Farewell guys...Follow

You could have made your point while leaving this out, and would have taken no flack. It was an unnecessary drama cry. I am not giving you **** for leaving rdm, or dropping the gear, that is your choice. But you invited the ********* whining and complaining with your own statements, so do not be a baby about the results.



When you made it public domain, you gave them the right. You chose to leave like this, nobody else did, and you knew EXACTLY what you were going to get, and wanted it to make some grand point.

You threw away all that gear... quite a slap in the face to everyone who helped you get them. You don't throw away a grandfather clock that someone gave you as a present.

And to justify it by saying rdms are broken or worthless or whatever is ridiculus. You personally failed as a rdm quite simply, don't whine that its the job's fault you quit.

Well your decision to leave the job is one of maybe 3 things that I have ever agreed with u on. I've never understood why people play a job to 75 (That's a long friggin time I dont care how fast you level) that they hate and continously dis. Maybe easy invites? A quick path to endgame? IDK. Maybe you could shed light as to why you kept it up for this long.

As far as tossing the gear and your statement about using the job as a HP thingy I find it funny how you don't see this as insulting to people that enjoy the job as is. Not trying to sound negative I think that you've gotten enough of that already. Yes the gear was yours to do whatever you like with. I could care less personally as I have most of that stuff. You can call people being jealous of you or what not. But by mentioning that you just threw away some 1337 gear that others are striving to get was a bit insensitive.

Anyways Good riddens but Good luck

The principle of it.

God/hnm ls's award gears to make their ls stronger. To throw that away is to make your ls weaker and thus making you undesirable baggage (especially because you didnt want what they gave you anyway).

Its not "his" time really. It may be his game, but at least 17 other people's time > 1 person's in getting abj's.

Now, honestly I'm just referring to God gears, things that take an 18+ alliance and lots of preparation and setup where maybe all that effort goes into just one or two abj drops.

The more I think on it, I don't understand why Ninjawarrior is staying in game at all if he destroy those things. I mean, other jobs can use those gears.. and can't you store full crimson on an npc? And, its not like he needed the space with moglockers coming out in the expansion.

I mean, its like he threw a fit or something and tossed all his gears just to say he did on forums and make some statement.

Pointless, wasted, shortsighted, and to top it all off... completely wrong about the rdm job.

You can quit rdm because you fail to see anything in it, but to trash gears that can be used for other jobs is retarded unless you're quitting the game.

Because I respect the job, and people who try to do the job well and are actually deserving of such gear but find themselves unable to acquire it, partly due to people like these who grab the gear only to throw it away later. Topics like these are trying to set a standard and it's not a good one.

Like I said, if something like this were to occur in my Dynamis shell, when some guy outlotted me a month before on the gear and then just decided to pitch it, I would be pissed as hell and I would never trust them with Dynamis or any other items of value ever again. I wouldn't even mind if they just ditched the LS upon completion of their AF2. However, throwing away gear on a whim like that, gear that many other people strive for a chance to attain and aren't always successful, is just a big ********** you" to everyone that helped you attain it.

Thank you so much Derek for realizing its no big deal. I'm one of the LS leaders for Dynamis and most people leave it seems after grabbing there relic. On a side note, I have passed the relic hat 3 times now which I was first by our points system. I'm not a greedy person and constantly offer gil/help to others to improve there gear for events. I don't deserve the bashing from you guys on this forum.

One of the RDM's that was irate with me is no longer in our LS. I booted him for XPing instead of attending events. It was his own damn fault he lost the relic hat anyway. Now he will start from scratch in another LS because he couldn't do his job.

My opinion of the relic hat isn't that great anyway. The dimished returns off my enfeebling merits/gear doesn't seem to do anything other than HNMs. I rather wear my +1 pimp hat for added INT and Fast cast. I had more difficulty dropping my Genbu shield and Joytoy over all of my AF/relic.


Now I'm dedicated to playing my NIN and BLM jobs respectivly. I'd put my Rajas ring, Osode, and Haidate over all of that gear I dropped anyway.

/salute to Derek for speaking the truth.

My opinions of the RDM job are spread out all over the forums already. I see no need to rehash them here and aggro elitists such as the KC's of the board.

Your right I don't have SMN to a high level. I didn't want to be a gimped WHM so I stayed far away from that job. My point is SE has been adjusting the job to make it better. The update is going to make SMN even better than it is now.

Question:

Are you having fun still playing this game? Look past the jobs and their capability's.

I don't know about the quitting RDM, but honestly, the tossing stuff for more room is silly...not only is getting it back difficult in the extreme with some pieces, but we're getting another 30 slots of "long term" storage.

Mog Lockers will appear, and work like a "storage facility" for gear you simply aren't going to need for months on end, but really shouldn't get rid of...and since it's R/Ex (or just Ex) can't put on a mule.

I've got a bunch of junk I have no use for ATM, but I do have plans for "down the road", and even with 80 safe, 80 storage and GB6, I don't have enough room for everything I need to have handy.

But rather than toss it now, and ***** about needing it later, I'm waiting to put it away long term.

As for quitting because RDM isn't doing what you want it to...honestly, the biggest problem they have, in a nutshell, is to make the RDM any more powerful offensively (with stronger debuffs, better attack, stronger nukes, whatever) makes one of the strongest classes even stronger.

Fusk Avesta, I'm not refering to his BS (real or otherwise)...Red Mage is one of the strongest jobs in the game, when it has "all it's ducks in a row".

We don't -outkill- any other job, but we -outsurvive- all of them.

Almost every job out there can "out kill us", but none of them have the ability to out survive us, and that's -without- us using a subjob...if we sub something fitting the situation, we are amoung the -kings- of outlasting mobs.

Which, btw, is how Avesta does it...he survives long enough that all his DoT's have time to work...he doesn't Defeat the mob, he simply outlasts it.

I'm looking forward to Blue Mage, and not just because of my long-stated desire to run through Elshimo, spamming Dream Flower and shouting: "HEY SPROUTHEADS, PAYBACK'S A *****, AIN'T IT?!?!?!".

It looks like it will be more a melee/mage than RDM is, and after a lot of levels, swinging a weapon front line instead of nuking from the back, begins to appeal...and BLU has both needed support, and the ability to be front line.

Heck, given that 90% of the monster moves they'll pick up are exactly -why- mages "stand out of harm's way", they won't be able to do squat if they -don't- get in something's face.

But I'm not putting my Pimp Hataru away...even if I take BLU to 75, I'm still keeping RDM handy.

Have fun with whatever you do, and it doesn't matter what it is, because it's fun to -you-.


Galantdramon
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Sensubean on Midgardsormr

I'm going to take this as seriously as possible...




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NW like said 3 times...he's not quiting because he thinks BLU will be the be all end all job.

He's quiting cause he hates rdm...

He's quiting cause he hates rdm...

One more time, everybody! He's quiting because he hates RED MAGE.

And once again. I do think that gear, is very nice, And getting it is a great feat that should be respected.

However...

We do all realize that this game will not last forever, and when the final server closes down...or the numbers of people playing drop, those items will disappear. He put just as much effort...earning points, killing HMNS as every other rdm in his ls did. He does not owe anyone anything. I could see ..."Hey can someone help me kill so and so." Sure. they help u, you help them. But once that item is yours...its kinda urs. LS cant tell u what to do with ur own hat. Its like the whole "paying real money for fake money." We all put alot into our jobs to be the best, but at the end of the day, when u go to food lion, no one see's ur duelist c.

Those are his items, to do as he pleased, he earned them just like anyone else. Also. He lotted. Its random. Kill the /random! Once u have an item is urs...He did not steal the hat from anyone either.


Wow, NW, just dont come back and post. Cause its a losing battle. You could come in and say "I like soup" And someone would say "Soup sucks when u eat it!"




Edited, Thu Apr 13 21:08:31 2006 by EarthSage

Your the fool who can't read the entire thread without acting like a moron. I like to try BLU to see what it offers like most people here. Where did I ever say I would level it to Lv75 to replace RDM? Your opened your big mouth with an assumption of your own opinion.

As for lotting on relic, are you really that dense Fynlar? You should know how long it takes to assemble the comeplete set. Hmmm... Could it be possible that I originally intended to use it all from the start. The relic hat seems like the only thing you guys seem to care about here. If you know anything about me you know I like to solo. Crimson >> relic any day of the week pal.

Your just another jealous crybaby that can't wait for your own relic to drop. Booo fookin whoo

I was no longer having any fun at the job I loved so I quit end of story. Why can't you comprehend such a basic emotion as happiness I have no clue.

So tell me one thing before I leave this thread of crybabies for good. If I would have quit the game completly would that have made any difference to you?

There is a thread in the Main forum where people are debating the solo credibility of Avesta, just as there was here a few weeks ago, and I think it is still going pretty strong. Threads like this aren't out of the question.