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#1 Sep 02 2006 at 7:44 AM Rating: Decent
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This is going to be quite a long post so please stick with me. I am new to the summoner job and so far I've been trying to read all about the job and take in any knowledge I can about playing it so as I don't completely embarrase anyone else who is also smn. I have known since I started trying to get the job that untill about level 70 I can pretty much expect to heal the party as either a main or backup which I can deal with as I started to love my whm job and role as healer.

However I am not completely sure about what I should be doing in parties at this level (Im level 16). I know that once I get more summons they will have BPs that can cure and buff the party and so I should summon, BP and release but as I only have carbuncle I am unsure of what to do. Now I know that carbuncle has the very helpful Healing Ruby BP but when I was in a dunes party I was main healing and I found that by the time I had summoned carbuncle to use healing ruby, the party had suffered quite a bit of damage and I had lost a pretty big bit of my mp and was usually better of just sticking with cure I :(

So can anyone tell me if this is just me being a really bad summoner and I should be able to work out how to deal with summoning and curing more effectively or is it just tough at this level? I just don't want to have to move onto Qufim Island and completely suck at my job and get everyone killed.
#2 Sep 02 2006 at 11:22 AM Rating: Decent
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You don't suck, summoners can't main heal till they get Cure 2. I still don't get why stupid people keep inviting smn as main heal on the dunes.
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#3 Sep 02 2006 at 11:26 AM Rating: Decent
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Yes Healing ruby is really good to help cure, but not at your lvl I think...
As you are main healer, you can't really waste your time and btw your MP to summon carbuncle, BP and release.
Carbuncle's ruby is useful when you have free carbuncle (with Carbuncle's mitts and staff) cause you can cast avatar while pulling and your avatar will be up when mob arrive to camp.
Before lvl 20 and mitts, you can stick with cure I ...that's all that I see
#4 Sep 02 2006 at 11:53 AM Rating: Decent
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Ok thanks for the replies. I guess I'll have to stop getting sucked into dunes parties where I have to main heal at this level if I want to be able to do what my job says and summon but so far it looks like those are the only parties I am going to get :(

At 20 I'll look into those mitts and staff and stick to having to spam cure I through the dunes if I need to party. While I'm here, can anyone recommend anywhere I could solo for decent exp at this level and what mobs should I be taking there. I've heard some people mention maze of shakhrami but is that just for parties?
#5 Sep 02 2006 at 12:09 PM Rating: Decent
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Aoshtar wrote:
You don't suck, summoners can't main heal till they get Cure 2. I still don't get why stupid people keep inviting smn as main heal on the dunes.


Stupid people tend to gravitate toward melee jobs and feel anyone with MP should dedicate that MP entirely to keeping them alive. Just ask some Blue Mages.
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#6 Sep 02 2006 at 12:21 PM Rating: Decent
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At 20 I'll look into those mitts and staff


you wont be able to get carbuncle mitts until about 55 and the light staff is a level 51 staff.

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#7 Sep 02 2006 at 1:01 PM Rating: Decent
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Here is what you have to do, create your own pts in the dunes and set up a SC with a melee using Poison Nails. It isn't that great, but no job is great anyway at 20 or less. If someone complains tell them that they are free to leave or just kick, it is your pt anyway.
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#8 Sep 02 2006 at 1:29 PM Rating: Decent
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Just realised the light staff is level 51 but I thought the carbuncles mitts were a level 20 item and I could get them if a very high level friend helped out? I'll also try making my own party next time and see how that goes.
#9 Sep 02 2006 at 2:48 PM Rating: Decent
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Just realised the light staff is level 51 but I thought the carbuncles mitts were a level 20 item and I could get them if a very high level friend helped out? I'll also try making my own party next time and see how that goes.


You will need about 4-5 'very high level' (By this I hope you mean 75) Friends in order to get this without many death's ^^
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#10 Sep 02 2006 at 2:49 PM Rating: Decent
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I thought the carbuncles mitts were a level 20 item and I could get them if a very high level friend helped out?


no, these are very difficult to get. even at 50+ you would need a
party or alliance of 70+ people to kill it for you. you fight a tonberry who
spams searing light which would kill a level 55 in 1 hit. So at level 55
a high level friend could help you get them, but unless you have a high level job you cant really get them.

Edited, Sep 2nd 2006 at 3:56pm EDT by showdoblade
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#11 Sep 02 2006 at 2:58 PM Rating: Decent
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showdoblade wrote:
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I thought the carbuncles mitts were a level 20 item and I could get them if a very high level friend helped out?


no, these are very difficult to get. even at 50+ you would need a
party or alliance of 70+ people to kill it for you. you fight a tonberry who
spams searing light which would kill a level 55 in 1 hit. So at level 55
a high level friend could help you get them, but unless you have a high level job you cant really get them.

Edited, Sep 2nd 2006 at 3:56pm EDT by showdoblade


Well, This is almost 100% accurate, except the 1 shot thing, I did this at 55, and if you have a bard with light carole you should live through it, but RUN out of the way as fast as possible, you won't live through 2.
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#12 Sep 02 2006 at 4:05 PM Rating: Decent
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O.O wow ok, I thought I could have gotten them with 3 level 75 people max (I was talking about level 75 people btw :p) but I guess even that would have been too easy :( Oh well I think I will have to miss out on free carbuncle for a long time! Thanks for all the information ^^
#13 Sep 02 2006 at 4:35 PM Rating: Decent
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You don't need a alliance or even a full pt of lvl 75s to kill the tonberry. 3 or 4 lvl 75s of the right jobs should be enough. He isn't that dangerous at all.
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#14 Sep 03 2006 at 2:11 AM Rating: Decent
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ill have t agree with the post above i did them today and i just went with 4 lvl 75's and myself but then again im a lvl 75 blm >.> still the mobs around the area are tough too its the only real problem besides the fact that the NM does earing light right when u spawn it so try and survive that then stand back or die and let them raise u at the end lol it happened to me at the end NM did searing light for my exact hp lol dam taru hp >.>
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