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#1 Apr 20 2006 at 11:45 AM Rating: Sub-Default
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Bet if we just gave up and quit thf for another job, then maybe the other jobs not getting their drops would suddenly start to care about how this update affected us. One thing is for sure, im seriously considering selling off my gear and just focusing on obtaining TH4 since basically thats all thf is good for now.

Edited, Thu Apr 20 12:55:56 2006 by Wedo
#2 Apr 20 2006 at 12:04 PM Rating: Default
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One noob down, a few thousand more to go....
#3 Apr 20 2006 at 12:07 PM Rating: Excellent
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Fail. Don't feel bad though. There are way too many threads that fail right now.
Only way THF is being disgraced is by other whining THFs.
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#4 Apr 20 2006 at 12:26 PM Rating: Excellent
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Im one THF that will never quit!!!!!!

Has any one actually been in an xp pty since the update? I am still the fastest or as fast as anyone in the party gaining TP or Im still waiting on my timers.

We Thf's pride ourselves in getting the right Equipment setup to make us the best possible. And this update only challenges us a little bit more.

With all the whinning people are doing about this TP Change, is making other people aware of how bad Other THf's are saying we have become now. Wich is hurting our image by our own kind

Take this in stride find away to overcome it. It only makes you a better Player

Edited, Thu Apr 20 13:29:37 2006 by Taus
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#5 Apr 20 2006 at 12:34 PM Rating: Default
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call me a noob rate me down w/e i dont care, I got out tped by a dragoon yesterday in lufaise >.<, as for the "rep" of thf like we ever really had a decent one for exp pt anyway.
#6 Apr 20 2006 at 12:53 PM Rating: Decent
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yay the weak thf r leaving now there will be less THF lfp ^^
if you quite you where never a true THF only the true THF will be here arter this
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#7 Apr 20 2006 at 1:10 PM Rating: Default
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/rant on

as Nynja said a long time ago "THF is not a DD if you want to do damage level war or blm"

I dont really think ill quit, im just really upset atm and feel the need to vent/*****/whine/complain and add to the already out of hand similar post on alla. As for everyone going ONOZ we gonna nerf our invites like what happened to DRG. It is pretty much TOO LATE!!!! We all shot ourselves in the foot as soon as it happened, and i doubt anyone can say they didnt. We can try to salvage the situation grats if you or some other mathamatical genious can figure out a way to increase our pt invites for the general masses of thfs that dont apply to the few who have every single peice of end game equip for thf there is. Read the other forumns, everyone knows and its too late. Its not like a thf going LFG was going to get many invites anyway, you either had to make your own party or static with friends. And i can understand how you guys replied to the OP i was really just interested in seeing how people would reply. I just got my P. Harpe not too long ago and haven't been able to sale my harpe for 6 posts on the AH, thats about the only thing ill have to thank SE for since im sure ill be able to sell it now although im likely to sit on it for awhile since i might go P. Harpe/Harpe. As for trying to merit on thf bwhaha yea right, I think ill just get over the fact that "THF WILL NEVER BE DD" but the best solo/farmer in game and live with it until then ill just level another job.

/rant off
#8 Apr 20 2006 at 1:34 PM Rating: Decent
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Well just because Nynja said it.. doesn't mean we have to follow it. I'm a THF and I do DMG. I'm soloing EM and DC without bolts. Yea it's close calls but I wouldn't be **** without the dmg I do and the evasion I have.

For those THFs 65-67 Lesser Colibri are great evasion skill ups along with parry. Ya'll should gett on that.
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#9 Apr 20 2006 at 1:54 PM Rating: Good
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Pfft I busted my 65 THF outta retirement last night. Got an invite in 30 mins and served up some nice DMG on IT and IT+ Birds in Bibiki.

What TP change? Im still PWNing Shit like no ones business.

I am a THF, sometimes I may rock a flute or harp as a BRD but I know deep down what I really am in Vana Diel.
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#10 Apr 20 2006 at 2:34 PM Rating: Default
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One thing is for sure, im seriously considering selling off my gear and just focusing on obtaining TH4 since basically thats all thf is good for now.


please quit now... just quit... if you think thfs are th whores, GTFO, you should not be playing this class.

the nerf really isnt' that bad... seriously... just cuz we get ~4.5 tp per swing with /nin you make it sound thf is the most worthless job. you know what you do when changes are made? you addapt to it, you make changes urself to fit the new environment. gather the information on this board from the update and rethink your gear.
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#11 Apr 20 2006 at 3:01 PM Rating: Default
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Just let him quit, one less THF to fight the inner circle of LFG. That goes for everyone thinks THF sucks. Just quit, don't have to tell us, just do it.
#12 Apr 20 2006 at 3:01 PM Rating: Good
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the nerf really isnt' that bad... seriously... just cuz we get ~4.5 tp per swing with /nin you make it sound thf is the most worthless job. you know what you do when changes are made? you addapt to it, you make changes urself to fit the new environment. gather the information on this board from the update and rethink your gear.


yea i guess we should only lvl in lufaise meadows and god forbid us to step our foot on sky weapon's or Ul. range's spammage.
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#13 Apr 20 2006 at 3:02 PM Rating: Excellent
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i don't care what anyone says, i'll never quit thf.

in the thickets today, my 75pld/nin (with a shield, not DW) friend and i were exploring. we got some aggro from a tiger, and then he got aggro from another. i told him to hold off the other while i finished the first. well then i got another link. by the time i killed both the first tiger, and the third, he was still working on the second. mind you, both DC at 75.

nerf my ***. pld more godly from update? hardly.

the less whiney thfs out there the better.

the ppl who are quitting now will be the same ones first singing SE's graces when they offer a thf upgrade in one of the next few updates. calm yourself down and remember what thfs do best.
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#14 Apr 20 2006 at 3:20 PM Rating: Excellent
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Lets Quit

Bet if we just gave up and quit thf for another job, then maybe the other jobs not getting their drops would suddenly start to care about how this update affected us. One thing is for sure, im seriously considering selling off my gear and just focusing on obtaining TH4 since basically thats all thf is good for now.


I got a wonderful idea OP...Lets Not...and just go with the flow and adapt.
#15 Apr 20 2006 at 3:23 PM Rating: Default
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Don't try to convince him back. =/
Let him quit.. less competition = more invites = you win. XD
#16 Apr 20 2006 at 3:27 PM Rating: Good
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To the OP. . . people like you make me sick. The same people that cried and quit every game they ever played because it “cheated” or “wasn’t fair”. The fact that someone would be willing to quit over something so minor really shows their true colors and always shows us how dedicated of a THF they really are. Not to mention, you have had a whole 1-2 days to adapt to the changes, and all the changes havent even been implemented yet? What if we get steal TP or something to make up for this, will you come back and say how uber THF is and how much fun THF is?

Please, do us a favor, quit now. Why waste everyone’s time? Good luck out in the business world too. I’m sure everything will work out your way, rainbows will appear as you walk down the road, and it will rain skittles (wow, how happy!). This nerf means we have to attack 1 MORE ROUND to get 100tp. Yeah, if you are waiting on your TP that much, you arent using your timers right in the first place.

Good players learn to adapt to anything that is thrown at them. . . crappy players come here to cry on how SE hates them, or how we should petition that we aren’t good enough anymore. Suck it up, plain and simple.

Oh, and you have never played with a decent DRG if you think they get TP slowly. A good DRG will parse and TP up there with the best of them.
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#17 Apr 20 2006 at 3:35 PM Rating: Default
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yea i guess we should only lvl in lufaise meadows and god forbid us to step our foot on sky weapon's or Ul. range's spammage.


heh... with full trip attack merits and close to full dagger merits, I don't see how hard it is for you too gain 100% tp.
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#18 Apr 20 2006 at 3:41 PM Rating: Default
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call me a noob rate me down w/e i dont care, I got out tped by a dragoon yesterday in lufaise >.<, as for the "rep" of thf like we ever really had a decent one for exp pt anyway.


Why do you act so surprised that a Dragoon out-tped you?

I've never been beaten to 100 by a thf, ever.
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#19 Apr 20 2006 at 3:58 PM Rating: Excellent
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I've never been beaten to 100 by a thf, ever.


:D exagerate much? Sure, drg is quick and powerful...

But in your entire 75 levels, there's no way a thf never beat you in tp.

unless you're partying with the THFs that are starting the "petition" and "lets quit" threads....come to think of it...thats probably exactly what was happening o.O

Dont worry. once they all quit and become wars, you'll get a chance to be out TPed by the best o the best.
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#20 Apr 20 2006 at 4:52 PM Rating: Good
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you realize threads like this are the reason people are going to like thf less, right? Yes it sucks that we got nerfed, but let's not all just quit over it. How bout we actually take a look around us and realize that besides sam, we can still be the best tp-gaining job in the game.
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#21 Apr 20 2006 at 5:28 PM Rating: Good
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Wow... Just wow... I can't believe what I'm seeing anymore now...

It is no wonder that people don't like use Thieves... Most are whiny ******* (For those who aren't, thank you).

You live with what happens, I honestly haven't noticed much of a difference... Oh well, those that quit Thief because of this, I hope the door hits you in the ***.

I don't think I'll be back to these forums for a while. So take care you Thiefs that stay, and to those who keep whining... Shut up and get out. I don't care if I'm rated down or flamed.

So take care.

/em walks away shaking his head in disgust at the whiny Thiefs, picks up his daggers and goes kill stuff.
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#22 Apr 20 2006 at 5:50 PM Rating: Default
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wow...

in other news i dinged to 37 as thf
thf's are still good jobs we got shafted o well life goes on
but i gotta go lvl my subjobs now >.>
#23 Apr 20 2006 at 7:31 PM Rating: Good
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I'm very, very, very sad :( I think the update was supposed to nerf ninja, and ended up landing on us. I'm very sad, because i've been working for a long time on getting very speedy TP gear... update suddenly killed my gear setup completely, 20% slower gain from dual wield IS someting to not be happy about (4tp/hit instead of 5). I'm also sad that this means i'm going to have to replace both of my daggers with something else to become more efficient, and quite posibly have to spend another week saving for other equipment...

Yes, it's too bad THF/NIN got nerfed... and I'm quitting THF/NIN for exp parties asap...

Now i've been thinking about 5 interesting new jobs i'd like to try...
THF/WAR with heavy attack setup, corsair's knife and viking shield, see if that awful DoT can be turned around
THF/MNK with hand-to-hand weapons, doing sata+raging fists and even better evasion... and you get to counter too
THF/RNG and actually land those acid bolts more often, just because status bolts rocks... plus, nothing outpulls it
THF/SAM as i can actually meditate now... who knows, saws, otherdudews, taws might even be posible
THF/BLU wonder if all those badass monster moves stacks with sneak attack and trick attack? let's find out...

But anyways... alas, thf/nin... i knew ye well. RIP
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#24 Apr 20 2006 at 8:28 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm very, very, very sad :( I think the update was supposed to nerf ninja, and ended up landing on us. I'm very sad, because i've been working for a long time on getting very speedy TP gear... update suddenly killed my gear setup completely, 20% slower gain from dual wield IS someting to not be happy about (4tp/hit instead of 5)


Um, its 10%, not 20, and thats only if your delay after DWII is 120 per swing. Even a ninja w/ Unji/Unsho (or whatever that sick combo is) and full DW gear doesn't get 4 tp. 4.3 is the lowest I've heard of.

Quit whining and go do something to fix it. Thf isn't obsolete from this.
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#25 Apr 20 2006 at 8:39 PM Rating: Good
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Um, its 10%, not 20, and thats only if your delay after DWII is 120 per swing. Even a ninja w/ Unji/Unsho (or whatever that sick combo is) and full DW gear doesn't get 4 tp. 4.3 is the lowest I've heard of.


Both of my weaposn are < 180tp... i read somewhere DWII was 15% lower delay... Ergo, 15%tp gain i lost... i'm using hornetneedle too, adds a notch, it's >15 and <20, not being completely accurate i'm sorry... but unless DWII is 10% and lower, i'm not sure it's 10%...

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Quit whining and go do something to fix it.


I'm not whining, i'm mourning... i rather liked to play my job this way

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Thf isn't obsolete from this.


Nope, but i'd like to do more than help people farm for keys/tests/mustard
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#26 Apr 21 2006 at 1:10 AM Rating: Good
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THF/BLU wonder if all those badass monster moves stacks with sneak attack and trick attack? let's find out...


The AE ones, I don't know, but all the physical ones power and accuracy are dependent upon the mainhand weapon, and the single target ones do stack with SA and I assume TA as well. Also, Screwdriver and Smite of Rage are both skills blue mage can learn below 37.
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