Why is SCH hated?Follow

I really think WHMs are the ones who are most put out by SCH and yet I'm levelling it.. I agree Jing that it's less and less likely that WHMs will now get something to completely redress the balance on ~na's. I can still see there being a 3 min recast on Divine Veil but Yagrush makes that seem less and less likely.

Problem is a SCH can Poisonaga every minute post 70, WHM can do that every 10 (less if he/she has merits in Divine Seal recast) post 50.
As /SCH you don't have the Accession stratagem, so you can't -ga status removing spells at all. Unless you use DS.

I really wish SE would do something about WHM. So much for healing specialist when we are clearly inferior to SCH when it comes to support our parties with Erase or -na spells, which is a big part of our healing duty.

That being said, SCH to me is perfectly fine now. BLMs from my LS love to have me in their pt, and I don't honestly see the reason behind all this "hate". Now SE should just go back and readjust other jobs like WHM, BLM and possibly others.

Edited, Aug 14th 2008 4:57pm by Eeri

Edited, Aug 14th 2008 5:15pm by Eeri

Except SCH doesn't get all that, they get 2-3 of them. If they get stoneskin/phalanx/blinkga, that's all they get. If they want regenga 2, there goes one of the other buffs. If they want AOE status cures, they can't get any of the buffs. (since anything you need a -na-ga on you're going to need every minute or so at least) If they want to protectra/shellra or curaga another party, that takes stratagems, meaning no buff -ga's, no status removal -ga's, nothing else! If they want to enhance banish spells (um, why?) or cures, they can't do any of the previously listed things.

Oh and they can't nuke while healing well, since you need a stratagem to switch to dark adendum, AND one to switch back to white addendum to get na spells, and ANOTHER stratagem before they could buff-ga, cure-ga, status removal-ga, etc.

Yep, light weather cure potency is something WHM doesn't have, but SCH doesn't have 10% cure potency on their body piece. But they definitely aren't using anything in dark arts with light weather up, since it'd up the mp cost and recast of every spell by 20%, and lower the potency or drain/aspir/sleep by 20%. (dark weather vs light weather)

Really, SCH is in no way competition for WHM. Ooooh they can status removal-ga! And they can do so by lowering their healing ability, because -na-gas takes away their aoe buffs or aoe cures! (Or any of the stuff in darks arts!) And frankly, beating WHM in AOE status cures, by giving up protectra/shellra/curaga/ and all the buffs SCH needs to use to make up for the lack of haste and curagas, plus everything on the dark arts side, isn't really a threat at all.

Ummmm, he's saying "Don't try and switch abck and forth between healing and nuking, because you'll suck." That's obvious. That in no way applies to me, as I'm saying SCH can't, while only saying in light arts, do everything people are saying it can. Like this stuff, where someone says SCH can do all of this at once:



And it's a simple fact, that they can only do 2-3 of those at once, which is completely fair, not all of it at once, which would be broken.



Even if you don't switch over to dark arts, SCH can't do most of what you say it can. Even JUST buffing and ehaling, it'd use all it's stratagems on buffs. A SCH would never ever drop stoneskinga, especially on those monsters, who love AOE spells, multihit WS's and AOE ws's. Against those enemies, shadows aren't stopping ga2-3's, aren't stopping frentic rip, and your only defense is stoneskinga. (and lets not get into seigan and third eye) Especially since, unlike WHM, you can't counter a aga spell with a curaga, without using a stratagem. They also CAN'T drop enspell-gas unless they like their party doing 10+% less damage over time. WHM has haste, and doesn't have such a worry, and would be better at that. Then, when the party inevitably does take damage, they need regenga2, or a curaga to heal that up, so there goes another stratagem, and they might have phalanxga'd before the damage so they have less to heal later.

If they were saving their stratagems for AOE silena (which is rediculous, since only the guy with hate needs silena immediately, once he's silenced you have 3-4 shadows to start silenaing others.) the party would be taking far more damage from not having haste help their utsu recasts, taking far more AOE damage from missing stoneskinga, dealing far less damage due to a lack of haste/enspellgas, and the SCH then has no way to heal everyone before the next AOE because they have no stratagems for curagas or regengas. Being better at AOE status removal than WHM, by being far worse at healing and buffing than WHM isn't really a threat to WHM.



Because they only last 30 minutes, and very very few parties only last 30 minutes. Sure at the start of the party you can cast them with your stored up stratagems, but when theyw ear off, you are back at one stratagem a minute, and have to choose, "Hmmm do I want to put up stoneskinga to save me hundreds of mp curing the damage on everyone, and make them all take more damage over time from lower magic/physical defense, or do I want to cast protectra/shellra, and lower the damage every time they get hit for the next half hour, but have to blow hundreds of mp healing them when they don't have stoneskinga for the next 3 minutes?" When your party is trying to go nonstop for 6 hours, that really adds up over time.

WHM heals better than SCH. WHM buffs better than SCH. WHM raises better than SCH. SCH can aoe status removal better than WHM by getting even worse at the things WHM is better at. WHM could use -na-ga's as spells, yes, but on a whole WHM is already barely threatened by SCH at all.

I don't normally say things like this, but seriously... louispv, you're an absolute idiot.



Where, in that entire quote that you highlighted, did the poster say anything about SCH doing all of that at once? Secondly, you keep trying and trying to justify that SCH as it stands right now is perfectly balanced, when you have a plethora of people from the BLM and WHM sides, as well as a few SCHs, that admit that SCH got a bit too much with the last update.

Accession at Lv.40 alone is enough to justify some pissed off WHMs. You essentially get Divine Veil 10 levels before "FFXI's premiere healer", and you can do it once every two minutes (at that level) at most. That's a farcry better than WHMs, who have to sacrifice their ability to enhance Cure potency in order to do the same thing once every 10 minutes.

At Lv.55, Rapture basically acts like a Divine Seal once every 1:20 at most, since you have 3 charges at that level. You basically took WHMs "Divine Veil" and "Divine Seal" abilities and completely trounce them.

The most important thing for a WHM is managing their MP. WHMs don't tend to run around spamming Curaga III and Cure V at a whim, as you seem to think in your deluded little universe. The only thing that WHM clings to that keeps them in favor is Haste, and nothing else. Other than that, and the ability to Raise III, a SCH can effectively with proper management of their strategems do everything a WHM can do, only better.

And that's not counting your little pocket storm, either.




Only defense is stoneskinga? How about... Silence? Amazing how well that stops those annoying -ga II and -ga III nukes. Or perhaps having a smart PLD that uses Shield Bash? Or a DRK/BLM to cast Stun? People had to live for awhile without the benefit of Stoneskinga against those type of mobs (unless they actually had a SMN to use Earthen Ward). Trust me, Stoneskinga isn't an absolute must. It's just another plus on SCHs plate.

Phalanxga. Very powerful damage reduction (moreso than RDM meritted ability, Phalanx II), and you get to AoE it and provide better protection without merits than a RDM can, unless perhaps they have 5/5 in Phalanx II. Then the Phalanx II might be comparable to SCH AoE Phalanx. Except, of course, SCH get to do this at Lv.66 using /RDM instead of RDM having to be Lv.75 with appropriate merits. Phalanx lasts 3 minutes. At Lv.66, when SCH get Phalanx, they gain a strategem charge every 1:20. Four levels later, they get one charge every minute. Not like it's a huge ordeal using a charge for a spell that has a duration twice as long as it takes to get the charge back.




Yes, WHM have Haste. Thank God, or they'd be completely shelved, for the most part.. and once again, WHMs don't just run around spamming Curagas.

Oh, and En-spells duration is 3 minutes. You'd have to use 2 charges every 3 minutes to keep Phalanxga and Enspellga on the entire party. Really not a problem, since you get 2 charges in 2:40 at Lv.66 when Phalanxga becomes available. You'd be able to keep Phalanxga and Enspellga on the entire party while still having a charge to burn for an emergency Curaga or AoE status removal.




-ga isn't the answer to everything. If you're a SCH doing healing duties, you're thinking like a WHM. The smart WHM, and by extension, smart SCH, would cure the tank, cast a Regen II on another hurt PT member, then a Regen I on a slightly less hurt party member, and maybe a couple more supplemental Cures. Not go, "ZOMG DAMAGE CURAGA!" and take hate.




This just makes absolutely no sense and I am now dumber from having read it.

Nix the whole Stoneskinga fetish you have, kill the absolutely retarded idea of "Silenaga" and save it for something like "Paralynaga", and think like a WHM when you're making your arguments. A smart SCH can perform much better than a WHM can, with the only exceptions being Haste and Raise III.

Jesus, you talk like the PT is getting bombed by AoE stuff every 10 seconds. If that's the case, even Haste for Utsu recast isn't going to do much good to anyone.




See above regarding "SCH thinking like a WHM when performing a WHM role", and "Stoneskinga isn't SE's gift to Vana'diel". People live without the benefit of Stoneskin all the time. Trust me... not having Stoneskin isn't a huge liability.




SCH heals more efficiently, ergo better, than WHM. SCH buffs more effectively than WHM, with the exception of Haste. SCH can AoE status removal better than WHM without having to sacrifice doing anything that they can already do. You just have to start thinking like a smart SCH instead of a ******.

WHM is probably more threatened by SCH than BLM, for the simple fact that Haste and Raise III is the only thing they have to hold on to.

Alibi: a WHM/SCH can use Penury/Cure V for some very effective and MP efficient healing, once every 2 minutes at best.

I'm not understanding this Regen, WHM merit argument you're making. Me for example, I have maxed group 1 merits and I don't have Regen merits. I maxed Cure Cast Speed like every single WHM should, and then I chose between Barspells and Regen. I decided to max Barspells. Also, I'm 3/5 on Relic armor and don't have the body piece. So, maybe if I keep at it I can get ahead of what SCH does with Regen at level 40.

And just for clarification, if I didn't merit Barspells or get the relic armor, SCH would have better barspells. They have better barspells from level 10-74 regardless.
You make this far too complicated. It's really very simple. You have two jobs. One focuses only on white magic, no black magic at all, so that they are the best at it. The other focuses on only black magic, no white magic at all, so that they are the best at it. Then you have a job who works on both to gain more versatility, except they are way too far up the list.

Tell me what spell Black Mage learns at level 75. The job that ONLY focuses on Black Magic, when they reach the pinnacle of their skill, level 75. They learn Thunder IV. Somehow, SCH gets that. It would be like you getting Reraise 3, the only spell WHM gets at level 75 after focusing ONLY on white magic the entire time. Explain to me how SCH should get RR3 and you can justify having Thunder IV.

It's not balanced, and it's not functioning perfectly. Now the other jobs certainly need major buffs, but so far there's no word of this yet. All we can be sure of is that next update SCH will get group 1 merits, and the new Nyzul relic will be revealed. After that, they will get group 2 merits, AF+1 and relic armor aswell. So, SCH is just going to get better. There's no way it could be perfectly balanced now, it's supposed to be underpowered now, it's not even done yet.

Edited, Aug 15th 2008 5:19am by JingWoo

Are you really trying to say that WHM has never known what it feels like to have competition? What about ... RDM? Also, DNC has alot of very nice tricks as a healer, like not having to rest ever or having every cure used be instant speed. That job is not done yet either, so we'll see what happens with that. Also PUP got all Na spells, Cure V, Regen III, and limitless MP. What happens if SE fixes the AI like every PUP is begging them to do?

For as long as I've played WHM, it's been in the middle of fierce competition for it's slot in any party and only shined fully on harder endgame fights.

Edited, Aug 15th 2008 6:26am by JingWoo

You know, I levelled WHM from 1-60 on Kaetara before I retired her, and I never had to worry about Curagas as much as you seem to. I really tried to avoid using Cure IV, too. I had all the nice little -enmity items and such, but really.. I just didn't see the need to cast it. Your argument about Protectra that you are clinging to is irrelevant. One charge every 30 minutes when you regain them at the rate of one per minute is paltry. The only thing I will grant you in the way of Protectra/Shellra is that WHMs can merit and gain access to Protectra/Shellra V.

You seem to be laboring under the thought that I am speaking about endgame events. I'm not. I'm talking about standard XP/Merit groups. As Kaeko said, when it comes to endgame, you want the specialists because, well, they're specialists. You're gonna want a WHM to main heal for Cure V, and the occasional Curaga. You'd want a SCH for AoE status removal and AoE buffs. When it comes to your standard, run-of-the-mill XP/Merit party, there is absolutely nothing that a WHM/BLM can do that a SCH can't do better.. except Haste and Raise III.




Well, since you're counting, throw in your Sublimation while you're at it. WHMs don't get Refresh without a RDM, last time I checked.




My God, you're an idiot. You tell me to learn English? I said Silence stops -ga II and -ga III nukes. Cursed Sphere is not a nuke. Bomb Toss is not a nuke. Multi-hit TP moves like Frenetic Rip, Rushing Drub, and Pecking Flurry are also not nukes. While we're at it, Frenetic Rip, Rushing Drub, and Pecking Flurry aren't AoE, so no need for using a Curaga after them.




Because WHMs can only AoE status removal 3 times an hour by sacrificing their Cure Potency JA. As in, they can't use it for potency. As in, they have to wait 10 minutes to have a shot at using it again. That's the absolute best they can offer, unless they fully merit it and get it down to 9 minutes by giving up their Regen Potency, Barspell, or Cure Cast merits, which just isn't worth it. SCH can take those 8 strategems that we set aside and be able to AoE status cure 4 times and still have 4 Cure Potency strategems. Or, they can AoE status cure 4 times, AoE Cure 2 times, and have 2 Cure Potency strategems. WHM can't touch that. Not even close.




OK, let's talk Curagas. Curaga II is, in effect, an AoE Cure III. It will restore ~180 HP to party members within the area of effect, not counting any potency effects from Light Staff, Noble's Tunic, etc. It costs a WHM 120mp to cast Curaga II. It costs 88mp to cast Cure IV. If the tank gets hit with Frenetic Rip, you're not going to cast Curaga anything to heal the damage. You're going to cast an appropriately tiered single-target Cure.

Let's assume you got hit with some random AoE TP move that did ~300 damage to the whole PT. Use a strategem, cast Regenga II, and throw the tank a Cure II or Cure III. Problem solved. The Regen II will restore ~240hp to everyone over the course of one minute, wherein you will have your strategem charge back. The additional Cure II or Cure III will push the tank a bit ahead since they are tanking. You'll spend a grand total of ~107mp and have the PT sufficiently healed to be able to continue.




One minute isn't a huge ordeal. Really.




AoE cures.. meh. "Better Regens" only applies to Regen III for WHMs, which they can't AoE. Haste, Flash, and Raise III, sure.




You're also assuming that the SCH has no more than one strategem charge at any given time, and that anything the SCH does will force them to wait another minute to get that charge back. Sorry, but that just isn't the norm. If you spend 2 charges to AoE Phalanx and Enspell, you'll have both of those charges back a minute before those effects wear off. You'll also have 2 other charges leftover after casting them for whatever else. For every minute that passes that you don't get hit by an AoE whatever, you get another charge.

You're also assuming that you're going to be the only one casting Cures, which implies a NIN tank. If you're using a NIN tank, a lot of damage is going to be mitigated by shadows, and if you have a PLD tank a lot of stress is going to be taken away from you since they can cure themselves.

If a SCH is brought into a PT to main-heal, then they should do exactly that. Phalanxga and Enspellga would take a secondary seat to healing, and would be cast only in circumstances where you have the charges to spare for them. They're handy to have, but not an absolute necessity. Protect/Shell consume two charges every 30 minutes, AoE as necessary, with the occasional Phalanxga or Enspellga thrown in as appropriate.




No. It's not. You're saying the other mage jobs need buffs to put them above SCH, "where they should be". I say SCH should never have been given so much to be above the other mage jobs, because they are specialists at what they do. What SCH needed was a buff that gave them unique applications that made them valuable, rather than a buff that gave them everything that makes the other jobs what they are, rendering them near obsolete.

Awhile back, you posted something along the lines of, "SCH needed a buff because there was no reason to invite a SCH because they were worse than WHM or BLM at everything." If WHMs and BLMs were to get this buff, then you would be back in the same boat of, "SCH are weak because WHM and BLM do everything better than we can", which is a faulty mentality. Yes WHM and BLM should do everything better than a SCH, because they are specialized and SCH isn't. That's the biggest issue.


Edit: had to double-read my post and fix some faulty math.

Edited, Aug 15th 2008 10:07am by Kaetara

Okay, lets again think about it for a second. If SCH had never gotten the buff, they'd still be where they were in lol territory. And then BLM and WHM got the buffs they deserve. Now SCH isn't even unlocked anymore by anyone new because it's an incredibly worthless job. And then SCH would be given the exact same buff they got in reality, and NO ONE WOULD CARE, because BLM and WHM have always been better than SCH. And then you'd be balanced!

It's unfortunate that SE fixed SCH before WHM and BLM, but if it hadn't been SCH fixed first, then any fixes they did down the road would NEVER get rid of the lolSCH stigma. I mean DRG STILL had the LOL-DRG stigma all the way till the 2hander update, and they'd never been lol at all, just slightly worse than others.

Or look at PUP. For the first few months, they were horrible, because there was tier 1 npc sold parts and almost nothing else! People came up with LOL-PUP at that point. PUP then got tier 2 attachments, ENM60 parts, ashu talif parts and now aprts off Ob, and are FANTASTIC when played correctly. When played correctly, using the right frame and the right attachments, and the right maneuvers, PUP can tie most other DD's. (since they can give att bonuses, acc bonuses, haste, magic attack bonus, etc to their pets with attachments unlike other pet jobs.) But they're still LOL-PUP because for the first few months they blew! Because they were legitamately gimp the first few months, they will forever be almost unplayed and seen as gimp, long after they stopped being gimp!

EDIT: had to fix "I'm a morons" and add PUP

Edited, Aug 16th 2008 12:37am by louispv

I'm a 66 sch and I love the job too. But then I have a 75 blm and whm so the easy way around this dilemna is easy. Sub whm and you have DS curaga 2. SMN and BLMs have done fine with just that. Our accession, rapture, etc just made our life so much easier. I feel bad for smn that are going to have to xp as /whm. ;;

Right, exactly. Scholar has four charges. Each one of those which recharges in the space of 1 minute. Unless you're using all four strategems in the space of a minute, you're likely to have one available. You only need two Strategems for AoE Protect/Shell, leaving one free for your Stoneskin. That gives you a spare you can save for those AoE status cures.


Not entirely sure where you're going with this argument. With Light Arts up you can access almost every major White Mage ability save for tier 3 Regen and Raise. With a White Mage support job (There's no rule that says you have to use RDM) you have access to Curaga without using charges as well. The only tradeoff with a white mage sub is the loss of Phalanxga and Enspells, but if you're playing as a healer those skills are less important anyway.


Unlike a white mage who can't AoE status cure except on a 10 minute timer, and ultimately by throwing away their cure potency buff. Again, each SINGLE strategem is on a 1 minute timer and Scholar can have FOUR of them saved up and ready to use. It's extremely unlikely, unless you're over-nuking or wasting them on unnecessary buffs that you will not have at least one strategem available.

If you play Scholar like a healer, there is nothing a white mage can do that Scholar can't besides R3, Haste and their own merit-specific skills. Nadda. Zip. Scholar doesn't even have access to Group 1 merits yet, and already there's a big gap in ability. With a possible reduction in Strategem recasts, or perhaps the ability to increase our maximum strategem limit Scholar could trump White Mage forever in merit parties.

Add to this the ability to cast Helix spells for massive damage using Klimaform, storm spells and Modus Veritas and you not only have an extremely capable healer, but also a DD. Two slots combined into one.

So take away everything they got and give them regain, so they can be regain whores? Sorry, but that's not a job by itself, that's a single spell you need to level to 75. At least RDM had A enfeebling, convert, and refresh, SCH would just have regain and nothing else!

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They can't do both at once, and if they try they fail misserably, and fall far behind WHM and BLM. The only way SCH beats WHM or BLM is mp efficiency, over long periods of time, and if they are switching, even just every half hour or so, they didn't have enough time to beat BLM or WHM at anything.


Fail arguement is fail. Healing SCH trying to nuke fail at both.

The helixes don't work on anything IT++ or above, since they're almost directly INT based, they MUST have a weather spell up or they do about half damage (and if you're curing with light weather, well, good luck with any nonlight helix), and modus veritas doesn't enhance the damage of helixes at all. (And it's on the same timer as the divine seal/veil you despise.) Not to mention, there can only be one helix on the enemy at once, so any spell casting from the SCH after the first is worthless, if SCH wasn't given tier 4's as everyone seems to believe they shouldn't have. (God forbid there be a second SCH there, he'd be really worthless) Plus, without modus veritas, the monster will probably die before half the damage from the spell is done, making it one of the least mp efficient spells in the game.

"SCH should have just been left with helixes, and left nuking to BLM" is the dumbest arguement this side of creationism. Since you all seem to have realized "And they can nuke, too" is bullsh*t, and have since moved on to "Well they can helix too"

What people don't seem to understand about SCH is the massive freaking limitations of it.

The obvious stratagem recharge everyone seems to ignore on the new effect stratagems. (the non addendum stratagems) I've gone over it, and everyone just ignores it, but hey, doesn't make it not there. (A good SCH can only use his 8 free stratagems/half hour on everything they do combined., as a recap, after 70. And they get @#%^ all before that.)

That SCH has a D skill in all magic skills without an arts up. Yes they should always have one up, but since half your skills stay D, you MUST switch arts to use half your spell list, ignoring for a moment the mp cost, casting/recasting penalties.

The fact that to get half of their spell list they must first use two job abilities, and then another 2 if they want to switch back! For example, you switch to dark arts to cast a helix (since it won't land if you don't) doesn't take stratagems, right, and you can just switch back to light arts? Wrong, you need to use a stratagem to get the -na/raise/reraise spells back! Lets not even get into what it takes to get dispel or tier 4's or sleep 2 then switch back!

The fact that Helices do absolute crap damage without a weather spell first, essentially doubling the cast time and adding 30 more mp to the cost.

The fact that weather boosts essentially don't work until you have sea obi's. (10% chance of a 10% bonus= 1% boost if the random number generator plays in your favor)

The fact that klimaform is only up for 1/3 of the time, if up at all. The fact that klimaform ISN'T magic acc+20, it's magic acc+20 for spells of ONLY the weather effect on the SCH. (Meaning thunderstorm enhances the thunder 4 spell, and nothing else, not drain, not aspir, not sleep, not enfeebles, not cures, not buffs, JUST thunder 4.) That of course means they also must keep a weather spell up or get no buff. (bye bye 60 extra mp other mages don't need to spend!) It also means if they wanted magic acc for another element, they'd need to waste more mp and time casting another weather spell! (Assuming you could even get another weather spell and another nuke off in the time left on klimaform anyway)

SCH has an assload of restrictions, it's not nearly as powerful as people think. Yes, other mage jobs could use buffs, but SCH really isn't so great that it's an outrage. I can maybe understand BLM's outrage, they went from the only magic DD in the game to having competition. But WHM was already competing with RDM and SMN, it's not like before SCH you got instant anon invites and after SCH you get nothing!

Edited, Aug 16th 2008 2:45pm by louispv

Edited, Aug 16th 2008 2:58pm by louispv

Strategems should not be thought of as a restriction, but as a benefit. I usually compare it to something like meditate. Let's assume strategems did not exist, but you still had access to light arts, dark arts, and sublimation. You have cure IV, you have regen II, you have a form of refresh, and you have B+ magic skill in every area. This is more than enough to handle healing/enfeebling in a typical exp PT (lol smn can do it).

Once you add strategems into the equation, you have the ability to become the best job at damage prevention. Capped phalanxga and stoneskinga mean that the party takes very little damage from the mob, if any at all. If a mob somehow manages to break through this and actually hurt your PT, then you can still cast cures and regens like everyone else. Did you know that cure III is the most commonly used cure and regen II is the most MP efficient regen spell?

You don't even need Cure V or R3. The purpose of cure V is to cure a large amount of HP with little enmity to the healer. However, if the tank isn't taking a large amount of damage, they're not gonna lose as much hate either and won't need as powerful a cure. SCH's raw cure power is obviously lower than WHM, but their style of main healing (i.e. damage prevention) is generally superior. WHM only gets invited because haste is better than enspells in contributing to higher damage output and faster exp.

Finally, I have a little rant about how to use your charges in exp. Use stoneskinga a lot, especially on nin tanks and merit PTs. Stoneskin blocks 350 damage to everybody and prevents the mob from interrupting their utsusemi while costing far less mp than curing similar amounts of HP. It also creates the sort of buffer you need to rest longer than other main healers. Regen IIga should only be there to bring up party HP after they suffer a big AoE and after you reapply stoneskin. Phalanxga is the spell you cast when your strategem timers are full and you feel like you need to do something. Enspellga should be up full-time, because it's the only thing you can do in whm mode that contributes directly to kill speed. In a typical party, I usually cast stoneskinga once or twice and enspellga once every 3 minutes - keeping an extra charge or 2 handy for emergencies or the dreaded protect/shell rebuff. Most of the time, no one gets hit for awhile, and with a BRD I'm usually sitting on top of a full sublimation stock at near max mp. Ridiculous.

I took war up shortly after I finished SCH to 75 and have partied with many of them on my way there. Frankly, they all suck. Most play it like a whm subjob with only cure spam and use sublimation as an excuse not to rest. Or, they take it upon themselves to nuke their mp down the drain, kind of like those BLUs that spend all their mp on one fight and rest for the entire next fight. Sch is hated because the people that know what it can do are disgusted by how overpowered it is while the majority of those that do lvl it have no clue on how to use it to its full potential.