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#1 Jul 30 2005 at 6:55 PM Rating: Decent
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I've been off the XP (and, really, anything else) trail for quite awhile lately, as I've been working toward my Hauby (1.8mil/2.5mil as of right now). I gotta tell you... it's getting to me. Crafting, fishing, more crafting, more fishing... yeesh.

So... commiserate with me. Tell me your Haubergeon story, the lengths you went to, the dedication you showed, to get this sweet body piece. Give me some hope. :-)
#2 Jul 30 2005 at 7:36 PM Rating: Good
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I started farming for mine about level 55 when I decided that DD was more fun than tanking for the time(I was stuck at level cap anyway and capped for exp so I couldn't level).

By the time I finally hit 58 I had saved up around 2 mil and anxiously went to the AH to check to see any were up, the going price was 2.5 at the time so I figured I could have it for when I leveled. Then I saw the price spike, the most recently sold one had gone for 2.8 and I was pretty pissed so I made a /sh about the price and went to my MH to mull over it.

At this time I got a /tell, from someone claiming they could make me a Haubergeon for the cost of the ingot. I was excited and walked out of my MH to see them so as to do business. This is when things started becoming questionable...

He claimed he had a friend who would sell him ingots for a reduced price so he could level his smithing up so he asked for the money and stupidly I traded it. He then took a second and went to AH and said he couldn't make it today because no DS Chain was up and I just shrugged and said ok, figuring he was trustworthy. I asked if I could have the money back (as it was all I had) and he said it was already gone to the person who sold him the ingot. I said ok, and goodbye and logged for the day because I had work in a few hours.

The next day I log on and he sends me a /tell, "I broke it" ... at this point I began to question why he would try make it w/o me there to watch since there would be no proof to his words beyond trust. I shrugged it off, he told me he'd pay me back with a Haubergeon free of charge since he failed and I continued living. Days turned into weeks and weeks into months, and he never made any attempt at holding true to his promise and I eventually forgot about it. The final result of what happened to this crafter is buried on the Kujata forums, it spanned 3 or 4 threads and eventually proved him to be highly untrustable, the whole thing is comedic genius when you get to the end.

After hitting 61 WAR I decided to take a break and leveled other jobs, during this time I made a very good friend. She wanted me to level my WAR with her BLM, and I agreed figuring it can't hurt to try. By the time she caught up to my WAR I had helped her with every piece of her AF, level caps, given her equip advice and essentially done everything I could to help her. One day I was in Norg replenishing some of the more elusive NIN tools and I went AFK for a few, when I came back I saw her asking in LS chat "what's a good gift for a lv60ish WAR?" to which my LS jokingly replied "A Haubergeon lol" and she said "ok" then went quiet.

Seeing this I sent her a /tell asking what she was doing and she said {secret} and ran around Jeuno. She then asked me if I knew any smithers and I panicked, I didn't think anyone would just buy something like that for anyone. By the time I got back to Jeuno she had a PT in Boyahda for her WHM and told me to come pick up a gift. I arrived and she traded to me a signed Haubergeon, and needless to say I was happy, so happy in fact that I ran off to another part of Boyahda to show a friend and aggro'd about 8 Processionaires and 2 Goobdues dying before I could show them.

My friend quit about 2 weeks ago and I still don't know if I deserved it, but to this day even tho I use Hauberk for exp, I still have it. Currenlty leveling my SAM so I can wear it on another job, and this time for a great deal longer than before.

And I've begun rambling. This is what happens when you ask for a story.
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#3 Jul 30 2005 at 7:54 PM Rating: Default
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I bought lots of gil. But then I didn't my friend quit and gave me 1 mil, I made sacrifices ie. Snippers rings and bought it. Fun!
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#4 Jul 30 2005 at 7:57 PM Rating: Decent
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Jattou, that's an awesome story.^^ Well, the bit with your friend, not the scamming scumbag. >,<

Edited, Sat Jul 30 21:02:16 2005 by Tibor
#5 Jul 30 2005 at 8:05 PM Rating: Decent
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I decided not to level to 59 until I had my haubergeon. My ls had a high level blacksmith in it and I asked him if he would synth it for me. He agreed and so I went to saving. I'm a miner, so I spent a lot of time in the mines. I stayed at 58 for quite awhile. Any day I could manage it I mined in the morning and then again at night. I would occassionally level a sub if I got too frustrated with just mining. Looking back now I should have just gone ahead and taken all four subs to 37. But I mined and leveled and did some questing and mission runs. I think it took me a month or a month and a half. I started to watch the market on the damascus ingot, and right after the December patch came out a rumor went around that the ingot was available from one of the new BCNM battles (I don't know if that rumor is true or not, even now) - and the ingot price started dropping. When it hit 1.5 mil I decided I had better not chance it, so I bought one. My blacksmith bought the darksteel and HQ'd most of it, so I didn't have to pay nearly as much for that as if I'd purchased it. And another friend is a clothcrafter and gifted me the cloth for my hauby. So I was a very, very excited person to sit in the blacksmith guild and watch my haubergeon be crafted. I still have the screenshot. And I'm proud to wear it, signed by the blacksmith. (thank you to Drako and Kestra) It was a grueling process to get it, but I can remember dinging 59 and changing into it. It was in Valley of Sorrows, my entire party cheered me on and it felt like I didn't miss a hit after equipping it. It was one of the high points of my warrior career. It was so worth the work. I'm still proud of it ^^
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#6 Jul 30 2005 at 8:51 PM Rating: Good
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Well, I may only be 41 at the moment, but I've already started the pain. I'm mining for both profit and to level my smithing. I've leveled my cloth to a good enough lvl (51) and have my smithing to 54. Also one thing I've found to be very profitable is to always have the best equipment. By the time you stop using it, the price to sell it back will have greatly inflated from when you bought it. This only seems to be a good source of money if you buy the best of the best equipment.
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I was a static tank at 55, and decided....I'd try tanking in a Haubergeon.


SO I started farming my *** off doing giddeus for awhile. Did BCNM run where we split the loot 6 ways, walked out with 500k from that. SO at this point IM at around 800k when my friends sister retires and he splits what she leaves with me....boom another 800k.

By this point Im in upper delkfutts tower, farming and hoping and praying for enki to be kind.


Long story short he is, and I finally get my money.








I like Jattou's story better. It had it all, conflict, drama, a sweet ending. Sad she quit though. The world could use more players like her.


Stay the course Tibor. It is a kickass piece of gear.
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#8 Jul 30 2005 at 10:57 PM Rating: Decent
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I started around 55 + 56 too, quite somewhat late time to begin for farming 1,8 Million.
Since i didn't have any job for the most popular BCNMS i couldn't use up my Seals at all. I don't take part in crafting either so there was nothing else left for me then to farm as much as i can. I always farmed for my stuff that i needed.
So i took like the next 3-4 weeks off to farm Crawlers in Buburimu Peninsula, THF was @ 10 at this time so i didn't have TH either.

To gain money even quicker i startet to sell all my old EQ from my Mogsafe that i stored up there. First i didn't want to do it, but since it was such a pain to get that much....
I also went out to get my missing Teleport Scrolls ( Mea, Altep, Vahzl, Yhoat ) and sold em @ AH.
Vahzl was the most pain cuz i tried to solo Shadows without taking Shiheis with me. The end of the story to that was that i died two times and my precious LV 60 was gone, and so did the Af Body i was so proud of to wear.
Then the frustrating parts begin, Vahzl Scroll didn't sell three times, and even worse after i finally got like 1,7/8 Million together for the Hauby i realized the price went up to a good 2,3/5 Million Gil.
At this point my first thoughts were "Ok, i don't want to anymore, i have enough of this now"....so what i did was to trade all my CP i saved up for Aketon first and bought some of the R.K pieces that were selling for 100-150k and i gave all my money to a very good DRK, i have become friends with both ingame and irl. He needed Hauby to @ 59/60 so i gave him my 1,9 Million and then i left the game for about 3 months.

And when i finally was able to make it back to the game, i was presented with the Hauby he took care of and bought with the money that was left and mine i gave him.
Now we're both using it whenever someone of us is going to level, and for our friendshipthe Hauby did tie it up even more. :)
And i have to agree, Jattou's story is quite really touching.
I can imagine the pain it caused....and sorry for your friend too, but at least you'll always have something special that keeps you remember him/her.

Edited, Sun Jul 31 00:02:58 2005 by Seldio
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#9 Jul 30 2005 at 11:41 PM Rating: Good
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Jattou wrote:
The final result of what happened to this crafter is buried on the Kujata forums, it spanned 3 or 4 threads and eventually proved him to be highly untrustable, the whole thing is comedic genius when you get to the end.


I have to ask, as I'm way too lazy to check... Did he page 8 himself?
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My haub story started in january. I hit 50, and needed to know where to go next. So I started af. Got boots in 3 days. Levelled rdm to 25 so i could do coffer runs because I couldn't afford sneak oils. Got my mask key at 7am one morning, and the lorica by tagging along with a rdm af3 doll party and asking them to swing by behemoths afterwards. half of them did, hilarity ensued, and we won.
Then I spent 2 full months in eldieme. I was 57 when I got my gloves. Hunan the holy ****** **** good monk stayed for 3 hours, soloed 3 tomb warriors at once, and got it for me.

So then, I got to 60 and started saving. Got my zvahl key on the third try, delevelled, relevelled, and pimped out my lorica.

At which point i said *********** i can't level in this!"

so i started farming sauro insessantly. I crafted enough yag drinks to put budweiser out of buisness. And after 4 weeks, I had saved 300k.

The next day, st. Patricks day, haub went from 3.5 to 3.8M.



Many tarus died that night. Horrifically.


so then, I got on the bcnm circuit. did a round of 60's and hit the jackpot: travler's kukri and elusive earring on my lot.

So i did what any reasonably guy without snipers did. I bought a byrnie and tried to say hell with it.

I proceeded that day to go to monastic cavern and put on a whiff show unlike any Devil Rays game you have ever seen.

So i took a break. levelled thf to 37 in a week. ninja the next week. then i grabbed beastmaster, and didn't drop it for 2 months.

I intended to give up partying forever. But one day, the immortal Rykoshet pulled me out of the depths of garlaige with a simple "Hey, my static needs a dd. What's your warrior?"

So i bought some sushi and went out into the wild blue. Took down some ***** in terrigan. Which, btw, is no small feat at 61.

So there i was, level 62, and my love for warrior rekindled with a few massive rampages. I looked at myself and went "Self, you don't farm as a warrior. It's pointless. Take the 600 seals you've made as a bst, and unleash hell.

You heard me right. Amazing how many seals yiou get in a party of 1. So i proceeded to do the all bst bcnm40, and helltail harry quivers in fear at the sight of my baraboi axe. I bought myself a haub at 62, after a week of bcnms, and never looked back.

I got to 63, did zm4, quit for a week, came back, got sky in 3 nights, then used the rest fo that week and the 2 after it to go 63-70. Without playing on weekends.

Yes, I am insane. And I love it. 73, beyotch! ^_^^
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#11 Jul 31 2005 at 12:34 AM Rating: Good
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I farmed steamed sprouts and tabar beaks for about two months to get my first haubergeon. Then when I needed a new one for my WAR I just bought it.
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#12 Jul 31 2005 at 2:36 AM Rating: Decent
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I have a question as well.

I have been DD in precisly 1 xp party on my way to 56. i did lvl 46.5 - 47 in a DD slot. every other time I have been main tank. I don't duel tank either. I have been in about 4-5 parties with duel tank.

I don't really see myself moving out of the tanking role. People invite me cause I can tank and I like to do it.

So should i drop the 2 million for a Haub? I like to be versital but really do you think it's just a status symbol for someone in my postition?

I think I would do just as well with the lorca... or if i stummble across 3.5 million i would get a byrnie. I don't really see myself tanking in it. it would be sweet for macroing in to my WS, but i eat a lot of sushi now with a STR/ATTACK set up.

Just wondering...
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#14 Jul 31 2005 at 5:47 AM Rating: Decent
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I farm tabar beaks for months making 40k an hour and selling any equipment i didnt need.
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my haub story was about sacrifice..

back when i was new, i had hopes of going pld, so i felt i needed astral rings.. hence months and months of farming, this was back when astrals were still coming from castle O coffers, and cost about 250k each.. so i farmed like a madman, sold everything i didnt need and scraped up 500k, two astrals later there was one broke but happy galka..

i'd kept hold of those astrals for the best part of a year, no matter how broke i got i always kept hold of them, i worked my whm up to 18 using them, no mean feat for a galka, they were my pride and joy, my preciousss's

i hit 58, i'd been farming for ages but somehow always managed to not keep hold of the money.. worst part was investing about 700k in a poor attempt at doubling my money via crafting witchkabobs.. i was desperate, i sold all the armour i didnt need again, i sold my old weapons.. it was still not enough.. then i saw astral rings going for 800k each..

after a debate with my LS, because i've decided after i get to endgame the next job i'm doing is whm (for a total change of pace) which i'll need astrals for definately, i chose to sell them..

each astral sold for 900k each, giving me the 1.8mil i needed for the haub, which had also dropped from 2.2mil that day too..

so now i'm the proud owner of a hauby, but can no longer mess about with my whm untill i can raise 1.8mil again.

thats my haub story
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#16 Jul 31 2005 at 9:53 AM Rating: Decent
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Wow, some very neat stories in here, and which definitely provide some encouragement. Some of you have some serious dedication, too... months of farming? Good lord, and I thought my week or two of boring, antisocial crafting/fishing was tedious... I bow in great humility to you guys.

After yesterday's great Ferry fishing haul, I'm at 2.2mil/2.4mil. Almost there..!

Edited, Sun Jul 31 11:01:48 2005 by Tibor
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The journey of the haubergeon for a first job warrior is one that makes or breaks a man.

Consider that to farm as a warrior, you need to sub whm, spend 8k a stack in bloody bolts (and some places you don't make 8k in drops during that time), or /heal for 5 mins every time you hit red hp...

It's rough. At 50, It cost me 50k a piece. at 55, it cost me 200k a piece. At 60, byrnie was 2.3M and haub was 3.8M.

That haub was 8 times the cost of every piece of gear I owned at 50 combined.

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To answer one question, the haub allows you to do the damage your lorica's enmity makes the mob think you did. Mobs die faster with it. You will never be missed, but most of us who have to tank go /nin and pray for a good support line. A whm that flashes, a rdm that hastes, a blm that puts away his nuke trigger long enough to stun the second your recast window opens...

If you can find all of these things, you are a more efficient tank than paladins or ninjas. Bards stack carnage elegy at 59, and you don't know what to do with yourself, because you can recast completely between swings on a mob with elegy and slow stacked.

I call it suicide tanking. You tank in full DD setup, and simply attempt to kill the mob before it eats you. Works best with VT-low IT. For example, Valley of Sorrows at 60, not 57. Onzozo at 63, not 60. For a warrior to tank it+++, you need a bard, red mage, white mage, AND black mage. That's... not a lot of room for DD's.

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Keep up the good work, Tibor.
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Bought Enklados for 200k sold for almost a mil. That gave me enough to afford it lol.
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#19 Aug 01 2005 at 4:51 AM Rating: Good
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/Comfort OP. I feel your pain.

At around the time I was nearing 59 I really started to think about how I needed my haubergeon. Having Cooking at level 93 helped for a while, but after earning 300k, cooking set into a depression for a week in which all cooking items were either not worth the time or costed more to make than the selling price.

Instead, I got a different idea. A long time ago back when I was a MNK, I HELMed for gil. This was a very good money maker but after a while it got boring and I decided to stop, especially after the gilsellers came in.

Then I got an idea: "level WHM to 20 and use your already-leveled NIN sub so you can mine in Ifrit's Cauldron and invis without aggro!" This wasn't an original idea, as many others before me had thought of this as well, but I had thought of it on my own.

After enduring the grueling dunes grind (I swear the xp couldn't have been slower. That and I'm a terrible WHM.) I started making a steady 100k a day. After getting the whole route burned into my mind, I got it down so I could go in without dying unless I wanted to. :) I reached 1 million and threw a party that week. After that, I went back to mining.

Then one day I struck it rich. Four Adaman ores, two darksteel, and an Oricalcum. Total money made that day: 500k. I was only 100k away now. I couldn't have been more excited. The next day I lucked out, for 8 haubies were up and I bid low.

"You buy the Haubergeon for 1,920,000 gil"

OMG I couldn't have been happier! I was nearing tears because it was such a joyous moment.

Then the fact hit home that I was still 58 and couldnt wear the damn thing for another 10k exp.

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#20 Aug 01 2005 at 9:10 AM Rating: Decent
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Made three stacks of shihei toolbags yesterday (120k x3 = 360k), minus about 100k in costs (mostly Elm Logs), plus fished another three stacks of Noble Ladies. I'm now at ~2.3mil, with 360k on the AH.

I can nearly taste it. :D~
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I have the exact opposite Haubergeon Blues, since now I have it.. pretty much to skill-up in, and show off (though I think I look sexier in my Lorica) and not really wear much to farm or kill stuff in. I'm pausing for a while to level my subjobs all to 37 so I never have to stress out over them again, and I find myself sometimes just staring at this two-point-one million gil monster in my mog safe and wondering how else I could use that much money.

This is another reason I'm afraid to ever enter Dynamis and get a Bravura - save me your "lol"s and "good luck, noobs", if I want it I shall have it - because I just know I'll never want to unequip it for any reason at all.

BCNM? Sorry, can't use the Bravura.
Sea? Oops, level caps.
XP party wants Spampage? No can do.

Little things like this coming up are why I hate idle time in the game. Gives me too much time to think. D:
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Myself, I invest in items. I bought up stuff that I knew would go up in price, like the Enkelados that were mentioned, but I have since sold everything that I don't use to level subcrafts. I just got smithing to a high enough level to be profitable without relying on Darksteel Ingots, cause your profit dries up and dies if ou break one or two.

Anyways, two more levels of that (which will require at least 30 levels of woodworking >_< and did require 53 levels of clothcraft along the way >_<) and I am at the magical 70! I already have a spreadsheet of date for cross-craft recipes that I can either make with little competition or HQ once in a while. If I can put that damned NPC away for a few minutes some day, I may even get somewhere =P.

Oh, and Schlumper! (sorry, new LS member =D)
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I took war to 30 and was so tired of it I could puke.
Unlocked the rng job and life was sweet again.
But 53 lvl's later the ever so wonderful Ranger job blew like the winds over some good ol' desert.
So I sold all the crap I had gotten for my ranger during those 53 lvls and decided warrior is kinda cool, with double attack and all.
And well, I was right.
So when I got close to 59, those 20+ bcnm40 runs I did with my rng finally paid off.
Ofcourse when I did those, Erase was only 300k and so was Utsusemi: Ni, so I wasn't as rich as I would be if it was today.
(And no, I did not spend 800 seals, me and a friend bard organized runs for people and they were kind enough to give us full share even though we did not bring our own orbs.)
But I had enough after selling what I didn't use, and a minor loan from my bro, to get me a damascus ingot cuz I couldn't afford a Hauby at AH.
So all I needed now was a smith, some luck, and some various darksteel chains, ingots and whatnot.
Well, first things first, I found me a smith.
Uzee, the best jp there ever was, is and ever will be.
With my lacking japanese skills, and his not so good english, auto-translate was our best friend.
He invited me to a party, where he had 4 of his jp friends.
And each of those 4 knew like 5 words of english each.
So after like 30 minutes we finally understood eachother... alittle.
There was not enough ingots, chains or ore in AH at the time.
So my bestest (sorry, got alittle carried away by the sweet memories) new found friend got his friends to tell me he would chip in with some chains and ingots he had lying around.

"Uzee syntesized a Haubergeon"

And well, even though I'm not religious, I always say alittle prayer for my best <Japanese> <Friend> Uzee.
May he live forever.
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#24 Aug 01 2005 at 1:27 PM Rating: Decent
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Now... here's a question. Assuming, hypothetically, that I have th money when I get home from work today, should I buy the Hauby straight-up, or buy a D-ingot and find me a 100 Smith and go for a +1?
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It's tempting, but don't. Damascus Ingots typically cost the same as haubergeons, and if you get scammed or anything goes wrong, the setback will be tremendous.

The extra 1 str and 2 acc will not make nearly the impact that the 5 str and 10 acc of having one at all will make.

Also, the haub is the last real purchase you have to make until you hit 70. There is literally nothing worthwhile to buy 60-67, unless you really want a demon's axe (I did). Once you finally get to 69, all you can buy is a Pick (nadziak), thick gear (relatively cheap after 10 levels of saving), and trade your haub for a hauberk

Just buy the haub outright, and enjoy your victory. You have 10 levels of grind and determination ahead of you before you hit the endgame (denoted here as 70+) and get to reap in it's splendor.
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The reason most players are "traditional" is because they also want to be successful. If other subjobs could be played successfully, they too would become traditional setups among the player base. If your aim is to be non-traditional, then the consequence is that you also won't be successful.
#26 Aug 01 2005 at 3:13 PM Rating: Good
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I'm personally having a friend of mine sign me one, the ingot is 1.8 mil and hauby is 2.3 on diabolos so i save about 150k. plus, i get my good friend to make something a bit more special to me.

The thought of a loss is scaring me though...
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