Or list of bests... incase any of them proved out of reach.

Polyhymnia any good?

Thank you.

*Edited, Sep 16th 2014 8:47pm by RabidInfant*

Scholar

121 posts

Eventually got the Izhiikoh, and now Twashtar is dead and buried as far as I am concerned I wondered what the best off hand would be?

Or list of bests... incase any of them proved out of reach.

Polyhymnia any good?

Thank you.

*Edited, Sep 16th 2014 8:47pm by RabidInfant *

Or list of bests... incase any of them proved out of reach.

Polyhymnia any good?

Thank you.

Jack of All Trades

29,628 posts

If it's high-tier content I'd imagine you want another i119 dagger (in which case Polyhymnia may be a contender, probably not the only one, but I am not aware of all the newer weaponry)

But if it's not, I'd imagine the best thing you could offhand would be an augmented Atoyac with OAT.

But if it's not, I'd imagine the best thing you could offhand would be an augmented Atoyac with OAT.

Scholar

121 posts

Thanks Fynlar.

I don't know anything about the Atoyac, I tried reading up on it but got confused as to what I need to do to obtain one.

I don't know anything about the Atoyac, I tried reading up on it but got confused as to what I need to do to obtain one.

Jack of All Trades

29,628 posts

Either get it off Tchakka or select it as a reward from killing off a set of the WKRs, then use a paragon KI to put the OAT augment on it. Ideally you may want to use either Hurkan's paragon for acc, or Achuka's paragon for atk. (Obtain paragons by beating WKRs with the relevant Records of Eminence objective active)

Basically the Atoyac (and all the other i115 weaponry the WKRs drop) are pretty solid weapons in their own right, upon which you can place a OAT augment that is nearly equivalent to the Joyeuse's rate of OAT. Remember how popular of a weapon Joyeuse was despite being a level 70ish weapon and not otherwise particularly exciting? Yeah.

On NIN nowadays, I typically use the i115 katana they recently added to Colkhab's drops, along with the Atoyac even though it's a dagger. I adjust which one goes in my mainhand based on what I'm fighting (whether I want a slashing or piercing WS, basically). Wielding two of these OAT weapons pretty much shreds through any sort of older content. I don't have to worry about doing harder content on NIN, because it's not like it'd ever get invited anyway. Sadly, as far as THF+DNC goes, the Atoyac cannot be doubled up on as it's a rare :(

*Edited, Oct 2nd 2014 11:26am by Fynlar *

Basically the Atoyac (and all the other i115 weaponry the WKRs drop) are pretty solid weapons in their own right, upon which you can place a OAT augment that is nearly equivalent to the Joyeuse's rate of OAT. Remember how popular of a weapon Joyeuse was despite being a level 70ish weapon and not otherwise particularly exciting? Yeah.

On NIN nowadays, I typically use the i115 katana they recently added to Colkhab's drops, along with the Atoyac even though it's a dagger. I adjust which one goes in my mainhand based on what I'm fighting (whether I want a slashing or piercing WS, basically). Wielding two of these OAT weapons pretty much shreds through any sort of older content. I don't have to worry about doing harder content on NIN, because it's not like it'd ever get invited anyway. Sadly, as far as THF+DNC goes, the Atoyac cannot be doubled up on as it's a rare :(

Sage

227 posts

Thank you.

So if I got the Atoyac with the 6 WKR Ki's do I then need to get any further KI's to put on the OAT or the ATK augments onto the dagger?

So if I got the Atoyac with the 6 WKR Ki's do I then need to get any further KI's to put on the OAT or the ATK augments onto the dagger?

Sage

227 posts

On the subject of good off hand daggers, does the homesteads dagger 'occasionally attacks twice' only work in Rieves or is it active in any area?

Sage

227 posts

Sorry, just a little confused as to the Atoyac's augments...

So far I have 4/6 Ki's from WKR and also 3 (I forgot to flag the first one) KI paragons.

I 'think' that after I have defeated all 6 WKR I then speak to Eternal Flame but I am then unsure what to do/choose to continue?

I would be after the OAT augment and either the Attack +20 or the Crit hit rate +4%... but I don't know how I apply those or obtain those?

So far I have 4/6 Ki's from WKR and also 3 (I forgot to flag the first one) KI paragons.

I 'think' that after I have defeated all 6 WKR I then speak to Eternal Flame but I am then unsure what to do/choose to continue?

I would be after the OAT augment and either the Attack +20 or the Crit hit rate +4%... but I don't know how I apply those or obtain those?

Darqflame's Peon

6,067 posts

You only speak to Eternal Flame with all 6 paragons if you want exchange them for any wkr gear, Prah Janimhar is the npc you're looking for.You'll need either Achuka or Hurkan's paragon for the two augments you want.

Personally I wouldn't bother at this point, you probably could do acouple of Alluvion Yorcia skirmishes very simple farm butterflies for points while person at camp summons monsters to defend your camp, and be able to buy better daggers with 3 wings per weapon, of course it'll be a gilsink depending on how lucky you get with augmenting.

Personally I wouldn't bother at this point, you probably could do acouple of Alluvion Yorcia skirmishes very simple farm butterflies for points while person at camp summons monsters to defend your camp, and be able to buy better daggers with 3 wings per weapon, of course it'll be a gilsink depending on how lucky you get with augmenting.

Sage

227 posts

Sorry just to clarify...

I am looking on google at Prah Janimhar and seeing what augments she offers... but I cannot see how to choose OAT?

I can see what the other 6 paragons provide... (and Achuka is the one I didn't pre-flag, so I would need to get that win again if I wanted the attack +20)

(I don't understand skirmishes, but would be interested to try those if the rewards were what i would be interested in, like excellent daggers for example)...

*Edited, May 19th 2015 8:31am by Danseurfabuleux *

I am looking on google at Prah Janimhar and seeing what augments she offers... but I cannot see how to choose OAT?

I can see what the other 6 paragons provide... (and Achuka is the one I didn't pre-flag, so I would need to get that win again if I wanted the attack +20)

(I don't understand skirmishes, but would be interested to try those if the rewards were what i would be interested in, like excellent daggers for example)...

Darqflame's Peon

6,067 posts

Assuming you're looking at bgwiki there is a table for "shared augments" and its the very first augment you choose then the next is paragon specific.

*Edited, May 19th 2015 9:04am by Szabo *

Sage

227 posts

Ahh ok thank you, i get you.

Assuming i finish the Atoyac, as i am 4/6 KI's i might aswell... what would you recommend as the best option to go with OAT...

Atk +20

Crit rate +4%

I do like crit hitting, but i understand the importance of ATK too...

I am mithra if that makes the slightest bit of difference... and i just kill whats in front of me, for fun mostly, solo usually.

Assuming i finish the Atoyac, as i am 4/6 KI's i might aswell... what would you recommend as the best option to go with OAT...

Atk +20

Crit rate +4%

I do like crit hitting, but i understand the importance of ATK too...

I am mithra if that makes the slightest bit of difference... and i just kill whats in front of me, for fun mostly, solo usually.

Darqflame's Peon

6,067 posts

Crit rate +4% for sure.

Sage

227 posts

So just to recap in order to get an Atoyac with OAT and Crit rate 4% I would need...

All 6 WKR KI's (wins)

And 1 x Hurkan Pargon KI?

That's all?

*Edited, May 19th 2015 11:56am by Danseurfabuleux *

All 6 WKR KI's (wins)

And 1 x Hurkan Pargon KI?

That's all?

Sage

227 posts

I now have all 6 WKR wins and 6 KI's from the wins but I only obtained 5 of the paragons as I didn't flag the first one I did in my records of eminence...

Eternal Flame is not mentioning anything to me about the Atoyac..

Any ideas what I need to do please?

Eternal Flame is not mentioning anything to me about the Atoyac..

Any ideas what I need to do please?

Darqflame's Peon

6,067 posts

You need all 6 paragons then there will be an option to exchange "seven" treasures for any wkr item.

Sage

227 posts

Ok thanks... looks like I need one more WKR then... I just assumed I needed 6 wins, and not 6 paragons aswell as the win KI's.

So essentially I need 12 KI, 2 from each fight...

So essentially I need 12 KI, 2 from each fight...

Sage

227 posts

Just got the 6th paragon...

I then spoke to Eternal Flame and I saw the option to choose the Atoyac... all my 6 paragons then vanished after I accepted the dagger...

So does this mean I need to obtain 2 of those paragons again before I can then augment the dagger that cost me 6 paragons to obtain in the first place?

Prah Janimhar is not talking to me... tried trading the dagger, no go.

*Edited, May 21st 2015 1:54pm by Danseurfabuleux *

I then spoke to Eternal Flame and I saw the option to choose the Atoyac... all my 6 paragons then vanished after I accepted the dagger...

So does this mean I need to obtain 2 of those paragons again before I can then augment the dagger that cost me 6 paragons to obtain in the first place?

Prah Janimhar is not talking to me... tried trading the dagger, no go.

Darqflame's Peon

6,067 posts

Just hurkan's paragon for the crit augment.

Sage

227 posts

Guess my luck just ran out... I caught a shout for Hurkan with it at 60% so I run off to get my KI to enter the fight, I enter at 27% and upon its death I got nothing, no EXP, no bayld, no KI's nothing...

That was my last bayld too for now...

After standing around for the last 4 days waiting for shouts for WKR and thinking i was at last going to get my dagger...

...I cannot tell you how utterly bored I am now...

*Edited, May 21st 2015 2:19pm by Danseurfabuleux *

That was my last bayld too for now...

After standing around for the last 4 days waiting for shouts for WKR and thinking i was at last going to get my dagger...

...I cannot tell you how utterly bored I am now...

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