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#1 May 25 2005 at 2:26 PM Rating: Good
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So, its become fairly common knowledge that at 60+, our WSes become 75% based on our STR factor.

I haven't seen a lot of discussion though on what pieces to use, or what the average Samurai's modifier is to get the ideal damage out of them, so I thought I'd ask what equipment you guys are subbing in.

Myself, when I WS, I have about a +35 STR mod, @65, including gear and sushi. I know I could improve that, because I'm still using a puissance, and I am keeping a sniper plugged in, just to avoid swapping out ALL my ACC for WSing. Think that's a bad idea? I haven't missed a gekko yet, but legend tells of it being semi inaccurate, at the rate of about Kagero. (If it was as inaccurate as Koki, nobody would use it)

I mean, I think I'm doing alright here, its a lottt of expensive gear just to get to 35, but I see a lot of posters shining their brassy +40-50 STR swap ins. There's either some people who ahem, are exaggerating, or EQ gets better the higher you get.

I'd like to see what you guys are swapping in, point for point of STR. I didn't want to turn the thread into a "RATE MY GEARZ!!!11!!" thread, so I didn't list my own.
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#2 May 25 2005 at 2:30 PM Rating: Decent
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hmm well if the ppl who say they have 40-50 STR+ better be atleast 70+
becuase i wont believe them cuz at 70 theres the Hachiman Gear which gives a total of 20-25+Str all together plus the rings and other accessories of them i can believe that
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#3 May 25 2005 at 3:35 PM Rating: Decent
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Starting from the top down.

Wyvern Helm +5 STR
Spike Necklace +3 STR
Minuet Earring +1 STR
Bushonmimi +2 STR
Pallas Bracelets +9 STR
Kirin's Osode +10 STR
Flame Ring +5 STR
Flame Ring +5 STR
Amemit Mantle+1 +2 STR
Warwolf Belt +5 STR
Shura Haidate +5 STR
Heroic Boots +2 STR

total +54 STR

i dont swap all of these depdending on where i'm fighting i change up the 6 area's that i swap out depending on the situation.

I'm currently working on the last few upgrades to my STR max.. but its getting really expensive now, to the point where if i dont kill the NM's that drop what i need, i probly wont ever get them.
#4 May 25 2005 at 3:51 PM Rating: Good
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+35 STR at lv65 sounds pretty optimized, so I wouldn't worry about it too much.

Assuming you have no +STR on your boots and you use a haubergeon, you can use the hachiman domaru and sune-ate at 70 for an extra +5 STR. Theres also the warwolf belt coming up at lv71 for another +5 STR. You'll then have a total of +45 str relatively cheap, so yes there will be more available to you later.

I'm not sure if you have any swaps for head, but I usually don't see people swapping anything in that slot at lv65. In case you don't already, you can swap a windhurstian hachimaki (+1 str).


Edited, Wed May 25 16:55:13 2005 by saphie
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#5 May 25 2005 at 4:56 PM Rating: Decent
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u can have a voyeger sallet... +3str +4dex
just an aded thought
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#6 May 25 2005 at 7:18 PM Rating: Default
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The SATA WS Equip I use is in my sig, I think that at 66 it is good enough, I do some pretty good dmg in exp pt's and on HNM's, usually 700-800+ withh 150-200+tp. The equip doesn't come very cheap sad to say tho....

Edit: With Sole Sushi/Chiefkabob it adds another +5, so its
67 base str +34 equip +5 Food= 106 str

Edited, Wed May 25 20:27:44 2005 by LordTlaloc
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#7 May 25 2005 at 7:32 PM Rating: Decent
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On second thought, just check out Kayoto's Master End-game Guide on equipment, it will list the different combinations of str and what items you should strive to get. It's what I use to get the most str possible and make those WS's really hurt.

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#8 May 26 2005 at 3:04 AM Rating: Decent
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I do some pretty good dmg in exp pt's and on HNM's


o_O

What HNM's have you fought at level 66?
#9 May 26 2005 at 7:01 AM Rating: Decent
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Roc/Serket/Simurgh my friend are not considered real HNMs >.>
#10 May 26 2005 at 12:18 PM Rating: Decent
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Honorific Notorious Monster

Any mob that gives you a title when you kill it.

Morbolger is one, you can solo him at 60.

However, granted, when most people speak of HNMs they're referring to the ones that take alliances to kill.

Edited, Thu May 26 13:23:41 2005 by Shanock
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#11 May 26 2005 at 3:31 PM Rating: Decent
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I just hit 70, and I have +40 with food for ws.

I'm a little reluctant to get the Hachiman Jinpachi seeing as it goes from anywhere between 1,200,000 to 1,500,000.. and quite honestly I'd rather just wait it out until Wyvern skull.

Also, if you're subbing THF, ACC gear doesnt matter as SA asures it will not miss (unless mob turns to you right before you do it) so feel free to swap out both snipers and life belt.

Here's my current gear, could be better.. but I average 600s and 900-1100 @300TP.

Optical Hat
Spike Necklace +3
Coral Earring
Minuet Earring +1
Enkelados' bracelets +7
Hachiman Domaru +8
Sun Ring +3
Sun Ring +3
Amemit Mantle+1 +2
Vanguard Belt +3
Myochin Haidate +3
Hachiman Sune-Ate +2

Total to 35, 40 with food.


What I'd really love to know is exactly how much +1STR does. I dont want to spend the 3.5M for Pallas bracelets if they're only going to add like 20 damage >_>;;


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#12 May 27 2005 at 3:38 AM Rating: Decent
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The STR+ modifier is only really going to shine with /thf. It's near impossible for me to hit for half as much as I do as /thf with /war on ws. For obvious reasons, you are losing alot of acc by adding str+ on /war. With /thf I have acc gear eq for tp gain, then about 5 eq swaps for ws. With acc gear on minus sushi, I still miss ws when catching too weak mobs on ferry, with /thf well, youre never going to miss if you have a good tank.
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#13 May 27 2005 at 9:59 AM Rating: Decent
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I currently use:

Ushikirimaru +2
Wyvern Helm +5
Spike Necklace +3
Bushinomimi +2
Triumph Earring +2
Kirin's Osode +10
Alkyoneus's Bracelets +11
Flame Ring +5
Flame Ring +5
Amemit Mantle+1 +2
Warwolf Belt +5
Shura Haidate +5
Marine M Boots +3

Total: +60str

Currently trying to get:
1. Shinsoku (+5str) (mainly for +5 show only) 0 for 13 on "Horns of War" as of lately for the GK to drop :\

2. 2x Vampire Earring (2x +4str at night) Haven't gotten around to camping him seriously yet.

3. Arco de Velocidad (+1str) I want this bow for the +10hp and the Regen effect but haven't had time to camp Cactrot. This will be the first NM I start camping religiously when I have time on my hands. I would use this bow full time over Shigeto unless going /rng. I've drooled for this bow since I started this game.

4. Wyvern Helm+1 (+6str) currently taking bonecraft to 100 just to make this helmet. Crafting around the clock daily has not given me time to do much camping of the other items. Once bone is 90, materials will be slower thus giving me a chance to camp the other NM's. This is my current goal.

5. Forager's Mantle (+3str) dropped recently but I gave it to an LS member in the PT that was only use Amemit Mantle. Now it will be a waiting game till it drops again for me.

These items, on top of my other ones, will put me at +70str. Who knows how long it will take though. I cannot justify Shura Haidate+1 nor is it easy to get it made. So it will never be on my list. This list is also realistic as opposed to dream profiles. +60str was my first dream when I started collecting this kind of gear. Now I wanna push for the +70 barrier which I don't think any SAM on my server is close to.



Edited, Fri May 27 11:04:26 2005 by hmmfairysamhmm
#14 May 27 2005 at 10:25 AM Rating: Decent
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Honorific Notorious Monster

Any mob that gives you a title when you kill it.

Morbolger is one, you can solo him at 60.

However, granted, when most people speak of HNMs they're referring to the ones that take alliances to kill.


I was unaware of Bubbly Bernie's HNM prowess o.O I'll have to be careful when I'm in south gusta from now on lol. Don't wanna get creamed by an HNM! XD
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#15 May 28 2005 at 1:47 AM Rating: Good
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I just hit 60 a few days ago. I realize now that my next WS are all based on STR. I'm just wondering at 61 is there anything else I could get to add STR? How's my gear lookin?

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#16 May 28 2005 at 6:30 AM Rating: Decent
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ok here is what im using as str gear without food. (please forgive all the miss spelled items, its late and i cant remember all the names)

weapon dyannwhatever lvl 59 katana with the +3 str.
Head swap in royal knight's bacent +1
Neck spike nelace +3
Minuet earring +1
Haubergeon +5
lvl 60 braclet thingy +9
victory ring +4
Sun ring +3
Ami mantle +1 +2str
Lvl 43 belt i think that is +3str and +5 attack
AF pants +3
marine male boots +3

So for me I am at +40 str for my ws. I do miss every once in a while but its not 2 bad as long as i am not at exactly at 100 tp for some reason when im at 100tp no more i almmost always miss my ws even with acc gear on.
Good luck

edit...
I eat sole sushi +1 btw

Edited, Sat May 28 07:30:56 2005 by Aydel
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