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why are you comparing the absolute best the AH has to offer thief to the standard for other jobs? you can make a modest (but still functionally good) gear set for roughly the same cost as any other job. just for giggles, lets see if i can make a respectible newbie build entirely from the ah for less than 5m.

tp set:
blau dolch ~2200k
misercorde +1 ~280k
bombcore ~40k
war beret ~20k
spectacles ~24k
spike earring ~25k
spike earring ~25k
scorpion harness ~160k
taresque mitts ~60k
woodsman ring ~150k
woodsman ring ~150k
ammement mantle +1 ~230k
life belt ~30k
dusk trousers ~450k
war boots ~20k

SA & TA swaps:
emperor hairpin ~500k
dragon harness ~100k
spike necklace ~10k
drone earring ~20k
drone earring ~20k
spinel ring ~45k
spinel ring ~45k
emerald ring ~30k
emerald ring ~30k
warwolf belt ~5k
dragon subligar ~40k
dragon leggings ~15k

total cost: ~4,724,000

what do you know, i even have some change. this is using prices from my server via ffxiah.com. there is alot of room for emprovement in this build yes, but it is also using gear completely from the AH and has several nice items that will be good for a long time. over half the total cost is in the weapons alone, i could have gone much more conservative here.

a person wearing this gear wont be topping any parsers, but they are far from what i would call gimp, and would be able to hold their own in most settings. once you start adding r/x gear the prices start getting cheaper as well as results start getting dramatically better, until you get to the point where the upgrades are expensive for small returns. this is something all jobs go through, not just thief.the thing is, you cannot directly compare the two. if there is a seperate tank in the party, while the thief might not do as much damage as the warrior, the thief allows the warrior to take hate less often, which in turn allows the warrior to do more damage. the same can be said about feint. if the warrior is tanking as well, they do less damage, making them what i defined earlier as a utility DD, ie they sacrifce some damage in order to contribute more to the party. if you look at the total of what a job offers rather than strictly its DD output, the difference isnt as clear as you make it out to be.

edit: hey look, my hypathetical newbie thief build cost the same as shacka's dragoon and dancer, and cheaper than his ninja and monk.


Edited, Jun 14th 2009 2:21pm by Buront

when i first started to lvl thief, i did it for the TH, and as my levels progressed i realized a couple things, my drop rates still blew, and every time i see the mobs HP bar drop half way i fill the cup

i have 3 jobs leveled DRG THF and SAM, i do my meriting on drg, keep my sam in my MH, and i do all the fun **** with THF

At first, My main goal for THF was for TH, I never planned in taking it pass 25(TH1 and Flee), let alone taking it pass 37. Then I started actually getting into the job, actually enjoying the job for more than just TH. Getting through Crawler's Nest, I began soloing T-VT Flies and started having a blast, while at the same time thinking, if i can solo T+ mobs, what could I solo at higher lvls. Ose was my first victim, tho I became the victim lol. at the time, not enough Eva, and Blaster along with it's additional para effect if it hits you was my major downfall, but I got him eventually... still no drop tho lol. Then I wanted to go for something stronger, something that drops an awesome weapon most THF's wish to own but refuses to camp. I eventually solo'd Kruetzet after 4 attempts with my forth being a successful kill and drop(long time ago).

TP
http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/profile.xml?184758

SA+WS(solo WS)
http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/profile.xml?164442

TA+WS
http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/profile.xml?197308

Solo Eva
http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/profile.xml?197309
Brutal in place of Ethereal depending on enemy.
Sirocco in place of Tatami depending on enemy.
Mirke Wardecors: Evasion+10 Ranged Accuracy+10

Still a growing THF but a THF I am proud to be. Though my initial intent was TH only, my motives have changed =)

This is a great post! Speaking as someone who was a pure auction house THF for a long time I can say without a doubt that most people I partied with thought I was better than most THFs they partied with. No my gear wasnt the best but I knew how to play the job for the most part. I actually used some of the jaridah stuff in my TP set when leveling and first hitting 75 til i finally got a rapp harness. and i used war beret til i got an ohat. i still use dragon gear cuz i dont have anything but hecca body etc. i mainhanded a harpe i think and offhand misericode til i got my blau and before that i think i was using behemoth +1 or some crap. whatever i could get on the AH that gave decent stats and i could afford i got.

i dont think anyone expects you to hit 75 and be awesomely geared but i mean if you show up to a merit party in a war beret, dex rings, a SH, AF hands, AF pants and a spike necklace you are just looking to get kicked and shouldnt be meriting. you should be farming so you could get rid of that atrocious gear

also if you already have nin, mnk, dnc and drg at 75 why arent you in a limbus shell, get homam and not even ever worry about dusk? i still have dusk trousers and ledelsens that i cant wait to dump.

Got half way down and saw the "PLD stands at maximum distance post." I too, had this problem today with a level 65 PLD. Makes my blood boil. Sure, it happens from time to time, but if you tell them, and they straight up ignore you.. It gets annoying. Upside is, if it begins to happen.. You can start to show off a little. PLDs that can't even stand in range to assist generally arnt the best PLDs knocking around. So SA~DE is nice for stealing hate on that ungreatful so and so. [/rant]

Edited, Jun 30th 2009 12:36am by Zyogi