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#1 Apr 30 2006 at 11:44 PM Rating: Default
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I don't know about you but i got very bored end-game constantly boosting 12 times and chi blasting over and over. So anyway, a friend of mine made this while he was bored:

http://hosted.filefront.com/kranx

You will need the latest version of the .NET framework to run as well as azaril's windower but here's what it can do:

Displays your current boost number towards the bottom-right of the window

Boosts automatically every 15 seconds

Has an option to auto-send a tell to whoever you want asking for an invite at a specific boost as well as auto-accepting invites

Has an option to auto-send tells to other monks when you hit a specific boost if you are being cycled through party and need to space yourselves appart

Changes text color to blue at boost 9, and red when you are ready to blast

It is currently in beta so if you find any bugs let me know, I will be updating it soon when a final version is made but it works very nicely for me

Link to what the main program looks like : http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/4423/boostbot8ni.jpg

Link to how the boost numbers are displayed on-screen: http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/4233/boostbot29wn.jpg

I hope some of you find this useful ^^
#2 May 01 2006 at 12:26 AM Rating: Decent
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It cant be that hard to count to 12...
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Well, you can make a macro to boost 3 times, and manually count(not that hard), you can make a macro to press when your at 9 boosts or so which will automatically send a tell to whoever is inviting you, and you can also set your settings so you automatically accept any invite thrown your way. So basically that bot is fairly worthless.
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Boost Macro > Program.

/ja "Boost" <me>
/wait 15
/ja "Boost" <me>
/wait 15
/ja "Boost" <me>
/echo Re-Boost in 13. <--- 13 RL Seconds works fine.

This usually works out perfectly for me. And when I have 12 Boosts,
I have 1-3 seconds to use it unless I didn't Re-Boost in time.

:D

Edited, Mon May 1 01:45:59 2006 by Cyprias
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#5 May 01 2006 at 1:12 AM Rating: Default
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It's fine if you want to stick with macros, this isn't really for everyone. I just personally got very bored of hitting the same macros all the time for a yeard and a half. This also activates boost much faster than a macro and I end up with much longer to chi blast if a kited mob speeds out of range or i get a late invite etc.

I get shuffled around pts with up to 6 other monks sometimes so I find the second tell box useful for letting the next monk in the chain know he should start boosting.

Another feature should be added soon with customizable buttons to auto-switch between melee and chi-blast gear too (i know it's another thing you can do with multiple macros)

I know it's easy enough to do all of the things this program provides with game settings and good macros. This really wasn't made because chi blasting is too hard, just because it's repetitive, but I can see where you're coming from with macros being easy and effective enough.

So if there is anyone else out there like me, I hope it can help you out :D
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It actualy sounds like a pretty cool utility; but I remain in principle against the use of things like this. As cool as it is, I wouldn't personally use it (I still don't even have the windower).
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    #7 May 01 2006 at 1:39 AM Rating: Default
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    That's a fair enough view too. I am only against utilities that directly effect competition (claiming bots and speed hax etc).

    I would rate this on the same level as the TParty that comes with the windower
    #8 May 01 2006 at 2:34 AM Rating: Decent
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    I just have a whole macro pallette with Boost 1 through 10 on it and press 10 2 more times >.> Don't even have to keep count, just hold ctrl or R2 and press right after every boost and thats how you keep track of which boost you're on.

    If you're that bored you should try curing your LS mates while you boost. o.O
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    I would rate this on the same level as the TParty that comes with the windower


    Not really, TParty doesn't perform actions for you without your intervention.

    You could almost "play" without doing a damn thing with this program. Pathetic.
    #10 May 01 2006 at 7:49 AM Rating: Decent
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    This is just sad.

    Seriously, how difficult is it to keep your JA menu open and just watch the timer? Or have echoes in your boost macro(s), and manually type out other actions?

    If you need something to spice up your boosting, try putting that MP to use that you have (you DO have /WHM right?)

    Botting at Kirin...what will they think of next? /rolleyes
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    I've gotta say, in terms of work we prolly have one of the easiest jobs when it comes to Gods, and you are seriously trying to make it even easier?

    I applaud the effort but I feel it could've been spent working on something more meaningfull.

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    #12 May 01 2006 at 8:21 AM Rating: Default
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    Wow, cool program! I am inclined to agree that end game mnks have it pretty simple when it comes to being chi blast machines, but if this makes it simpler and doesn't affect anyone elses gameplay then I am all for it. Not that I would ever need it, as I don't plan on doing gods or hnms but still I think it is a good idea.

    As for everyone complaining..seriously, grow up. It's like chewing someone out for inventing an electric can opener. Saying "That's STUPID, I prefer to open my cans the old fashioned way!" Well good for you, if you don't like it feel free to not use it :P
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    #13 May 01 2006 at 8:33 AM Rating: Decent
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    Um, no.

    Can openers turned something from a very frustrating process into a very simple one. Further revisions of the can opener turned that simple process into a simpler, safer one.

    This is taking a completely simplistic process and making it fucktardedly lazy. It doesn't improve anything, except keep you from having to count.

    And we won't even mention what might happen if your bot were to fuck up. I can improvise when **** happens...can the bot do that?
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    I'm sorry but I have to agree thia this is rediculously lazy. I use macros and I have /echos on the end of each one to tell me when to start the next set.

    /ja "Boost" <me>
    /wait 15.1
    /ja "Boost" <me>
    /wait 15.1
    /echo Ready for Boost #3 and #4

    On one of my macros I simply add a /tell line in place of my second boost.

    /ja "Boost" <me>
    /wait 15.1
    /tell(Pty lead or BRD){Chi-Blast} {Ready!} (for songs or invite)
    /wait 1
    /echo Ready for Boost #9 and #10

    How hard is it to keep up with that?

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    Nor wrote:
    Um, no.

    Can openers turned something from a very frustrating process into a very simple one. Further revisions of the can opener turned that simple process into a simpler, safer one.

    This is taking a completely simplistic process and making it ************ lazy. It doesn't improve anything, except keep you from having to count.

    And we won't even mention what might happen if your bot were to **** up. I can improvise when sh*t happens...can the bot do that?


    I disagree, not that i think counting your boosts and using macros is a difficult task that needs simplifying. But, this does make it easier. Not having to count your boosts means it easier for you to pay attention to when someone gets bound, paralyzed, or whatever else happens that your minute mana pool might be able to help with while you sit there boosting.

    Personally I can't even use this because i'm on PS2, but I think the OP had nothing but good intentions at heart and this should be viewed as yet another tool at the disposal of mnks.
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    #16 May 01 2006 at 11:10 AM Rating: Default
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    Wait how is having a bot that boosts + chi blast for you "more fun" than doing it yourself. If your having some program do it for you than your doing even less which means your going to be more bored.

    Not to mention you can always buy some cheat au lait in npcs and refresh yourself while curing + erasing + paralyna + etc. other members and yourself.
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    Personally I can't even use this because i'm on PS2, but I think the OP had nothing but good intentions at heart and this should be viewed as yet another tool at the disposal of mnks.


    As the old saying goes...the road to Hell is paved with good intentions.

    Please, don't bot something as simple as Boosting for Chi Blast. If you want a counter that's great, but do your own Boosting, tells, etc. during the process.
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    #18 May 01 2006 at 11:45 AM Rating: Decent
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    You do know that SE bans accounts when they detect third party software, regardless of how harmless it may seem in the grand scheme of things.

    Lazy or not, useful or not, whatever comments about this anyone else has, either way I wouldn't want to lose my character and the years I put into FFXI over something like this.
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    #19 May 01 2006 at 12:03 PM Rating: Decent
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    I always found boosting hard due to the amount of lag fighting gods/hnm's while on a dial-up connection. Usually by the time your echo line pops up saying to fire the next macro you have lost some time and then you end up having your boost effect wear off. Quite embarrassing.....

    And then if you are watching your abilities menu to see when you can fire boost again without using a macro you will notice the lag screws you up there too. It will not be at zero and yet you can boost OR it will be at zero and you cant use boost.

    Now boosting is not hard but managing to get all 12 and fire it off before it wears on a BAD DIAL-UP CONNECTION with a screen full of people is PROBLEMATIC. Not impossible by any means but problematic. If this macro could get the boosts off on time regardless of your network connection that would be quite convenient. At the same time allowing you to do other things like cure your party/alliance members.

    Cheap, lazy, all those things, but still convenient.
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    A bot is a bot is a bot. Not matter how you look at it, you're still cheating the system. This is no better than Mr. Argus.
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    Some of you guys posting aren't even of the level where you do gods yet. Kirin, oh boy, how fun for monks. fighting him 3x means hours of sitting there, hitting a button every 15 seconds, doing absofreakinglutely nothing to him for 2:59 out of 3 minutes. I've gotten all I need from sky but I still go to help my linkshell. I think this is a good tool for people who dont enjoy the fast paced thrill of hitting control+1 every 15 seconds.
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    #22 May 01 2006 at 3:02 PM Rating: Decent
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    I don't do gods, but I do avatars regularly, and it's still the same principle. Also good practice.

    Botting chi blast is still pathetic.

    And to Vilnious, if you're having problems with lag doing it manually, the bot really won't fix that. It's still manipulating and working with your local client. In fact, the bot is more likely to succumb to the lag and fuck something up.
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    Um, no.

    Can openers turned something from a very frustrating process into a very simple one. Further revisions of the can opener turned that simple process into a simpler, safer one.

    This is taking a completely simplistic process and making it ************ lazy. It doesn't improve anything, except keep you from having to count.

    And we won't even mention what might happen if your bot were to **** up. I can improvise when sh*t happens...can the bot do that?


    Um, yes.

    You can think of boosting as opening a can. Doing it the most basic way would be to continuously select it from your JA menu every 15 seconds. Boring and frustrating for longer fights. Enter the macro, aka can opener. Now you can boost 3 times and see when your next is ready with the press of a button.

    Now here is this program, which does the same thing only even simpler. Instead of mindlessly pressing the same macro many times you are mindlessly pressing it once.

    This isn't some malicious bot designed to steal NMs or speedhack. You aren't gaining any advantage over everyone else. You still have to be there, you still have to blast the mob and you aren't getting any more boosts in. All this does is eliminate some monotonous button pushing.

    If you think it's lame and pathetic and lazy, that's fine I'm quite sure the OP really doesn't care. All he was trying to do was design a helpful program for monks. If you don't like it then ignore it. If you're not using it then it won't affect you in any way.

    However it is of course a third party program, which is against the ToS and yes you can be banned for it. It also has the potential to ***** up if the user isn't paying attention. But if someone is willing to take that risk and it is making life easier for them I say go for it.
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    #24 May 01 2006 at 6:04 PM Rating: Decent
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    Windower has the capability to do long macros built in.

    Put this macro into your scripts directory, replacing Binarycow with your name - Note: It may work with <me>

    Quote:

    input /echo 1 - 0:00
    input /ja "Boost" Binarycow;
    wait 15.8
    input /echo 2 - 0:15
    input /ja "Boost" Binarycow;
    wait 15.8
    input /echo 3 - 0:30
    input /ja "Boost" Binarycow;
    wait 15.8
    input /echo 4 - 0:45
    input /ja "Boost" Binarycow;
    wait 15.8
    input /echo 5 - 1:00
    input /ja "Boost" Binarycow;
    wait 15.8
    input /echo 6 - 1:15
    input /ja "Boost" Binarycow;
    wait 15.8
    input /echo 7 - 1:30
    input /t Bard Boost #7 complete.
    input /ja "Boost" Binarycow;
    wait 15.8
    input /echo 8 - 1:45
    input /ja "Boost" Binarycow;
    wait 15.8
    input /echo 9 - 2:00
    input /ja "Boost" Binarycow;
    input /echo Chi Almost ready! (3 more boost)
    wait 15.8
    input /t Binarycow 2 more Boost
    input /ja "Boost" Binarycow;
    input /echo Chi Almost ready! (2 more boost)
    wait 15.8
    input /t Bard MOVING IN TO NM! NO BALLADS!
    input /ja "Boost" Binarycow;
    input /echo Chi Almost ready! (1 more boost)
    wait 15.8
    input /echo 12 - 2:45
    input /ja "Boost" Binarycow;
    wait 2
    input /echo Chi Blast !
    input /echo Chi Blast !

    input /equip hands "Devotee's Mitts"
    wait 1
    input /ja "Chi Blast" <t>
    input /equip hands "Temple Gloves"
    //Done Waiting - 2:49

    wait 11
    input /echo Chi Blast Ready!

    This last /echo signifies that you should hit your boost macro again.


    Now, the execution of said script is easy. Bind the script to a key. Go into your windower console, and type [bind f12 exec 'chi.txt'] (substitute the name of the file where I have chi.txt.


    Now, you hit f12, and you are presented with a 12 boost chi - always 12 boosts, regardless of lag, or your ability to count. Just make sure you're within range of the NM by the time that 12'th boost comes around.


    Also ensure your temple gloves are equipped before you hit F12.




    There you have it guys - the secret to mega chi blasts.


    Good job on the thought tho, OP.


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    One more thing:


    Make this work over the internet (lag free), so I dont have to tell anyone...

    Make it /assist the main tank, lock targets, hold the forward key.

    Then make it auto repeat.

    Now make a script to automatically level MNK to 75. Level 6 MNK to 75 using this script. Give this to a BRD friend, who uses the BRD version of this program (which automatically sings songs). Now you have a 2 slot, 6 MNK 1 BRD team. And you only play ONE character! The rest are automatic!
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    #26 May 01 2006 at 7:23 PM Rating: Decent
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    Thank you BinaryCow, that's a good point using the windower macro utility. That's essentially all the program did as well, it sent the same commands to the windower.

    I just tried out the macro and it's just as effective :D

    Anyway, i've left up the original download for anyone that wants to try it out

    Sorry to anyone that was offended by the idea of an auto-boost program but it really is nothing more than a pre-made macro with a visual aid.

    Like i said in the OP, it was made by a friend completely without warning or asking, and i just wanted to share it with anyone that would find it useful
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