BLM = #1 Stunna?Follow

No

*shrug*
I don't even try to stun bombs, casting spells and resting are better uses of my time. I'll barfira before and DS+curaga after. But standing there waiting for a bomb and hoping it changes to a gob-rush when I could just kill it seems a colosal waste. And besides, suicidal gobs make for fast chains.

Thanks for the feedback.

I thought this was common knowledge, but the leader blamed the failure of the party on me, even though A) the BRD couldn't keep barfira up and B) the NIN couldn't keep hate even against single tier III spells, let alone MB'ed III and II-gas. I had to limit myself to like one III and one II per fight. Anything more and the NIN couldn't regain hate.

Maybe she was just taking her update-related frustration out on me.

if the goblin has more than 70% or so HP, stun away, if not, just let him toss.

do your debuffs, then wait until Skillchain or the gob is at 2/3 hp to do anything but hover on your stun macro.

it's the suicide bombs that kill parties, but only when the gob still has a lot of hp left.

>.> drk have a few debuffs of their own to worry about too, but the reason all debuffs have such a short cast time, is because:
A) they should be cast at the beginning to debuff the mob
B) with the short cast times, it will be alot easier to catch most mob attacks unless you are totally ignorant and dont pay attention

yes it is, try to get stun first as a BLM then talk about it...

I've actually tried it, you did not; soooooooooooo

Try it before u speak, ok?

No one said it was hard. It's just sometimes IMPOSSIBLE since our spells can be long to cast. Typically, even if we wait, the mob usually doesn't do his tp move until the blm starts casting again.

DRKs are teh better stunners in most cases.

Gear has nothing to do to withstand a bomb. Even with godly gear, a suicide bomb at 90% + health might kill some of your melee at full health. Maybe its fun for you to get exp while whole lotta ppl die in the front cos you are not doing your job assuming there is no drk in the party.

To OP, yes, stun is very decent spell. Try stun when mob is using specials that do massive damage or aoe or when your tank is at low hp. With good rdm's debuff, pld and whm's flash and blm or drk's stun, it really gives a easy time for tank to do its job. Especially whm's flash... not many whm does it and i fail to see why. Sure flash grabs hate, but one flash costs 25 mp and it makes mob miss once to 3 times... its quit worth it.

Edited, Fri Jul 22 07:02:15 2005 by Kulapica

Sometimes better gear isnt the answer, a lot of THFs and BRD wear that ugly justacorps armour or whatever which has -25 ish fire resist, that hurts a lot on bomb toss and I generally call it flammable armour ^^

put it like this....
"i stun when i can"

nuff said :D

To everyone who's never played BLM and saying the BLM is supposed to be the main stunner in an XP party...you don't know what you're talking about.

By the time you're XPing in Gustav, spells take twice as long to cast as a Bomb Toss takes to go off.

This can and will happen:
"Nibba begins casting Blizzaga II.
Palladinguy hits Goblin Something for 30 damage.
Goblin Something readies Bomb Toss.
Uberranger's ranged attack hits the Goblin Something for 110 damage.
Darkknightman hits Goblin Something for 85 damage.
Goblin Something uses Bomb Toss.
Palladinguy takes 642 damage.
Darkkightman takes 321 damage.
Uberranger takes 642 damage.
Palladinguy was defeated by the Goblin Something.
Uberranger was defeated by the Goblin Something.
The Goblin Something falls to the ground."

Unless you were casting AM, it's probably faster to wait until after the spell goes off rather than /heal, stand back up, and try to get off Stun in time.

A DRK has to Skillchain, and use an Absorb-STAT spell at the beginning of the fight, but could otherwise go AFK half the fight and no one would know. A BLM who does nothing but stand there waiting for a special move all fight is pretty useless.

P.S. I rather like the Black Cotehardie even with its -30 Fire resistance. I wouldn't fight Ifrit or XP on IT++ gobs wearing it. Besides it looks cool in a weird sort of way. I don't stand next to Goblins while XPing usually anyway.

Shield Bash is notoriously hard to actually stun a mob out of a move with. And it's on a 5 minute timer, so you can only use it every few fights. Flat Blade works well if your PLD has TP ready for it. But I wouldn't count on a PLD over a BLM to stun a mob, ever.

NOTE: This doesn't mean that I won't try to stun a gob if I have any chance at all. It just means that "any chance at all" is not necessarily all that great.

I've never managed to land stun on time yet, this is the most annoying spell I've ever had. EXPing off flies in CN they kept spamming cursed sphere and venom, but only when I'd just started casting a spell, so I never had any chance of stopping it. Then, to rub it all in, I had the RDM constantly spamming "wtf stun you n00b" when we had a DRK in the pt who wasn't stunning at all, and he could barely keep refresh up on the PLD. Even if I sat doing nothing with RDM sub, hovering over my stun macro, it never goes off in time to stop the flies AoE attacks, so is there any point casting this at all on fast activating mob abilities or is it only useful for stopping long cast ones like bomb toss etc.