Lack Luster Returns on BirdsFollow

I am wondering how i can improve, just sometimes i feel like my damage returns for a full hit is lack luster. How much damage do you normally do on birds mines seems to be around 700-900 just self buffed just looking for advice

my ws setup for RR and KJ ws are as fallowed

Main: Byakkos Axe
Sub: Pole Grip
Ammo: Fire Bomblet
Head: Askar Zuchetto
Neck: Breeze/Snow
Ear1: Fowling Earring
Ear2: Brutal Earring
Body: Haubergeon
Hands: Fighter's Mufflers +1
Ring1: Rajas Ring
Ring2: Flame Ring
Back: Cerberus Mantle
Waist: Warwolf Belt
Legs: Byakko's Hiadate
Legs: Hecatomb leggings


Merits: 7/8 GA 3 Zerk/Aggressor 4 DA, 4 Crit, 5/5 Str

stats are 429 attack with +40 str +37 dex and 19 accuracy (unbuffed)

Food i normally use is Couerl Subs

Edited, Dec 27th 2008 12:37pm by Galkawar

There's the main reason you see huge numbers.

Why the hell aren't you using food?

I appoligize when i wrote this i was looking at my stats, but yes i use food when i party on birds normally Couerl Subs. What I ment self buffed my damage just seems lack luster and was wondering how to improve it outside of bard, cor rdm dia2, and other obvious stuff like that lol

Edited, Dec 27th 2008 12:38pm by Galkawar

my general tp returns have been 18-20 usually so i know im landing the hits and i have had some ls parcers tell me im around 90ish ws accuracy so will losing the flame ring help me that much?? not sure its accuracy im concerned about considering im @290 skill and well over +40 more accuracy in dex + raw accuracy. and on top of that the ws gorget

Nil thanks for the help ya been trying to give me guess im just trying to hard lol only things i could really upgrade from what i can always seen but doubt i will get that will make any major difference is like Perdu Axe, Heca Hat, and A Hauberk. I just like to try to get the best setup i can lol

I find they never give you the full price back on any birds you return :/

Really, if you have 90%+ acc on the birds, then your WS accuracy should be fine. The rest of your gear looks fine. The main thing to remember is that you're fighting birds for merits, so you really only have two questions to ask yourself.
First, are you getting around 20k per hour? If not, then I'd be worried about my gear and overall damage. That, or make sure you're getting at least a bard in the party.
Second, if you are getting 20k+ per hour, then who really gives a crap if you're hitting RR or KJ for 800 or 2k? You can't realistically push the xp any higher than that on birds cause you run out of them too fast and lose chain.

The problem that I see the most with peoples self image on their WS damage is that other people like to take their max damage WS they ever did, (you know, the dual bard SV Double Minuet, Double Str Etude, Mighty Strikes, Warriors charge, Feint, Angon, Dia 3, Red curry, max Chaos Roll one) and say that's their average...

I don't really like this rule of thumb. Accuracy isn't really any more important than it normally is for the other hits, and a non-factor on the first. Other stats in the right amounts are more worth using than accuracy. The only difference on WS is that you have several, stronger melee hits all compressed into one action.

Eeh, i just take it as that cause of being MNK first. WS mods are lol, so the best way to up average WS DMG is to stack Acc and Att.

They aren't multi-hit, which is part of the equation.

If by much larger you mean 30%/35% respectively, then I guess.

Heca could replace a few of those pieces... Why Cerberus Mantle? I'm assuming you multi-job and are just sharing, but you could use Smilo+1 for more STR; if you're really rich and balling, Cuchulain's Mantle goes a little ways towards upping your crits. Outside of that, Perdu Voulge will push your WSes juuuust a little higher in merits.