No achievement, you can't heal.Follow

First of all, this is mostly a rant, of one of the most idiotic pugs I ever been part of.

One day, I wanted to start to pvp and so I went outside org. I dueled quite some peeps there, and got smashed. Having zero resilience and being in pve gear (naxx10, heroic) I didn't stand much of a chance. So I asked the guild, how should I start collecting pvp gear, and they directed me to wintergrasp and VoA.

I went to the next wintergrasp battle, and we won fairly quick. While trying to get into a group, I read up to the tactics of the bosses, as it was my first time ever there. Quickly got an invite, but when I said I didnt have the achievement yet, they kicked me. I think to myself, those guys were just asses.

A priest from my guild also happened to be there, so we decided to start or own group. About 10 mins later we got a group together and I told that I didnt have the achi yet. No-one said anything 'bout it. We went inside, with 2 healers, 2 tanks, rest dps, as usual (I think). We wipe at the first pull, due to an overpull of the pat. When we're back in, the mage starts yelling "HEALER DOESNT HAVE THE ACHIEVEMENT, KICK HIM, HE CAN'T HEAL", and everyone starts complaining and blaming me for the wipe. Me and my guildmate, being the leader of the group, and the only healers ignored them and we went on to Emalon. I read up on my tacts but yet I was nervous as it was my first time. I get to heal the Mt on emalon and the whole raid, while he heals the OT. (which at the time, sounded like a really hard job)

We pull and all goes fine. According to wowhead this was a DPS test, but due to us having 6 dps instead of 5 (only had 2 healers) I thought that we could make it easily. So I start doing the best healing I can, as I wanted to prove myself. But suddenly, BOOM, everyone is dead. One of the adds exploded (Overcharged ability, they should be dead by then) instantly killing everyone. At that moment, me and my guildie start checking dps. No-one touched 1900... The mage blaming me not having the achievement had 1400 dps. and he DIDN'T HAVE THE ACHIEVEMENT HIMSELF.

Now, I know pugs can be bad, but this kind of idiots (not everyone, some were friendly to me afterall, even telling me my healing was good even without having the achi) just annoy me like hell. From now on I'm going to get my pvp set grinding stonekeepers shards, exchanging them for honor, and then buying gladiator. Hell, I'm only doing VoA with guys from my guild from now on.

God, I remember when 1000 dps was king...

Anywho, don't worry about some scrub mage telling you whats up. Keep healing and learn the fights it's a game not the end of the world.

I have noticed that as well Quor.

Must be something about the class that just calls to such social miscreants.

Lol, the golden age of circle jerk priests...

I can't tell you how much I hated my other healer in 10 mans in BC. She had to circle jerk, I had to /faceroll lifebloom. She always outhealed me. I didn't really hate her, she was actually perrrtty sessy.

Days of ease I tell ya! Days of ease...

Heh I do tend to notice that the mage in our guild is always the first to die in the dance. He gets hit by a lot of firewalls too. Quor I love the tbagging thing I do it when people die too lol, but personally I prefer to do it in cat or travel form.

I apologize for the generalization. I personally like grouping with mages. I was still butthurt about that idiot.

i have old prejudices against mages, rogues, and hunters, from back in the day when those three classes comprised much more than the 33% of the population than they should have (they were really closer to 50% or so, with the other 6 classes making up the other 50%).

as such, my tendency is to be....shall we say....rather severe in my judgements of mages, hunters, and rogues. guilty until proven innocent if you will.

however, i will say, if you do find a good rogue, mage, or hunter, hold them close and dont let them go, because those players are the ones that redeem the rep for their entire class. but i still teabag those guys when they die (i teabag everyone really).

Dang it, my first main was a mage, but I can't help but agree with you guys. Hate to generalize, but I've run across quite a few mouthy mages. Funny that the two leading mages on this forum are some of the more level-headed posters. Anyhow, let's put our prejudices to the side for now.

Re: Emalon. It's only a dps race in the sense that the dps need to race their asses away from Em's nova and race their asses to the enraged add. dps greedy to get their dmg done to Emalon rather than proactively managing enraged adds and dodging novas are what wipe that raid. That and OT not picking up new adds. Honestly though as a Druid healer I find it more Nourish intensive than 10man Patchwerk.

All in all a cool fight to have added to an otherwise snoozer of a raid.

No you tell them you are capable of healing and to suck it if they don't like it. I saw some *** clown looking for 25 maly wanting the achievement and stats, I sent him my stats but not the achievement and told him I knew the fight, he said no and I said good luck and saw him in dal 20-30 min later asked him how it went and he said fail. I replied good thing you got achievements ehh? :)

As for mages I always start my pulls with a regrowth on the tank as they pull and one on the Mage if there is one. Not sure why but most mages I see want to cast their big hit right at the begining before a tank can grab much aggro. Sometimes I let them die and then mention perhaps they should start small until the tank can get threat up.

I agree with the OP, it often seems there is a lot of hipocrasy in this game. It was nice when there weren't so many elitists in northrend, but now - justified or not - they are surfacing. :(

Yeah seems like getting the Achievements is going the same as it was going for getting into Kara. It used to be, "Hay, he's not Kara geared, kick him". Never could figure out how to get Kara gear without being able to even go in there, lol.

Most pugs wouldn't even think of taking anyone unless you already had all the possible gear you could need from Kara. Always figured if I didn't need anything out of the place why would I be trying to get into a Pug in the first place.

Heck had one Kara Pug tell me they wouldnt take me because I wasn't ZulG Geared!

Well that's true mostly, gear always plays a part. Inviting 1-2 non achievement-guys to fill up is a great idea, and those guys will probably be grateful if you do. I'm gonna stop being so anti-achi now, it doesnt work anyway. I have mine, I have my raids. The others will have to do thesame, I guess. People will figure out themselves what to do.

LOL

Awesome. You win the morning.

Plus you said wicked, sweet.

While people can be carried, if you know the fight and are able to do Emalon then you will be able to get the achievement. It's simply a quick way to filter those who are unable to do the fight.

You are however more than welcome to try and make a pug consisting solely of people that don't have the achievement. Please come back and report your success ratio if you do.