can I get Ballad too?"
B. First voker lines up in the wrong position throwing the alignment off.
C. Melees refuse to move to the back of the mob.
And my favorite -
D. Mages stand too close and usually next to a wall.

I also don't appreciate the DRK that asks for Ballad during battle, but proceeds to only cast Stun only when the BLM gets hate from MB, ignoring his Absorb spells.

Last, but not least....
PC's who constantly tell me to sing something that I am either already singing, while I am singing something, or that I just cast. My favorite, "I need Ballad!" when they already have it!

Thanks for the thread, I feel better having gotten all that off my chest!

the fact that i never get to skill up in skill up pt -_-; i'm going to have to start risking my life to go solo some twtbw to get some skills ; ;~ the melee kill them off so fast the mob is essecentially dead before i even pull out my weapon ; ;

bomb toss (on a taru ; ;) i am usually busy singing songs for mages and stuff on the pull so i never have time to cast stoneskin ; ;~ bomb toss kills me a lot ; ;~

i haven't been un/anon for weeks... but i still get /t from my ls mates to go exp when i wanna craft ; ;~

thfs.... i'm sorry i know u're just doing ur job.. but it just erks me seeking u get ballad -_-; i don't pt thfs anymore

/clap


That sums it up for me as well. Will they ever learn?

If you've got ninja leveled, try subbing that for farming. It's pretty effective, being able to debuff with both ninja powders and bard songs plus madrigal, valor, paeon, etc, etc.

my pet peeve is people calling ballad "refresh".

it's not refresh, damnit! do i look like a rdm to you?

What I hate ?

PRELUDE !!! PRELUDE ! (with 3 RNGs in the pt)

FINALE !! FINALE !!!!!!!!!

or ..

PLD: BALLAD !! BALLAD!! while running around the mob ...