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#1 Jul 06 2007 at 11:12 AM Rating: Decent
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What earring are you guys using?

I am 74 right now and using merman's earring & fowling earring. I will be able to use brutal earring at 75, which earring can brutal replace?
#2 Jul 06 2007 at 11:22 AM Rating: Good
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at 75, i'll sell my fowling earring and wear brutal earring + assault earring.
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#3 Jul 06 2007 at 11:40 AM Rating: Decent
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isn't fowling earring > assult earring? at least for ws...

Edited, Jul 6th 2007 12:41pm by wingod
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If I had a brutal I would go Brutal + Fowling., BUt I don't so I go Fowling + Coral (I'm cheap and NQ and just waiting til I can get sea for limbus and start to work on my brutal ;;)
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#5 Jul 06 2007 at 11:53 AM Rating: Decent
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isn't fowling earring > assult earring? at least for ws...
For Wheeling Thrust or Impulse iTs debatable if Acc+3 and STR+1 > Acc+2 and Attack+5. But more than likely the extra attack and 1 less point of acc will do more for you than STR+1.
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I use Fowling + Brutal, but then I spend far too much time poking Colbri to death and like the Bird Killer effect.
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#7 Jul 06 2007 at 12:06 PM Rating: Decent
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I don't have a Brutal Earring yet, so I use Assault Earring and Minuet Earring in parties where I have a Bard around. When I don't have a Bard around, I use Assault Earring and Storm Loop.
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#8 Jul 06 2007 at 12:46 PM Rating: Default
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Brutal/Ethdreal Earring all the way

Ethdreal is real good for drg/mage, solo EP you get 1-2 MP per hit.

Brutal is super notice-able on faster tp as DRG/MAGE or DRG/DD job.

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#10 Jul 06 2007 at 1:01 PM Rating: Good
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I use Brutal/Assault for TP gain and Pentathrust.

Brutal/Bushonimimi (Used to be Triumph) for Wheeling Thrust and Impulse Drive.

Brutal/Ethereal for Mage Subs/Solo'in.

And Brakki... go put your NIN/WAR/THF/Dual Wield job comments into the proper disposal area where your comments are maybe actually relevant.

Edited, Jul 6th 2007 5:09pm by holyfork
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#11 Jul 06 2007 at 1:20 PM Rating: Default
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isn't fowling earring > assult earring? at least for ws...


no. for pentathrust, jumps, melee strikes, assault earring will always do more. for wheeling thrust, assault earring will usually do more. small illustration:

there's 3 possibilities for what 1STR can do for wheeling thrust. it can: a) not raise base dmg at all, b) raise fSTR or WSC (but not both) by 1, and therefore base dmg by 1 (fSTR is what STR does all the time, WSC is what people mean when they talk about "secondary mods"), or c) it can raise fSTR and WSC both by 1, and thus raise base dmg by 2.

one can compare in advance the effects 1STR and 5ATT will have on dmg. suppose your fighting greater colibri, which are around lv81, VIT67, DEF330. (incidentally, the bird killer effect would be nice here, but i'm talking about dmg). say you have 600ATT. i'll leave STR open since we're talking about the effects of raising base dmg.

4 scenarios, 4 wheeling thrusts:

1) assault earring:
(93 + 10 + 41) * 1.75 * 1.5333 =
386 dmg

2) fowling earring when it does nothing:
(93 + 10 + 41) * 1.75 * 1.5181 =
382 dmg

3) fowling earring when it raises base dmg by 1:
(93 + 11 + 41) * 1.75 * 1.5181 =
385 dmg

4) fowling earring when it raises base dmg by 2:
(93 + 11 + 42) * 1.75 * 1.5181 =
387 dmg

notice it takes raising base dmg by 2 to get fowling to outperform assault earring. there's a 25% chance that fowling will raise fSTR by 1 (it goes up every 4STR, and is determined by subtracting mob's VIT from your STR--plus some other stuff). with a 50%STR mod, WSC goes up by 1 every 2 or 3 STR. the chances of raising both at the same time by adding 1 STR are very low.

for pentathrust, you're pretty much guaranteed to never be in the fortunate situation where fowling earring outperforms assault earring. this is because pentathrust has a 20%STR mod, and therefore requires 6-7 STR to raise WSC by 1.

the difference is somewhat small, but assault earring is clearly better. fowling earring will NEVER raise base dmg by more than 1 for melee strikes or jump/high jump, and therefore assault earring will ALWAYS be better for those things. fowling will very rarely beat assault even for wheeling thrust, and virtually never for pentathrust, so all in all, having brutal makes fowling earring a "soloing birds onry" piece.

Edited, Jul 6th 2007 5:27pm by milich
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Same as what Holyfork using...

Cept on TP gain, instead of Assault, I use Diabolos Earring, r/ex ftw. On Darkday I will use Bushy or Ethy, depending on mob, my gear, etc.
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#13 Jul 06 2007 at 1:47 PM Rating: Decent
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I use Brutal/Assault for TP gain and Pentathrust.

Brutal/Bushonimimi (Used to be Triumph) for Wheeling Thrust and Impulse Drive.

Brutal/Ethereal for Mage Subs/Solo'in.


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The optimal setup (that doesn't involve daytime/nighttime stuff) for DD would be Brutal/Assault for TP gain and multihit WS with Brutal/Triumph for single hit WS. However, the benefit of Triumph over Assault on single hitters is so neglible that I wouldn't bother investing in one if I didn't have RNG or SAM at 75.

If you don't mind a little extra work you can also try Fenrir's Earring during daytime for the 10 attack but don't forget to swap it out at night. Hell, if you can afford it there's also Vampire Earring you can swap in for WS during night.

Anyway, I consider it perfectly fine to wear Brutal/Ethereal fulltime. Assault is better for pure DD purposes, but I still sold my Assault when I got my Ethereal since I drag around too much stuff anyway. The only reason that I later bought another Assault Earring was that I began leveling DRG again.

Edited, Jul 6th 2007 6:00pm by Phycho
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#15 Jul 06 2007 at 2:02 PM Rating: Decent
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The optimal setup for DD would be Brutal/Assault for TP gain and multihit WS with Brutal/Triumph for single hit WS. However, the benefit of Triumph over Assault on single hitters is so neglible that I wouldn't bother investing in one if I didn't have RNG or SAM at 75.

If you don't mind a little extra work you can also try Fenrir's Earring during daytime for the 10 attack but don't forget to swap it out at night. Hell, if you can afford it there's also Vampire Earring you can swap in for WS during night.

Anyway, I consider it perfectly fine to wear Brutal/Ethereal fulltime. Assault is better for pure DD purposes, but I still sold my Assault when I got my Ethereal since I drag around too much stuff anyway. The only reason that I later bought another Assault Earring was that I began leveling DRG again.


i agree with all of this. the only reason i'd use 2STR for wheeling thrust (if i bothered macro swapping for it or were SATAing) is that i have bushinomimi for SAM. fenrir's earring daytime is definitely the best non-brutal earring too.

i don't plan on selling assault when i get ethereal, but i agree that ethereal fulltime is a fine idea. any evasion at all is nice, really, and inventory space is even nicer.

on that topic, if i didn't wear bushi on SAM, i'd consider selling assault and wearing fowling fulltime, just to save space (since SAM can't wear assault). alas, i do have bushi.

these are all small tweaks, but there's no reason not to consider them. and by the way, if anyone read my post about ATT, fSTR, and WSC, and didn't understand it, you can read more here.
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I'd just like to add that even though it's tempting to sell my Assault again when DRG hits 75 I'm probably keeping it this time. Not for the small increase in performence but for other jobs I plan to level soon-ish.
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#17Brakki, Posted: Jul 06 2007 at 3:04 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Bushinomimi...DM EARRING OF SHAME
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That would be Knightly or Beastly. >.>

In all honesty, Brakki, why bring up that now and here when it's been discussed in probably over a hundred threads in the past only on 'zam, and hundreds more threads on KI and BG?
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#19Brakki, Posted: Jul 06 2007 at 4:43 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Because none of you read GameFAQs or BlueGartr =(
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GameFAQs? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Oh yes I forgot how much of an authority they are on anything more complex than pong. After all, they've produced gems like "diamond is the hardest metal known the man."
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#21 Jul 06 2007 at 8:34 PM Rating: Decent
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Brutal/Assault for TP
Brutal/Bushinomimi for WS
Brutal/Ethereal for /mage, no swaps.

Too many times i've swapped out ethereal as /mage and forgot to put it on.
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#22 Jul 07 2007 at 3:49 PM Rating: Decent
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I guess I was the only person who saw the lulz in Brakki's suppa comment >_>
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#23Brakki, Posted: Jul 07 2007 at 5:24 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) If more people went to the forum I mentioned, this forum would have more lulz and less woosh :(
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B earrings are only 2 STR which has little benefit for drg >.> but it is replacable by Trumph Earring -.-. so B earring is kind of worthless, rather just lv 75 SAM for using it. or getting suppa earring and lv 75 WAR NIN.

You are just trying to make excuse to let DRG can use ex/rare DM earirng, and it is hard to say 2 STR which is the best, 5 attack spike earring > 2 STR as well,

you can just say B earring is better coz "it is ex/are from Divine Might". spike earring is useless coz "it is easy to buy from AH".
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If more people went to the forum I mentioned, this forum would have more lulz and less woosh :(

Why do you expect us to get inside jokes from other forums?

And beastly is the ultimate earring of shame (aside from wearing suppa on the right).
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